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**gatordowneast** · 03-08-2013, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 108

Nothing has changed as far as the requirements

Just the amount of people on them due to the recession

So you want less people needing assistance then properly regulate the the financial markets

The only ones sheltered from the busts that follow the booms are the top

Please don't father any children. We do not need more excuse makers in this country. The "safety net" has become a lifestyle for too many thumbsuckers who always blame circumstances for where they are in life.

Successful people, if they don't have the kind of circumstances, create the kind of circumstances they want...they damn sure don't make excuses.

**gatordowneast** · 03-08-2013, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fredsanford

Send the bills to corporate America. They prefer to hire Filipinos to Americans.

see my comments to 108 above. Apply here too.

**gatordowneast** · 03-08-2013, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MichiGator2002

Force, no. But you can remove the organic and natural incentive to make good choices and thereby enable a never-ending stream of bad ones. We have that down to a science.

Our government have become masters of the above all in the interest of trying to help. The War on Poverty has created 3 generations of permanent poverty participants.

**QGator2414** · 03-08-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wgbgator

So now this has turned into a voluntary decision for whether or not they want to distribute food to people with little money via an alternative gov't market or sell food to people with money for full price. Hmm ... that's gonna work well. This idea keeps getting worse and worse. Face it, giving people an EBT card is the easiest, most efficient way to accomplish this. No new supply chains or distribution centers, no opt in/outs, no stockpiling of gov't cheese. Just people shopping normally like everyone else.

What are talking about? Of course it is voluntary and I know the corporation haters will not like it but if Walmart or the likes do not want to use their competitive advantage in supply chain then someone else would build it and Walmart and the likes would lose all the ebt business...their choice on whether to participate.

I get the liberal likes to give away other people's money with no constraints doing damage the taxpayer but also the beneficiary who loses sense of worth...

Part of the problem is we have made it to EASY or EFFICIENT for people to abuse and become dependent on the program!

wgbgator · 03-08-2013, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by QGator2414

What are talking about? Of course it is voluntary and I know the corporation haters will not like it but if Walmart or the likes do not want to use their competitive advantage in supply chain then someone else would build it and Walmart and the likes would lose all the ebt business...their choice on whether to participate.

I get the liberal likes to give away other people's money with no constraints doing damage the taxpayer but also the beneficiary who loses sense of worth...

Part of the problem is we have made it to EASY or EFFICIENT for people to abuse and become dependent on the program!

There are constraints on food stamps though, and its a program approved by tax payers. Its not perfect, but I doubt a better or more effective alternative is more appealing to conservatives, because it involves either higher private sector compensation (so less people qualify), or a universal guaranteed income (so there is virtually no need for means tested poverty programs).

**G8trGr8t** · 03-08-2013, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wgbgator

SSDI is really hard to get. Its hard to think there are many receiving those benefits that are actually viable workers. Also probably a reason why they were among the first to be unemployed, and the least likely to find more work once they were.

Surely you jest or do you really believe that?

**gator1986** · 03-08-2013, 07:55 PM

Lots of hungry people... Get a job you bums!

diehardgator1 · 03-08-2013, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gator421

Did they win anything?

yes our tax dollars

**QGator2414** · 03-08-2013, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wgbgator

There are constraints on food stamps though, and its a program approved by tax payers. Its not perfect, but I doubt a better or more effective alternative is more appealing to conservatives, because it involves either higher private sector compensation (so less people qualify), or a universal guaranteed income (so there is virtually no need for means tested poverty programs).

A plastic card one can swipe with money on it that they're just handed with zero constraints to help work people off the dependence of it is not a program approved by this taxpayer.

Less people should qualify as well. The vast majority on food stamps enjoy wants at the expense of needs...Which is why choice of food needs to be taken away!

Gatorrick22 · 03-08-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wgbgator

Another useful foodstamp anecdote. Thanks for sharing!

Yeah right.... You know that's just one isolated event that probably never ever happens too often. Not need to think that millions of other people are misusing some of that free money for cancer-sticks and alcohol.

**gatorman_07732** · 03-09-2013, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by G8trGr8t

Surely you jest or do you really believe that?

That's been debunked, but they'll keep on saying it to give these programs more credibility than they deserve.

**gatordowneast** · 03-09-2013, 07:26 AM

Food stamps=welfare bennies=housing vouchers=free day care=free cell phones=99 weeks of unemployment comp=VOTES FOR DEMOCRATIC ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO PERPETUATE POVERTY BY CREATING DEPENDENCY GETTING THEMSELVES REELECTED IN THE PROCESS

real simple

Matthanuf06 · 03-09-2013, 08:19 AM

The implementation of the program is fine, but the incentives to get off of it are not there