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Old 03-07-2013, 08:51 PM   #1
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http://college-basketball.si.com/201...r_a2&eref=sihp

Kind of long winded but he makes some good points and pretty accurate team analysis.
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:37 PM   #2
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Great article and I agree that our margin of victory is significant and generally overlooked because of the close loses. Beating some of these teams isn't a big deal, but look below at how much worse we beat them compared to their other losses.

beat Wisconsin by 18 (5 points more than their 2nd worst loss)
beat Marquette by 33 (14 points more than their 2nd worst loss)
beat Mizzou by 31 (8 points more than their 2nd worst loss)
beat Middle Tenn by 19 (4 points more than their 2nd worst loss)
beat Georgia by 33 (16 points more than their 2nd worst loss)
beat South Carolina by 39 (17 points more than their 2nd worst loss)

Before the games are played I believe the Gators can beat anyone in the country and I expect them to make the Final Four.

But I won't lie that if the game is tied with 1 minute to go, I will be extremely nervous...

Go Gators!
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:54 PM   #3
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Yeah, a lot of good info provided and relevant points made in that article. What a rarity!


It's been amazing what we've done to a lot of teams this season. Before some late-game comebacks, we made quite a few teams look like they really didn't belong on the same court. I almost felt sorry for some of them as we not only doubled, but were tripling the score on some teams well into the game.

Part of that dominance was incredible defense, which I happen to think will be returning as Yeguete gets back in the groove and as the stakes get higher. Sometimes, trying harder only makes the offense get worse, but I think that phenomenon seldom happens to defense, which is all about effort. So, look out in the Tourney! There could be some FUGLY games coming up!!!
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:51 PM   #4
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Good read....thanks for posting.
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:30 PM   #5
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That really was an interesting write-up, and he makes several very important points like: Better teams tend to beat their opponents by more than less better teams, which describes the Gators and Indiana.

So, the two most destructive teams are Florida and Indiana

In games decided by 6 points or less, Indiana
lost at home, 86-88 to Butler
Beat Iowa in Iowa City 69-65
lost at home to Wisconsin 59-64
Beat Michigan State at home 75-70
lost at Illinois 72-74
Beat Michigan State at Michigan 72-68
Lost at Minnesota 73-77

So, they are 3 - 4 in "close games" - 1-2 at home and 2-2 on the road.

Rather interesting that they have a better road than home record in close games - exactly the opposite of the Gators - Ohhhh - wait - the Gators have had no close losses or wins at home, although they were behind by 8 midway through the 2nd half against Bama when they had 2 players still recovering (Yeguete & Frazier), but ended up winning by 12 - so, that doesn't count as "close."

It was also consistent with the Gators 2006 and 2007 teams both of which lost several close games during the regular season, but won the couple they faced in the various tournaments they won.

Interesting analysis. By the way, New Mexico is playing in a conference that is likely below the SEC in competition. They did beat Connecticut at home, who is 9-8 in the Big East; they did beat Mercer at home; they did beat Southern Cal at home, they lost to S. Dakota State at home, they beat Cincinnati in Cincinnati (55-54), the lost at St. Louis; they were stomped at San Diego State 34-55 (much like the Gators were against Arkansas, although the Gators pulled to within 11 before the end), and they lost at UNLV. I'm not sure that I consider that a very impressive record, but he makes the point that they do appear to play down to their competition, with only a couple of greater than 20 point victories, and two solid losses, the 21 point San Diego State loss and a 14 point loss in St. Louis.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:13 AM   #6
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. . . . Interesting analysis. By the way, New Mexico is playing in a conference that is likely below the SEC in competition. . . . . .
I think you mean the opposite. New Mexico is playing in a conference that is far ABOVE the SEC in competition. The Mountain West is the #1 ranked conference in terms of RPI while the SEC is #8. They will likely get twice as many teams in the big dance as the SEC will.
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Home = big wins (15-20 points)

Road = close losses (< 10 points)

Neutral = normal wins (5-10 points)
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If the game is tied with one minute to go that means it has been a bad shooting night and there is probably noone who will get off a good last second shot.
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