Paul Ryan's budget plan from the surface should be seriously considered

[diehardgator1]

I thought we just had a tax increase in January ?

[HudsonGator]

Originally Posted by diehardgator1

I thought we just had a tax increase in January ?

"We" only includes you if you make more than $400,000 per year, in which case, congratulations for doing so well.

You are living the American dream.

[MastaG8r]

Originally Posted by rivergator

This is the plan that includes that Medicare cuts that Ryan blasted Obama so much for?

I haven't studied the details yet, but I would be surprised if it doesn't follow previous GOP plans that lower taxes for the wealthy and corporations while raising them for the middle class.

There's a shocker.

Which was the GOP plan that raised taxes for the middle class? Did you study the details of that one? Do tell.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by HudsonGator

"We" only includes you if you make more than $400,000 per year, in which case, congratulations for doing so well.

You are living the American dream.

You're wrong, every working American had a tax increase

[HudsonGator]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

You're wrong, every working American had a tax increase

Technically that wasn't an increase, rather a temporary payroll tax holiday expired.

[surfn1080]

Originally Posted by HudsonGator

Technically that wasn't an increase, rather a temporary payroll tax holiday expired.

Soooo an increase?? Call it what you want my payroll tax increased this year ...

[PSGator66]

I don't make $400 k and my taxes went up so what are your trying to feed us?

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by Hudson Gator

Technically that wasn't an increase, rather a temporary payroll tax holiday expired.

Well your cohorts were sure calling it a tax cut a when it was made. Can't have it both ways.

[jdrgator]

Originally Posted by gatordowneast

White House just put out a statement that the math doesn't add up.

Naturally the math doesn't add up. Just like the country was going to hell if Sequester passed. If it doesn't have tax increases and doesn't allow Obama and thugs to spend more money on nonsense green energy, unions or other foolishness and if it balances the frickin budget, Obama and his party are not for it. Naturally. No news here.

The news would be if the Senate would even draft a budget sometime in the first four years. Wait...I guess we are in year 5.

You got that right...naturally the math doesn't add up. We went through this before with Ryan.

[gatordowneast]

Originally Posted by jdrgator

You got that right...naturally the math doesn't add up. We went through this before with Ryan.

FYI- Paul Ryan has forgotton more about our country's finances than the slacker Obama will ever care to be briefed on. Ryan's #s do add up. Obama just doesn't like the #s and priorities, but he will not propose any of his own.

#1- He's too lazy to do the hard work of prioritizing. #2- His goal of providing a government "safety net" to anyone who can breathe and vote demo at the expense of the rest of us with too much pride and who pay the tab would be in jeopardy.

[jdrgator]

FYI, the smile was b/c I was joking, but your hero worship is humorous.

[gatordowneast]

Originally Posted by jdrgator

FYI, the smile was b/c I was joking, but your hero worship is humorous.

The defense of "anything Obama" is tiring...and quite costly.

[g8orbill]

Originally Posted by 108

at what point are republicans going to stop with this silly notion that the economy will grow if you reduce taxes on the top tier and corporations?

that doesn't create demand, but just further acerbates income inequality, and in the long run reduces demand

at what point are you going to realize that we do not have a revenue issue we have a spending issue

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by g8orbill

at what point are you going to realize that we do not have a revenue issue we have a spending issue

Don't hold your breath, it's all about feeding the beast

[g8trjax]

Dems should encourage a vote on this budget. Lets see where everyone really stands.

[HudsonGator]

Originally Posted by g8orbill

at what point are you going to realize that we do not have a revenue issue we have a spending issue

I wish people like you would actually educate yourself on the budget rather than regurgitating what you heard on Fox News.

If we have a spending problem as you say, tell me, what specifically would you have cut in 2012 to eliminate the $1.3 trillion deficit?

[gatordowneast]

Originally Posted by HudsonGator

I wish people like you would actually educate yourself on the budget rather than regurgitating what you heard on Fox News.

If we have a spending problem as you say, tell me, what specifically would you have cut in 2012 to eliminate the $1.3 trillion deficit?

Let me answer that...no one is proposing wiping out the deficit in one year. It's a 10 year fix to get to balance.

Now with the Senate proposal, spending goes up 68% over 10 years. Huh?

[g8orbill]

Originally Posted by HudsonGator

I wish people like you would actually educate yourself on the budget rather than regurgitating what you heard on Fox News.

If we have a spending problem as you say, tell me, what specifically would you have cut in 2012 to eliminate the $1.3 trillion deficit?

The mere fact that you think someone to be uneducated because they think spending is the issue speaks volumes to your education-I understand all to well how budgets work and also how our guvment uses base line budgeting- were you even aware of baseline budgeting or how it works

As far as 2012 goes my first move would have been to totally stop baseline budgeting- then I would have instituted an across the board 10% cut on ALL spending- I would also require every department in our guvment to justify all positions and ALL spending-( every includes the prez)

[HudsonGator]

Originally Posted by g8orbill

The mere fact that you think someone to be uneducated because they think spending is the issue speaks volumes to your education-I understand all to well how budgets work and also how our guvment uses vase line budgeting- were you even aware of baseline budgeting or how it works

As far as 2012 goes my first move would have been to totally stop vaseline budgeting- then I would have instituted an across the board 10% cut on ALL spending- I would also require every department in our guvment to justify all positions and ALL spending-( every includes the prez)

You didn't answer the question.

Whether it is $1.3 trillion in 2012, or a trillion or two per year over the next ten years, you still have to come up with a trillion dollars or so in cuts if, as you say, we only have a spending problem.

What would you cut?

[g8orbill]

sure seems like an answer to me

my first move would have been to totally stop baseline budgeting

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I would have instituted an across the board 10% cut on ALL spending

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