LGBT Adults In DC And The USA

[Lawdog88]

Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

Anyway, I brought it up not only because it's juvenile and unnecessary, but it's also a violation of the forum's rules:

http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas...d.php?t=235839

I notice you've been lawyering it up lately elsewhere (reasonable expectation of privacy; etc.), and now seem to be quoting the TH Holy Grail of insults as authority for whatever advice you are now giving.

Sure you don't have latent lawyering tendencies in there somewhere ?

Anyway, I disagree with your interpretation of the rules. If the pro bono Rule Police's questioning of the allegedly offending post had found that the taboo words were employed, such that they accused a certain poster of being a F*****, a Q****, or even G*, that would clearly be a violation of the Rules.

However, one could be worried about whether G** men die 20 years earlier than S******* men for a number of reasons other than a purely personal concern: continued political debate; scientific study; verification of sources; and other reasons not necessarily personal. Thus, multiple inferences may be drawn from someone noticing another being concerned about a link to such a study.

And hey, there is nothing inherently wrong with posting a laughing (not unnaturally gay, mind you) emoticon in a post either. Unless the rules have been modified since I last looked.

See, being G** is really serious, not gay at all, and that would most certainly be insulting if anyone dare accuse anyone else of being G**.

Thus, to address your concerns, one could validly remark, "lighten up Francis." Or, would that be "Frank?"

[wargunfan]

Originally Posted by rivergator

Factcheck is your friend, too:



Link

Well of course opinions are more reliable than data.

http://www.amsciepub.com/doi/abs/10....0.96.3.693-697
"Summary

The age distribution of AIDS deaths of males who have sex with males [MSM] was estimated from obituaries in the Washington Blade, a gay newspaper. Statistics from the 2003 HIV/AIDS Surveillance Supplemental Report are highly congruent with deaths of MSM due to AIDS from these obituaries. Death due to AIDS in old age was most frequent for heterosexuals and least frequent for MSM who were drug abusers. Obituaries in the Washington Blade are thus consistent with and may be representative of deaths due to AIDS among MSM. The latest CDC report tends to strengthen the overall finding based upon obituaries: that the lifespan of MSM is shortened two to three decades by AIDS and, possibly, other causes."

Cited by

Morten Frisch, Henrik Brønnum-Hansen. (2009) Mortality Among Men and Women in Same-Sex Marriage: A National Cohort Study of 8333 Danes. American Journal of Public Health 99:1, 133-137
Online publication date: 1-Jan-2009.
CrossRef


Read More: http://www.amsciepub.com/doi/abs/10....0.96.3.693-697

Why don't you go ahead and fact check the CDC.

[HALLGATOR]

Originally Posted by Lawdog88

Hall, that ripped ! I am still howling.

I stood down the street telling her if she would put down the iron we could go at it, sort of mano a mano, which she refused to do and that may have worked out better for me anyway. As I said she had some size on her and it wasn't all fat.

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by wargunfan

Well of course opinions are more reliable than data.

Try that again. The study you linked to was for the years 1987 to 1992, when the AIDS epidemic was its height. The HIV death rate was nine times higher then than it is now. That's data.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Originally Posted by Lawdog88

Anyway, I disagree with your interpretation of the rules. If the pro bono Rule Police's questioning of the allegedly offending post had found that the taboo words were employed, such that they accused a certain poster of being a F*****, a Q****, or even G*, that would clearly be a violation of the Rules.

You're right, if we're going to "play by the words," you didn't violate this:

Calling someone a racist, gay

Just as it wouldn't be a violation if I said that I believe your tacit "rejection" of and defensiveness toward homosexuality indicated that you might be ... light in your loafers, so to speak. All in good fun, right?

Thus, to address your concerns, one could validly remark, "lighten up Francis." Or, would that be "Frank?"

I'm not taking it too seriously, I just find it plummets the level of discourse when we resort to de facto middle school insults. Seems wholly unnecessary.

[wargunfan]

Originally Posted by rivergator

Try that again. The study you linked to was for the years 1987 to 1992, when the AIDS epidemic was its height. The HIV death rate was nine times higher then than it is now. That's data.

I just gave you data from the CDC. Go argue with them.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Aaaaannnd away we go!

[wargunfan]

Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

Aaaaannnd away we go!

No. I don't do the River dance. There is a principle about those who have contempt for the question not being willing to accept the answer.

