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fljim · 03-09-2013, 06:25 PM

It has discussed many times this year but I will ask the question one more time........the last person we want throwing up the last shot in any game is KB but once again, he clanged up a 12-14 ft shot instead of driving into the lane. Actually I have two questions, why Boynton and why is Mike R. on the bench. If you are going to tell me he made another bad pass, take another look at the game so did KB, so did CP, etc. It was the sloppest game I have seen all year from the guys.
If there ever is a game that had little or no meaning, I guess this game could fall under this heading but the real issue is that this team lacks the killer instinct at both the end of the 1st half and at the end of the game.
There is not question Coach C had his 18-19 year old kids outplaying our team that is comprised of 19,20 and 21 year old veterns.

**dawny** · 03-09-2013, 06:39 PM

Does anyone have a clock on how much time we dribble and pass in a game,even with 2.5 minutes left we just come up the court like we are the best in the Country,this is why we cannot get good recruits, players like to go to the basket,but it seems Players will get benched if not dribbling and passing first, Coaching lost a lot this season.

JaxLizard · 03-09-2013, 06:57 PM

Agreed with post above that a team comprised of freshman and sophmores thoroughly outplayed a group of seasoned juniors and seniors. I really do not have a good feeling about the SEC Tourney Or the big dance. We will lose either Friday or definitely Saturdays game. I don't see us making it past the second round in the NCAA's. What a huge disappointment!

gottapanda · 03-09-2013, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gatordavisl

Solid contribution: Eloquent, evocative, substantiated with evidence.

Why, thank you. To put it less succinctly, every single time we lose, our "fans" trip over themselves to get on here and write about how "we choked" and "we got embarrassed." No, "we" didn't. We didn't do anything. Get over yourselves. Like the rest of you on this thread, I watched the game sitting on my butt. And like the rest of you, I don't pour hours of hard work every day into making this team better. I don't get out in front of 20,000 hostile fans and bust my ass to try to bring home a win. I don't sustain multiple concussions or spend months rehabbing an injury so that some red-faced fat old man can breathlessly type out how he saw this coming months ago. Or how "we" (and when things go wrong, we somehow always means "they") are a team full of chokers who don't deserve to do well in the tournament. Never mind the fact that close road losses don't mean anything special. There are threads on this board about this right now.

So, again, get over yourselves. They don't owe us anything. Not Billy, and certainly not the players. We are just fans. It would do some a lot of good to remember that.

By the way, "substantiated by evidence" is redundant.

Hill_Raiser · 03-09-2013, 07:17 PM

Not sure why people are upset? This is a typical Billy D team. We have never been able to close a tight game. I love the guy and fully appreciate what he has done, but if it comes down to the last 2 possessions, we ain't winning.

Don't blame any of the players . Names change, result is the same.

For the clowns saying "meaningless game" or "didn't have to have it," get a clue. If playing UK at Rupp doesn't get you up, stick to IM games. UK has owned SEC b ball forever, and you have to beat them every available opportunity. Every stinking one. Losing to a Gillespe-esque team is depressing.

gatordavisl · 03-09-2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gottapanda

Why, thank you. To put it less succinctly, every single time we lose, our "fans" trip over themselves to get on here and write about how "we choked" and "we got embarrassed." No, "we" didn't. We didn't do anything. Get over yourselves. Like the rest of you on this thread, I watched the game sitting on my butt. And like the rest of you, I don't pour hours of hard work every day into making this team better. I don't get out in front of 20,000 hostile fans and bust my ass to try to bring home a win. I don't sustain multiple concussions or spend months rehabbing an injury so that some red-faced fat old man can breathlessly type out how he saw this coming months ago. Or how "we" (and when things go wrong, we somehow always means "they") are a team full of chokers who don't deserve to do well in the tournament. Never mind the fact that close road losses don't mean anything special. There are threads on this board about this right now.

So, again, get over yourselves. They don't owe us anything. Not Billy, and certainly not the players. We are just fans. It would do some a lot of good to remember that.

By the way, "substantiated by evidence" is redundant.

MUCH better.

