Gator Country

GatorPlanet · 03-09-2013, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorbogey

don't like that c-word.
we just didn't perform. didn't play smart at all down the stretch.

We choked.

GatorRade · 03-09-2013, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondted13

I hate to be so right about this team. But I called it after the Zona game. Fatally flawed. It is so in their heads it's not even funny. They have never been able to get over the Louisville game.

I think you might be patting yourself on the back a bit early here.

WESGATORS · 03-09-2013, 02:32 PM

Last 6:15 of the game:

7 free throws made for Kentucky (7 fouls against FLORIDA; 12 fouls in previous 33:45 of game)
0 free throw attempts for FLORIDA

The whistles make a difference. Not Kentucky's fault, they still played a great game and hit their shots, but the officials were a factor where they didn't need to be late in the game.

Still, the stakes were not equal in this game and we were coming off solidifying our SEC Championship. Even the 2007 squad...(pause for the crumpled up paper being thrown at me)...lost a road game at a very bad LSU team the game after clinching an outright conference title...and of course, GC was in panic mode then too.

Nothing to worry about, time to go win another title in Nashville.

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

mac4lyfe · 03-09-2013, 02:34 PM

It almost feels like BD wants us to lose to other SEC teams in order to help them get in the tourney. His coaching (or lack thereof) has been very suspect to me in these last few games. Not as if I'm an expert but damn.

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Originally Posted by whitelakegator

So we had the chance to put a dagger in the hearts of our biggest bball rival and we choke?

We could have sent them to an NIT and we crumble like stale bread.

Huge disappointment. No more rationalizations please. The team has no one that can hit a big sht late in close games. No points the final 8 minutes. That is truly awful.

gatorr4life · 03-09-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CSpantheGatorFan

UK had to have the game. OK. That doesn't mean we had to give it to them.

I don't see how anybody couldn't be concerned about our inability to win close games this year. We are 0-6 in single digit games this season. Just because some fans chose not to ignore that doesn't mean they need to stop watching basketball. It just means they aren't ignorant of their team's problems.

Exactly.

ncbullgator · 03-09-2013, 02:35 PM

No money players. Period.

**XBLUEX** · 03-09-2013, 02:35 PM

None, Zero, Nada, Nil, NOTHING!! That was our scoring the final 7:30 of the game. WOW!! I agree, I don't believe that I have EVER witnessed that in my life (above HS ball). KY just stuffed it down their throats the last 5 mins. We sure didn't show any fire or killer instinct that's for sure.

**ovillegator** · 03-09-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ncbullgator

No money players. Period.

The fact that Billy has put together a very admirable record this year with them is a credit to his coaching ability.

He has some faults -- all coaches do -- but he cvan do more with above-average to good players than any coach in the league.

diamondted13 · 03-09-2013, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorRade

I think you might be patting yourself on the back a bit early here.

Not something I'm proud of and I hope to God they prove me wrong. I will happily eat crow. But it seems painfully obvious and has all season to some of us on this board. Everything from body language, b-ball IQ, and old-fashioned execution is missing late in close games. If we had 3 sophs and 2 frosh starting I could understand or chalk it up to something other than an 800 pound mental gorilla. It is groundhog day in these games, for possibly the most veteran team in any major conference. Why is that? Crooked refs? Bad luck? Flukey plays? Because that's not the trend I've noticed.

UFG8rGuy3283 · 03-09-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CSpantheGatorFan

UK had to have the game. OK. That doesn't mean we had to give it to them.

I don't see how anybody couldn't be concerned about our inability to win close games this year. We are 0-6 in single digit games this season. Just because some fans chose not to ignore that doesn't mean they need to stop watching basketball. It just means they aren't ignorant of their team's problems.

I guess the point is, the way a lot of folks on these boards "discuss" the problems of the team, it comes off as pretty jerky.

Calling a team you cheer for "a bunch of chokers", rubs me the wrong way.

Do I get frustrated watching this team sometimes? Yeah, of course.

What I try to always remember is that this is a team full of guys who want to win and they give great effort. I refuse to call them names or label them when they're all respectable young men who try hard for my alma matter.

So when I say "you guys are ridiculous", that's where my head is.

You can have a discussion about how the team is playing without being disrespectful to the players and coaching staff.

mac4lyfe · 03-09-2013, 02:52 PM

^^You better believe that some of our players are saying "we choked" in the locker room and on the bus right now. I'm not sure why you rather sugar coat the obvious. It wasn't even a good choke... It was a pathetic choke.

ufgator4ever · 03-09-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by adgator

All agree it was a choke all agree it was most meaningless game of the year all agree Rosario was in another world. Having said that I think Gators will definately get 2/3 seed which in my opinion are the same and are elite eight for sure.

