03-11-2013, 03:32 PM
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Judge strikes down NYC's sugary drinks ban
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03-11-2013, 03:34 PM
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Nurse Bloomberg gets spanked.
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03-11-2013, 03:35 PM
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Still never understood why it would be okay to buy 40oz of Schlitz but not Cherry Coke.
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03-11-2013, 03:37 PM
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I wonder if people that get goiter in the City will start to sue him for that salt ban too?
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03-11-2013, 03:52 PM
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If you pause, you can hear the whimper of statist utopian butthurt.
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03-11-2013, 03:54 PM
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Are statists commies?
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03-11-2013, 03:56 PM
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bloomberg will not be happy with this judge---he may order him fired.
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03-11-2013, 03:59 PM
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So, a bunch of technocrats undemocratically decided what was good for people, and some more elites stopped them from doing it, undemocratically.
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03-11-2013, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamper
bloomberg will not be happy with this judge---he may order him fired.
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Why - he'd just get slapped back down by the SCOTUS.
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03-11-2013, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Gatorrick22
Are statists commies?
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By and large, as the state is really the only means to implement communism. It takes force, since it runs contrary to human nature and doesn't happen in the proverbial wild among stranger or communities with disparate interests.
Either way, it is total hubris that Bloomberg ever thought himself entitled or qualified to portion New Yorkers' soda for them, he deserved this embarrassment.
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03-11-2013, 04:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MichiGator2002
By and large, as the state is really the only means to implement communism. It takes force, since it runs contrary to human nature and doesn't happen in the proverbial wild among stranger or communities with disparate interests.
Either way, it is total hubris that Bloomberg ever thought himself entitled or qualified to portion New Yorkers' soda for them, he deserved this embarrassment.
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I see - then you're too kind in your description of the liberal fallacies from Bloomberg and his cronies.
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03-11-2013, 04:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MichiGator2002
By and large, as the state is really the only means to implement communism. It takes force, since it runs contrary to human nature and doesn't happen in the proverbial wild among stranger or communities with disparate interests.
Either way, it is total hubris that Bloomberg ever thought himself entitled or qualified to portion New Yorkers' soda for them, he deserved this embarrassment.
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Well, the state is the only means to implement capitalism too. So "statism" is the emptiest of charges. Bloomberg may be a statist, but judges who strike down these laws are just the flip side of the same "statist" coin. Either way, the agency of the citizen has been taken, we are neither free to make choices, and we must be protected by the judiciary from the mistakes of our leaders, rather than do our own housecleaning.
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03-11-2013, 04:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wgbgator
Well, the state is the only means to implement capitalism too. So "statism" is the emptiest of charges. Bloomberg may be a statist, but judges who strike down these laws are just the flip side of the same "statist" coin. Either way, the agency of the citizen has been taken, we are neither free to make choices, and we must be protected by the judiciary from the mistakes of our leaders, rather than do our own housecleaning.
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Wrong - government only implements regulations....good ones and bad ones. Capitalism works best with the least government intervention.
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03-11-2013, 04:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gatorrick22
Wrong - government only implements regulations....good ones and bad ones. Capitalism works best with the least government intervention.
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By least, you still mean some, right? 
BTW, the government also enforces and protects property rights (not just regulations), something pretty essential to capitalism.
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03-11-2013, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Gatorrick22
Wrong - government only implements regulations....good ones and bad ones. Capitalism works best with the least government intervention.
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^^^ this
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03-11-2013, 06:03 PM
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I guess Bloomberg didn't have enough money for the judge. Whudda thunk it?
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03-11-2013, 06:11 PM
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Sounds like a good ruling to me.
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03-11-2013, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HALLGATOR
Sounds like a good ruling to me.
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+1
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03-11-2013, 06:15 PM
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Great news! Not that I drink the stuff but let freedom ring baby.
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03-11-2013, 06:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wgbgator
Well, the state is the only means to implement capitalism too. So "statism" is the emptiest of charges. Bloomberg may be a statist, but judges who strike down these laws are just the flip side of the same "statist" coin. Either way, the agency of the citizen has been taken, we are neither free to make choices, and we must be protected by the judiciary from the mistakes of our leaders, rather than do our own housecleaning.
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Since when do you need the state to implement capitalism?
Since when does capitalism deprive individual agency?
Are you put out that Bloomberg got it shoved up cranial storage unit on this? It doesn't take an activist judge to realize that the government has no legitimate power to regulate our food and drink portions. None. Period. Not subject to rational debate amongst adults in a free society.
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