And yes, you are correct that my post included a redundancy.

gatorbogey · 03-09-2013, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mac4lyfe

I can bet you that most of these guys absolutely hate suck up students telling them "you'll get them next time", "good game", "Ya'll played real well". yada, yada. They don't want to hear that crap and really don't need smoke blown up their butts.

equally probable that you get a fist in your face if you get into a player's grill and say things like "gawd, you guys choked, you guys suck, etc" right? i don't think any player wants either of those extremes. they don't want the sugar coating, they don't want the lamblasting - they do want the realistic appraisal. as a player, if they want to call it a choke, go ahead, but i don't think they we should be throwing that label around. as it does impact their mental state. i was fine when i competed admitting my choke jobs but if someone else berated me they might find a nine iron in their temple. fortunately there were no internet message boards back then and i seriously doubt people would say what they post here in person.

but again, let me reinterate, constructive criticism is something we can all use. BD will be providing that. he'll be evaluating his own coaching decisions too in this game.

malscott · 03-09-2013, 07:30 PM

It seems like everyone is waiting for someone to step it up and save the day. The problem is, everyone is still waiting...championship teams commonly have the ability to collect themselves when faced with adversity, leadership ensues, the rally kicks in...it would appear the talent is there, the mental maturity isn't. BUT...they can make us all very wrong when the tournament comes along. It appears it's time to break out the ole Billy Baroule. Oh, Billy, Billy, Billy,....come on Gators, get up and GO!!!!!!!

JaxLizard · 03-09-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gottapanda

Why, thank you. To put it less succinctly, every single time we lose, our "fans" trip over themselves to get on here and write about how "we choked" and "we got embarrassed." No, "we" didn't. We didn't do anything. Get over yourselves. Like the rest of you on this thread, I watched the game sitting on my butt. And like the rest of you, I don't pour hours of hard work every day into making this team better. I don't get out in front of 20,000 hostile fans and bust my ass to try to bring home a win. I don't sustain multiple concussions or spend months rehabbing an injury so that some red-faced fat old man can breathlessly type out how he saw this coming months ago. Or how "we" (and when things go wrong, we somehow always means "they") are a team full of chokers who don't deserve to do well in the tournament. Never mind the fact that close road losses don't mean anything special. There are threads on this board about this right now.

So, again, get over yourselves. They don't owe us anything. Not Billy, and certainly not the players. We are just fans. It would do some a lot of good to remember that.

By the way, "substantiated by evidence" is redundant.

Disagree with the "They don't owe us anything" quote. As a former alumni who donates to the university and attends my fair share of games as many of us do here, they do us something since we financially support this team. I guess you must miss the post game interviews when players and coaches thanks the fans for brining it. I guess you also fail to realize that players appreciate the passion that the fans and student body brings, sometimes to the point that hey want to play for that school. We also have the right to criticize when a team Comprised of upperclassmen lose to a group of freshman and get outplayed so badly that they don't score in the last seven plus minutes.

Swampmaster · 03-09-2013, 07:38 PM

regular season games don't mean much---just get a 2-3 seed and let it roll

**wci347** · 03-09-2013, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorRade

At least one fan noticed that we were battling the entire game. It was a 50-50 game. It happens.

Now why was it 50-50? That's a good question. This game should have been out of reach long before we started fouling.

We have lost every close game we've played this year. This is not a 50-50 sometimes it goes our way and sometimes it doesn't. We had more success with close games last year than this one. If we are either 10 up or 10 down with 8 minutes to go in the game, and we aren't at home, the game is basically over. That's what this season has shown us. Absolutely no one steps up, and in fact players actually start making bad decisions, and play like deer in a headlight. You would not expect that from A senior and junior starting five. The allowed a bunch of freshman who are thinking about the NBA and could care less about the SEC and the NCAA tournament out tough them when it mattered.

This theme of disappearing in the second half on the road is a recurring one, and is one which will be hard to shed come tournament time.

WESGATORS · 03-09-2013, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mac4lyfe

I gave 4 years of blood, sweat and tears for UF. 20 years later I walk with a limp, have had several back surgeries to go with my handicap sticker as proof.
Excuse me if you think this couch potato is a fool.

What you did in your past doesn't change the fact that you're not doing it for the 2012-2013 team. Maybe you considered publicly called out as having "choked" a respectful and useful analysis of your play when you played. That's fine, others don't. Not saying you don't have a right to say it, but you have a right to be called on it just the same. So we disagree, no big deal.