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by wargunfan

Well of course opinions are more reliable than data.

http://www.amsciepub.com/doi/abs/10....0.96.3.693-697
"Summary

The age distribution of AIDS deaths of males who have sex with males [MSM] was estimated from obituaries in the Washington Blade, a gay newspaper. Statistics from the 2003 HIV/AIDS Surveillance Supplemental Report are highly congruent with deaths of MSM due to AIDS from these obituaries. Death due to AIDS in old age was most frequent for heterosexuals and least frequent for MSM who were drug abusers. Obituaries in the Washington Blade are thus consistent with and may be representative of deaths due to AIDS among MSM. The latest CDC report tends to strengthen the overall finding based upon obituaries: that the lifespan of MSM is shortened two to three decades by AIDS and, possibly, other causes."

Cited by

Morten Frisch, Henrik Brønnum-Hansen. (2009) Mortality Among Men and Women in Same-Sex Marriage: A National Cohort Study of 8333 Danes. American Journal of Public Health 99:1, 133-137
Online publication date: 1-Jan-2009.
CrossRef


Read More: http://www.amsciepub.com/doi/abs/10....0.96.3.693-697

Why don't you go ahead and fact check the CDC.

Any idea how recent that CDC study is?

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Well the "skin in the game" comment is gone now

[Lawdog88]

Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

Well the "skin in the game" comment is gone now

So popular phrases, sports jargon, misspellings, and mother goose rhymes are on your pro bono prohibited list also ?

Sieg . . . . whatever, Bob.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Hey law, quit looking at me that way ... I'm a married man.

[Lawdog88]

Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

You're right, if we're going to "play by the words," you didn't violate this:

Just as it wouldn't be a violation if I said that I believe your tacit "rejection" of and defensiveness toward homosexuality indicated that you might be ... light in your loafers, so to speak. All in good fun, right?

[Actually, that would be an insult, capable of only one, direct interpretation; that would differ from the instant circumstance currently under review, where multiple inferences may be drawn from a statement.]

I'm not taking it too seriously, I just find it plummets the level of discourse when we resort to de facto middle school insults. Seems wholly unnecessary.

Well, then . . . lighten up . . . Francis.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Agreed, lighten up. It's all fair game.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Also I was just saying that you were probably in good physical shape. Not sure how you could have confused that.

[Lawdog88]

Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

Also I was just saying that you were probably in good physical shape. Not sure how you could have confused that.

I'm not worried.

[wargunfan]

Originally Posted by rivergator

Any idea how recent that CDC study is?

I believe it is 2003. You may also find this article interesting.


"Paul Denning from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reviewed data that demonstrates a very disturbing trend in men who have sex with men (MSM) in the United States. There are over 500,000 MSM (homosexual men) with HIV infection reported through June 1999 - more than any other risk group. HIV prevalence rates among cohorts of MSM in San Francisco and Seattle approach 10%, and there is abundant evidence that after years of declining incidence of STDs in MSM, rates have been increasing in many cities over the past 4 years. Rates of rectal gonorrhea and chlamydia have essentially doubled in Seattle, Chicago, Portland and Washington, DC. Is the stage being set for a resurgence of HIV transmission in MSM? The preponderance of evidence says yes. The increase in STDs reflects high-risk behavior, and this is also associated with increased HIV transmission rates. It is likely that increases in HIV prevalence in those (gay men) populations will be seen.
HIV sentinel surveillance and reinvigorated prevention interventions among MSM are urgently needed. Source: Denning PH, " Is the stage being set for a resurgence in the HIV epidemic among men who have sex with men? " Programs and abstracts of the 7th Conference on Retroviruses and Opportunistic Infections, January 30th - February 2, 2000; San Francisco, Calf., Abstract 30S."

The homosexual demographic is not a healthy population and all the PC propaganda in the world won't change that.

[wargunfan]

Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

Well the "skin in the game" comment is gone now

"Skin" refers to money. Ain't PC a wonderful thing?

[HudsonGator]

Originally Posted by HALLGATOR

Actually I have, or at least she would have attacked me if I hadn't been faster of foot than she was. The "she" in question weighed in at a good 250, was almost as tall as me at a little over 6', and had what appeared to be somewhere around a 5 iron in her hand when she came out of the house. It was dark and I didn't stop to take a closer look. She didn't catch me but she gave my poor old American Motors car a whack or two and it hadn't done a thing. Seems she took a dislike to me being with her girlfriend who was obviously bi-sexual.

That's a good story, I'd like to hear more.

[HudsonGator]

Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

Hey law, quit looking at me that way ... I'm a married man.

Well, in today's day and age, depending on what State you live in, being "married" doesn't really mean much in this regard.