Ethanol Mandate to Raise Gasoline Price - GatorCountry.com Swamp Gas Forums

Go Back   GatorCountry.com Swamp Gas Forums > Swamp Gas Community > Too Hot for Swamp Gas



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-11-2013, 01:01 PM   #1
G8trGr8t
Premium Member
 
G8trGr8t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Estero, Fl
Posts: 11,206
G8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond repute
G8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond repute
Default Ethanol Mandate to Raise Gasoline Price

The stupid decisions jsut keep coming from this administration. Remember this next time you want to complaina bout the cost of gasoline. The EPA is becoming the biggest cost outside of the oil itself.

Quote:
The cost of complying with a federal mandate to use corn ethanol in fuel has risen sharply in the past few months, putting a squeeze on oil refiners.

The price of each credit that refiners need under the law topped $1.00 Friday, up from just a few cents last year.

"Eventually that cost is going to get passed along," said Bill Day, a spokesman for Valero Energy Corp., VLO -3.41%which sells gasoline to about 5,000 filling stations in the U.S.

Valero and other big refiners, such as Marathon Petroleum Corp. MPC -1.63%and Tesoro Corp., TSO -2.05%haven't publicly estimated how the compliance costs would affect earnings. The industry has been reporting steady profits recently.

The new expenses "will have an impact on refinery margins," said Tom Kloza, chief oil analyst with the Oil Price Information Service. Refiners could attempt to pass the higher costs on to consumers but so far, that hasn't happened, he said.

The sharp rise in ethanol-credit prices reflects broader problems with the 2007 law, which sought to drive increased use of renewable fuels. Another piece of the mandate, requiring industry to buy fuels made from nonedible plants, has run into trouble because there isn't enough supply to meet federal requirements.
Quote:
Until now, refiners have been able to hit their quotas because about 10% of U.S. gasoline is ethanol. The U.S. consumed about 133 billion gallons of gasoline last year, according to the Energy Information Administration. That meant that about 13.3 billion gallons of ethanol was blended into gasoline, just above the requirement of roughly 13.2 billion gallons.

The Environmental Protection Agency's proposal for this year, which could be made final as soon as next month, could force refiners and fuel importers to use more than 14 billion gallons of ethanol.

But refiners are reluctant to blend gasoline with more than 10% ethanol largely because auto makers say most vehicles can't handle a higher rate. That 10% figure is known as a "blend wall," keeping more ethanol from entering the market.

If Americans don't buy more gasoline this year than last, the blend wall creates a conflict with the government's ethanol requirement. The oil industry is pushing the EPA to lower the 2013 ethanol requirement.

Fears that they will hit the blend wall appear to have made refiners and fuel importers eager to buy credits on the open market, pushing credit prices higher. On Jan. 14, the price of a credit rose above nine cents for the first time in more than two years, according to the Oil Price Information Service. The price has jumped more than tenfold since.
Quote:
Stephen Brown, Tesoro's vice president for federal-government affairs, said the situation could give U.S. refiners an incentive to export gasoline because exports aren't subject to the same ethanol requirements.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...846017206.html

google

U.S. Ethanol Mandate Puts Squeeze on Oil Refiners

for the full article if link doesn't work

This administration wants nothing more than higher and higher gasoline costs to make the alternatives more cost effective and they continue to prove that with their actions. Ethanol is without a doubt one of the stupidest things to ever hit the energy market and is terrible for 2 cycle motors and boats with fiberglass fuel tanks.
G8trGr8t is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Old 03-11-2013, 01:05 PM   #2
brainstorm
Administrator
 
brainstorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Green Cove Springs
Posts: 14,957
brainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond repute
brainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond repute
Default

We can read the article and see the problem (and resolution) immediately. Why can't the EPA?
brainstorm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 01:08 PM   #3
LittleBlueLW
Premium Member
 
LittleBlueLW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Imperial Polk County
Posts: 3,946
LittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond repute
LittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Burning our food is such a great idea.

Not to mention the damage this crap does to engines, fuel tanks and fuel lines.
__________________
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president." Author Unknown

"The arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and assistance to foreign hands should be curtailed, lest Rome fall." Cicero 55 BC
LittleBlueLW is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 01:13 PM   #4
brainstorm
Administrator
 
brainstorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Green Cove Springs
Posts: 14,957
brainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond repute
brainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond repute
Default

And it gives less energy per gallon of fuel.
brainstorm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 01:14 PM   #5
tegator80
Heisman Candidate
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 2,384
tegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond reputetegator80 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleBlueLW View Post
Burning our food is such a great idea.

Not to mention the damage this crap does to engines, fuel tanks and fuel lines.
Just remember that this was a "brilliant" idea from W.
.
.
.
and ADM who helps fund many campaigns on both sides of the aisle.
tegator80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 01:16 PM   #6
G8trGr8t
Premium Member
 
G8trGr8t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Estero, Fl
Posts: 11,206
G8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond repute
G8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond repute
Default

yes, stupidity seems to be bipartisan. and once one idiot starts something, each idiot after him seems to perpetuate and grow it regardless of it's merits.
G8trGr8t is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 01:18 PM   #7
brainstorm
Administrator
 
brainstorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Green Cove Springs
Posts: 14,957
brainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond repute
brainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond reputebrainstorm has a reputation beyond repute
Default

R or D - just a bad idea that needs to go away.
brainstorm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 01:25 PM   #8
oaklandroadie
All SEC
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,217
oaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond repute
Default