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Originally Posted by mac4lyfe

I've never been much of a sunshine pumper. I call it as I see it. I love everyone of those guys but I have no problem calling out poor coaching/performance. You can get bitter or you can get better. I sure hope our guys are a lot more thick skin than some of you make them out to be.

I'm the farthest thing from bitter (as I've mentioned, this game was not very important in my opinion). We just don't see things the same way here. All that matters is that we have the same interest for the team going forward. To success in Nashville and a successful journey on the Road to Atlanta!

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

WESGATORS · 03-09-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mac4lyfe

I can bet you that most of these guys absolutely hate suck up students telling them "you'll get them next time", "good game", "Ya'll played real well". yada, yada. They don't want to hear that crap and really don't need smoke blown up their butts.

Big difference between blowing smoke up somebody's butt and refraining from calling them "pathetic chokers." That said, I'm sure they'd prefer the former than the latter when coming from anonymous Internet experts.

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

HALLGATOR · 03-09-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wci347

We have lost every close game we've played this year. This is not a 50-50 sometimes it goes our way and sometimes it doesn't. We had more success with close games last year than this one. If we are either 10 up or 10 down with 8 minutes to go in the game, and we aren't at home, the game is basically over. That's what this season has shown us. Absolutely no one steps up, and in fact players actually start making bad decisions, and play like deer in a headlight. You would not expect that from A senior and junior starting five. The allowed a bunch of freshman who are thinking about the NBA and could care less about the SEC and the NCAA tournament out tough them when it mattered.

This theme of disappearing in the second half on the road is a recurring one, and is one which will be hard to shed come tournament time.

Actually the Bama game was close right up until the end.

gottapanda · 03-09-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JaxLizard

Disagree with the "They don't owe us anything" quote. As a former alumni who donates to the university and attends my fair share of games as many of us do here, they do us something since we financially support this team. I guess you must miss the post game interviews when players and coaches thanks the fans for brining it. I guess you also fail to realize that players appreciate the passion that the fans and student body brings, sometimes to the point that hey want to play for that school. We also have the right to criticize when a team Comprised of upperclassmen lose to a group of freshman and get outplayed so badly that they don't score in the last seven plus minutes.

As a "former alumni," you received what you were due for your tuition - a college education. A donation to the university is just that - a donation. When you donate, you don't get anything back for it. Otherwise it would be called a sale. Speaking of which, when you buy your tickets, does it say anything about getting a refund if the team plays poorly? No, it doesn't. You're paying for the right to sit in the stands and watch. Of course the team appreciates when the crowd is into it, but you're not owed anything for cheering. If you're not happy, don't buy a ticket to the next game.

Sure you have a right to criticize the team if you want to, though I can't imagine what you expect to happen as a result of that criticism. The team answers to Billy, and Billy answers to Foley. Call Billy's office on Monday and say you'd like to speak to the coach or team about your dissatisfaction with their recent play. A sense of entitlement doesn't actually entitle you to anything.

**toddsevans** · 03-09-2013, 10:09 PM

On a positive note we are due. On the other hand if the excecution doesn't dramatically improve we'll be an early exit in both tournaments. Freakin 3's..... take the ball inside or throw it in to Young. Too many seniors to be playing like this.

gator07 · 03-09-2013, 10:19 PM

LoL, is every thread just people fighting with each other?

**sec1** · 03-09-2013, 10:33 PM

At absolute most we are a sweet 16 team but I doubt we are good enough for sweet sixteen , we are a average team away from home , 2 n done

**gatormann** · 03-10-2013, 03:24 AM

I can appreciate how some here feel it is wrong to call our players "chokers". That is a rough label to hang on a collegiate athlete's head. Personally, I don't like hearing our players called "pathetic". That seems too strong and wrong to my sensibilities.

Certainly, our guys can still go out and make a nice tournament run and all will be forgotten. Even if they don't I won't question that they gave all they had today or feel like this team did pretty well this year.

With all that in mind, if it is at all possible for a college basketball team to choke, then that's what the Gator basketball team did today.

**ibdgator** · 03-10-2013, 05:01 AM

it will be exciting to watch march madness. We could be bounced the first round or win the national championship. Every game will be a butt clincher.
go gators