So you're not expecting any games closer than 10 pt with 8 mins left until the elite 8? Have you watched the last 8 games of the season? The offense simply isn't good and the senior/junior guards are playing with an all time low bball IQ.

I'd say 3 or 4 seed. I would be very disappointed for this group if they don't make the sweet 16, but it's very possible they get challenged and lose in the first two games. They simply don't have the fortitude or composure to win in close, tough games.
Billy doesn't seem willing to let Frazier or younger guy take a big shot. Mentally, not sure how this team breaks the funk otherwise.

WESGATORS · 03-09-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mac4lyfe

^^You better believe that some of our players are saying "we choked" in the locker room and on the bus right now. I'm not sure why you rather sugar coat the obvious. It wasn't even a good choke... It was a pathetic choke.

Classless. The players can say whatever they want because they're the ones putting in the effort and busting their butts to win championships (you know, like the one they just won the other night). If us couch potatoes call them chokers, that just makes us look like fools.

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

UFG8rGuy3283 · 03-09-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WESGATORS

Classless. The players can say whatever they want because they're the ones putting in the effort and busting their butts to win championships (you know, like the one they just won the other night). If us couch potatoes call them chokers, that just makes us look like fools.

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

Rep to you, sir.

diamondted13 · 03-09-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorbogey

and the way to have them get over the mental block is to lambast them by calling them chokers and pathetic? not calling you out, but you've i.d.'ed the obvious mental aspects. you'll never get them to optimize their performance at the end of the tight game by calling the team and individuals 'chokers'.

they do need to find a way to suceed in the pressure situation of a game to get over t"he hurdle.

Out of respect for these kids, I have not used words like "choke" or "pathetic" in these threads. Now if you want to interpret the term "mental block" to mean choke, or call it semantics, so be it. I seriously doubt the players come onto this board for emotional support after bitter defeats. If so, they are more mentally fragile than anyone can imagine. I just listened to Billy's postgame and he's at a loss. To paraphrase, he said "at some point somebody's gotta make a play" and referenced the turnovers and good looks we didn't convert down the stretch.

What else can you say when a team goes 7:36 without a single point? I have never seen that and have watched a lot of basketball in my life.

GatorRade · 03-09-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondted13

Not something I'm proud of and I hope to God they prove me wrong. I will happily eat crow. But it seems painfully obvious and has all season to some of us on this board. Everything from body language, b-ball IQ, and old-fashioned execution is missing late in close games. If we had 3 sophs and 2 frosh starting I could understand or chalk it up to something other than an 800 pound mental gorilla. It is groundhog day in these games, for possibly the most veteran team in any major conference. Why is that? Crooked refs? Bad luck? Flukey plays? Because that's not the trend I've noticed.

I'm just saying that their story isn't written yet.

And if it makes any difference, Miami is actually quite a bit older than we are, and they've lost a few pretty close ones recently as well. Teams lose on the road. Almost all teams. But I'm not sure that losing close (rather than blowouts) is the worse option.

rtgator · 03-09-2013, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by number1

Not even a tough shot. We were missing open lay-ups. And Kenny Boynton had a pretty good look at the basket at the end to take the lead and missed it. No one wants to step up and make the big shot I guess.

I don't think that "no one wants to" but no one can.

**GoGator** · 03-09-2013, 03:08 PM

Ky played great d the last 7-8 minutes. We did not! The world does not end fellows--I am proud of this team.

Row6 · 03-09-2013, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by UFreak

You may not like it, but that is what we saw. A team that crumbled because of pressure and inability to close a game.

We did not score in the final 7:36 of the game. That was a choke.

- or even make a play of any kind. Terrible BB.

IH8REFS · 03-09-2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UFG8rGuy3283

Baking cupcakes. Good one! Wow, that hurts.

I guess I just don't see things the same way as most. My expectations coming into this year were to compete for the SEC championship and make a run in the big tourney.

1 of 2 accomplished.

What irritates me is seeing people who rarely post here come out of the wood work when we lose and start talking about how this team is nothing but a bunch of choke artists.

Crap like this happens in basketball. Crap like this happens in life.

Let's just not even go to the tournament next week or the week after because we'll just choke anyway so why bother wasting the university's resources.

Let's see what happens. If we win the SECT next week, then what?

What irritates me is seeing cupcake bakers think that they get to decide who has earned the right to post about the Gators, negatively or otherwise.

Let's just not even discuss the strengths and weaknesses of our team because maybe next time they'll play like Michael Jordan.

Let's see what happens. If we don't win the SECT next week, then what?