The Economist just had a great article on this two weeks ago. Surprising to me though was their contention that American fuel is priced too low. Made points that it skews the free and open market by favoring certain industries an corporations.
oaklandroadie is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 01:30 PM   #9
baygator1
Premium Member
 
baygator1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,237
baygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond repute
baygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond reputebaygator1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brainstorm View Post
R or D - just a bad idea that needs to go away.
This.
baygator1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 02:23 PM   #10
LittleBlueLW
Premium Member
 
LittleBlueLW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Imperial Polk County
Posts: 3,946
LittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond repute
LittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond reputeLittleBlueLW has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tegator80 View Post
Just remember that this was a "brilliant" idea from W.
.
.
.
and ADM who helps fund many campaigns on both sides of the aisle.
One of the many dumb things he did. And the current guy, well he aint no different.
__________________
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president." Author Unknown

"The arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and assistance to foreign hands should be curtailed, lest Rome fall." Cicero 55 BC
LittleBlueLW is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 05:33 PM   #11
Gatorrick22
Gator Country Gold
 
Gatorrick22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 19,918
Gatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond repute
Gatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Pub or Dem, it doesn't matter... it's still a bad idea. Look for food prices to skyrocket because of this.

.....more reason for BO to give even more in food-stamps.
Gatorrick22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 06:14 PM   #12
G8trGr8t
Premium Member
 
G8trGr8t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Estero, Fl
Posts: 11,206
G8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond repute
G8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by oaklandroadie View Post
The Economist just had a great article on this two weeks ago. Surprising to me though was their contention that American fuel is priced too low. Made points that it skews the free and open market by favoring certain industries an corporations.
Cheaper fuel favors every industry and the whole economy in general. Everything you eat, wear, or touch has used energy to produce it and transport it. Higher energy costs are a direct headwind to GDP and ability to be competetive in a global economy.
G8trGr8t is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 06:20 PM   #13
Gatorrick22
Gator Country Gold
 
Gatorrick22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 19,918
Gatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond repute
Gatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by G8trGr8t View Post
Cheaper fuel favors every industry and the whole economy in general. Everything you eat, wear, or touch has used energy to produce it and transport it. Higher energy costs are a direct headwind to GDP and ability to be competetive in a global economy.
Some people, not including roadie, are totally blind the see the facts about how gas prices affect everything we make and is purchased on Earth.

The only ones that gain with higher gas prices is our government and foreign governments like China, Russia, India and all of Europe's.
Gatorrick22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 06:26 PM   #14
Gatorrick22
Gator Country Gold
 
Gatorrick22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 19,918
Gatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond repute
Gatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond reputeGatorrick22 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by G8trGr8t View Post
The stupid decisions jsut keep coming from this administration. Remember this next time you want to complaina bout the cost of gasoline. The EPA is becoming the biggest cost outside of the oil itself.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...846017206.html

google

U.S. Ethanol Mandate Puts Squeeze on Oil Refiners

for the full article if link doesn't work

This administration wants nothing more than higher and higher gasoline costs to make the alternatives more cost effective and they continue to prove that with their actions. Ethanol is without a doubt one of the stupidest things to ever hit the energy market and is terrible for 2 cycle motors and boats with fiberglass fuel tanks.
Is the EPA illegally mandating/dictating laws again?
Gatorrick22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 07:49 PM   #15
g8orbill
VIP Member
 
g8orbill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 55,414
g8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond repute
g8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond reputeg8orbill has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brainstorm View Post
And it gives less energy per gallon of fuel.
I drive out of the way to fill up with gas containing no ethanol
__________________
And that's a First Down!
g8orbill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 08:47 PM   #16
geauxgator1
Heisman Candidate
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,166
geauxgator1 has a reputation beyond repute
geauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond reputegeauxgator1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Additionally corn prices should be going through the roof, also. I understand some of the third world countries that rely on corn heavily are really screwed.
geauxgator1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 09:04 PM   #17
G8trGr8t
Premium Member
 
G8trGr8t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Estero, Fl
Posts: 11,206
G8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond repute
G8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by g8orbill View Post
I drive out of the way to fill up with gas containing no ethanol
I do for my boat and other 2 cycle stuff (chanisaw/weedeater) but down here it is $1 more per gallon
G8trGr8t is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 09:22 PM   #18
rajinGator
VIP Member
 
rajinGator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 10,283
rajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond repute
rajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond reputerajinGator has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by geauxgator1 View Post
Additionally corn prices should be going through the roof, also. I understand some of the third world countries that rely on corn heavily are really screwed.
Also fertilizer and pesticide prices go up, adding to the cost of food and other products and services.
rajinGator is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 10:16 PM   #19
G8trGr8t
Premium Member
 
G8trGr8t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Estero, Fl
Posts: 11,206
G8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond repute
G8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond reputeG8trGr8t has a reputation beyond repute
Default

no studies or links but I really believe that without cheap natural gas providing cheap electricity and cheap oil sourced from N. America this country would still be in a recession. Imagine electricity 15 - 20% higher and gasoline based on $120 oil instead of $95 oil. Toss in the extra billions that would have been exported buying oil from outside N America and all the jobs that the E & P business has created and I have no doubt that we would still be in recession despite the monstere stimulus and fed printing. Amazing that 0 continues to paint the energy E & P companies as evil when they are what have been saving this economy.
G8trGr8t is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 10:44 PM   #20
oaklandroadie
All SEC
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,217
oaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond reputeoaklandroadie has a reputation beyond repute
Default

The Economist also hammered the OA for not speeding up the process to authorize the exportation of natural gas.

This country's energy policy seriously sucks. And I just learned that from like 6 paragraphs.
oaklandroadie is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
ethanol, gasoline, mandate, price, raise

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:15 AM.


Affiliate with the USA Today Sports Media Group
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2009 GatorCountry.comAd Management by RedTyger