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Old 03-13-2013, 08:02 PM   #141
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Old 03-13-2013, 09:50 PM   #142
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if you are a liberal, are you forced to support government mandates like these? More government is better????
Most liberals I know like the idea of a healthier us, but don't like the ban.

Arguing 1) it's ineffective an 2) it's silly
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Most liberals I know like the idea of a healthier us, but don't like the ban.

Arguing 1) it's ineffective an 2) it's silly
I'm proud of the liberals on this count.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:27 PM   #145
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Be warned tho, they are florida liberals so that could be middle on a US spectrum
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:46 PM   #146
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Most liberals I know like the idea of a healthier us, but don't like the ban.

Arguing 1) it's ineffective an 2) it's silly
Most conservatives like the idea of healthier us too, but we believe the government shouldn't be making silly overbearing ordinances and lording over us like parents. It's still should be a person's right to make their own decisions in these areas, be they good for us or not. If you want to be stupid then be my guest. I personally don't drink soft drinks of any size, and I don't smoke, and don't eat red meat. etc.,but if you want to, go ahead. I may want to advise you against certain activities, but i'm not going to bring the force of government down on you if you chose otherwise.
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Most conservatives like the idea of healthier us too, but we believe the government shouldn't be making silly overbearing ordinances and lording over us like parents. It's still should be a person's right to make their own decisions in these areas, be they good for us or not. If you want to be stupid then be my guest. I personally don't drink soft drinks of any size, and I don't smoke, and don't eat red meat. etc.,but if you want to, go ahead. I may want to advise you against certain activities, but i'm not going to bring the force of government down on you if you chose otherwise.
I think most people would agree to this, it's only the crazy left that wants to mandate this and that and force people to whatever
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I think most people would agree to this, it's only the crazy left that wants to mandate this and that and force people to whatever
It's in their DNA.
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It's in their something. I just wish all far extremes would go away
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I'm not following. You obviously have a problem with the law in the first place. I do too. But are you now are calling it judicial activism because the judge overturned the law?
.......no problem with the law, just the shysters that end up being judges.

Judges that try and dictate their own "social justice" like the judge that overruled the California voters on a state-wide vote on Prop 8? The judge can say, it's this, or that, but in the end it's his/her own social justice that made them rule the way they did.

And to answer you on your definition of activism - not all court cases have a precedent by which to go by, so some judges add their own personal beliefs into their decisions.

Straight people have rights too.
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.......no problem with the law, just the shysters that end up being judges.

Judges that try and dictate their own "social justice" like the judge that overruled the California voters on a state-wide vote on Prop 8? The judge can say, it's this, or that, but in the end it's his/her own social justice that made them rule the way they did.

And to answer you on your definition of activism - not all court cases have a precedent by which to go by, so some judges add their own personal beliefs into their decisions.

Straight people have rights too.

I would suggest that activist judges try and write or create law, when they are only supposed to interpret or apply the law.
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I would suggest that activist judges try and write or create law, when they are only supposed to interpret or apply the law.
This can be injected into my partial definition.
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