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**G8trGr8t** · 03-13-2013, 09:54 PM

was recorded by the bartender that is going public tomorrow.

Part time bartender living on his own working gigs for a small catering agency. It seems that his biggest beef was that he didn't have health insurance and was living paycheck to paycheck and he viewed the rich folks at the gathering as part of the problem. His position in life wasn't fair, but of course it wasn't his fault. When do people start taking responsibility for the choices they make that put them in the positions they fimnd themselves?

Is it illegal to video and record a person in Florida in a private residence without their knowledge or consent?

geauxgator1 · 03-13-2013, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by G8trGr8t

was recorded by the bartender that is going public tomorrow.

Part time bartender living on his own working gigs for a small catering agency. It seems that his biggest beef was that he didn't have health insurance and was living paycheck to paycheck and he viewed the rich folks at the gathering as part of the problem. His position in life wasn't fair, but of course it wasn't his fault. When do people start taking responsibility for the choices they make that put them in the positions they fimnd themselves?

Is it illegal to video and record a person in Florida in a private residence without their knowledge or consent?

Probably can film in that situation. No reasonable expectation of privacy at a fund raising event.

108 · 03-13-2013, 10:00 PM

if someone secretly videotaped Obama making statements in a private function that caste aside half of the nation he was looking to be elected by, would you shoot the messenger?

my guess he would be a conservative hero, probably a host for Fox News by now

**jdrgator** · 03-13-2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by G8trGr8t

was recorded by the bartender that is going public tomorrow.

Part time bartender living on his own working gigs for a small catering agency. It seems that his biggest beef was that he didn't have health insurance and was living paycheck to paycheck and he viewed the rich folks at the gathering as part of the problem. His position in life wasn't fair, but of course it wasn't his fault. When do people start taking responsibility for the choices they make that put them in the positions they fimnd themselves?

Is it illegal to video and record a person in Florida in a private residence without their knowledge or consent?

He also saved an unconscious women from drowning when her car had gone into a canal. Supposedly, he jumped in, cut her belt, and pulled her out of the water to safety.

But your concern is about whether it's a crime to record a pol at at a fundraiser? Laughable.

HudsonGator · 03-13-2013, 10:12 PM

It happened to Obama in 2008

corpgator · 03-13-2013, 10:25 PM

It's not a crime to film someone who does not know it.

He apparently brought the camera because he wanted to tape himself with Romney. He had tended bar for a Clinton function before and Clinton had arrived early and stayed late to personally thank everyone who worked there.

Romney came late and didn't say a word to any of them.

Gatorrick22 · 03-14-2013, 12:47 AM

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if someone secretly videotaped Obama making statements in a private function that caste aside half of the nation he was looking to be elected by, would you shoot the messenger?

my guess he would be a conservative hero, probably a host for Fox News by now

BS! He'd be jailed for life by that murderer Holder.

**myamiG8R** · 03-14-2013, 03:04 AM

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Probably can film in that situation. No reasonable expectation of privacy at a fund raising event.

not sure what a "reasonable expectation of privacy" analysis has to do with this? that is 4th amendment concept restricting the gov't's ability to search and seize... but thank you for the thoughts...

**gatordowneast** · 03-14-2013, 06:13 AM

If I had hired the catering service who employed this guy, me thinks I would examine my rights...I do believe that there is a difference between a vendor taping something at a private event (like a wedding, fundraiser or other private affair) and an attendee. I would guess whoever hosted the fundraiser had an expectation of privacy.

I agree with the poster who said had this been Obama calling the producers, wealthy and high earners a pack of $hit bums (which he does daily in different terminology), then there would be hell to pay.

**g8orbill** · 03-14-2013, 06:18 AM

prez b.o. is covered in teflon

**gator10010** · 03-14-2013, 06:57 AM

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I agree with the poster who said had this been Obama calling the producers, wealthy and high earners a pack of $hit bums (which he does daily in different terminology), then there would be hell to pay.

Nothing that a quick drone strike couldn't take care of.

108 · 03-14-2013, 08:51 AM

Romney could have had the discipline not to say what he said given the stakes at hand, regardless of whether or not someone was secretly videotaping it

But he didn't, and the rest is history

the servant outsmarted the king

rivergator · 03-14-2013, 08:54 AM

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not sure what a "reasonable expectation of privacy" analysis has to do with this? that is 4th amendment concept restricting the gov't's ability to search and seize... but thank you for the thoughts...

don't understand, want to explain?

wgbgator · 03-14-2013, 09:02 AM

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don't understand, want to explain?

Wasnt too hard to follow. He was saying the 4th amendment has no bearing on one private citizen taping another one.

rivergator · 03-14-2013, 09:04 AM

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Wasnt too hard to follow. He was saying the 4th amendment has no bearing on one private citizen taping another one.

gotcha. thanks

PSGator66 · 03-14-2013, 10:16 AM

There was nothing wrong with what Romney said other than it is more like 53% of the country are depending on freebies. That guy who reported that should be proud that he is helping to take this nation down.

orangeblueorangeblue · 03-14-2013, 10:25 AM

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not sure what a "reasonable expectation of privacy" analysis has to do with this? that is 4th amendment concept restricting the gov't's ability to search and seize... but thank you for the thoughts...

What?

He was asking if it would be illegal to film someone in a private place - this typically comes down to the "reasonable expectation of privacy," as it does often when the topic of red light cameras come up.

The notion that there would be no "reasonable expectation of privacy" at a fundraiser is probably worth talking about more though.

wgbgator · 03-14-2013, 10:31 AM

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What?

He was asking if it would be illegal to film someone in a private place - this typically comes down to the "reasonable expectation of privacy," as it does often when the topic of red light cameras come up.

The notion that there would be no "reasonable expectation of privacy" at a fundraiser is probably worth talking about more though.

Is it illegal to film a sexual encounter behind closed doors without someone's express consent? I'm not sure how you could apply an additional layer of (expectation of) privacy within an already private setting.

orangeblueorangeblue · 03-14-2013, 10:38 AM

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Is it illegal to film a sexual encounter behind closed doors without someone's express consent? I'm not sure how you could apply an additional layer of (expectation of) privacy within an already private setting.

Well if you're having sex there's the reasonable expectation of privacy right there.

wgbgator · 03-14-2013, 10:40 AM

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Well if you're having sex there's the reasonable expectation of privacy right there.

Wouldnt you reasonably expect some "privacy" in any behind-closed doors private setting, whether its walking around naked, having sex, meeting with donors or having a one on one conversation?