What's behind door #3? Well we have......Jeb Bush

[CHFG8R]

Originally Posted by Row6

Except "my boy" actually was the editor of some rinky-dink publication called the Harvard Law Review, a position not acquired without proven smarts, and a law professor at some Jr College called U. of Chicago. Marco went to Santa Fe and then transferred into UF - we all know what that route means, right?

And Bush II went to Yale and Harvard Business School. Your point?


Dismiss Rubio at your own peril. I can't stand the guy (for many of the same reason's I can't stand your guy), but he's good. Scarry good. Antichrist good if you know what I mean.

[Row6]

Originally Posted by CHFG8R

And Bush II went to Yale and Harvard Business School. Your point?


Dismiss Rubio at your own peril. I can't stand the guy (for many of the same reason's I can't stand your guy), but he's good. Scarry good. Antichrist good if you know what I mean.

I don't think Bush made the absolute top of his class in anything he did, unlike Obama, who whatever you think of him otherwise, is very smart.

Bradford Berenson Harvard Law, class of '91; associate White House counsel, 2001-'03 (W's years), and past officer of the conservative law organization The Federalist Society

"You don't become president of the Harvard Law Review, no matter how political, or how liberal the place is, by virtue of affirmative action, or by virtue of not being at the very top of your class in terms of legal ability. Barack was at the very top of his class in terms of legal ability. He had a first-class legal mind and, in my view, was selected to be president of the Review entirely on his merits."

[Tim85]

Originally Posted by Row6

Except "my boy" actually was the editor of some rinky-dink publication called the Harvard Law Review, a position not acquired without proven smarts, and a law professor at some Jr College called U. of Chicago. Marco went to Santa Fe and then transferred into UF - we all know what that route means, right?

Yeah, it means he can relate with the majority of Americans a hell of a lot better than our current POTUS. But hey, what does that matter that he wasn't born with a silver spoon and is more of an average guy than 95% of other politicians on the national level?

[harwil]

Originally Posted by Row6

Except "my boy" actually was the editor of some rinky-dink publication called the Harvard Law Review, a position not acquired without proven smarts, and a law professor at some Jr College called U. of Chicago. Marco went to Santa Fe and then transferred into UF - we all know what that route means, right?

He was elected President of the law review,he wasn't the editor.Second, he was a lecturer at Chicago,not a professor.Distinctions which do make a difference.

[Row6]

Originally Posted by Tim85

Yeah, it means he can relate with the majority of Americans a hell of a lot better than our current POTUS. But hey, what does that matter that he wasn't born with a silver spoon and is more of an average guy than 95% of other politicians on the national level?

Yes, and as Senator Hruska from Nebraska famously said in defense of Judge Carswell:

"Even if he were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren't they, and a little chance? We can't have all Brandeises, Frankfurters and Cardozos."

But don't they already have maybe too many representatives? Obama on the other hand was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth and rose to the absolute top of the academic world he entered and left for more humble pursuits out of principle and sense of adventure. The guy could have been pulling down top dollar on Wall Street or any number of world class legal positions open to the handful of Harvard Law Review editors in the world.

[CHFG8R]

Originally Posted by Row6

I don't think Bush made the absolute top of his class in anything he did, unlike Obama, who whatever you think of him otherwise, is very smart.

Bradford Berenson Harvard Law, class of '91; associate White House counsel, 2001-'03 (W's years), and past officer of the conservative law organization The Federalist Society

"You don't become president of the Harvard Law Review, no matter how political, or how liberal the place is, by virtue of affirmative action, or by virtue of not being at the very top of your class in terms of legal ability. Barack was at the very top of his class in terms of legal ability. He had a first-class legal mind and, in my view, was selected to be president of the Review entirely on his merits."

You're splitting hairs, IMO. Harry Truman, if I'm not mistaken, never got a degree.

[Row6]

Originally Posted by CHFG8R

You're splitting hairs, IMO. Harry Truman, if I'm not mistaken, never got a degree.

I don't disagree - being smart or otherwise accomplished does not prove superiority at whatever else one may begin later in life, but the comparison was made by others, not me. I'm just following it through. I would almost always want a president who is very smart though also some defining life challenges and experiences can be as good or even better. W had neither IMO, unless we count kicking drugs and alcohol.

[Tim85]

Originally Posted by Row6

I don't disagree - being smart or otherwise accomplished does not prove superiority at whatever else one may begin later in life, but the comparison was made by others, not me. I'm just following it through. I would almost always want a president who is very smart though also some defining life challenges and experiences can be as good or even better. W had neither IMO, unless we count kicking drugs and alcohol.

Not true

Marco went to Santa Fe and then transferred into UF - we all know what that route means, right?

You brought it up in your post, right after bringing up Obama's "achievements" academically. That was your comparison. What exactly was your original intention for saying that(Santa Fe to UF) about Rubio?

[Row6]

Originally Posted by Tim85

Not true



You brought it up in your post, right after bringing up Obama's "achievements" academically. That was your comparison. What exactly was your original intention for saying that(Santa Fe to UF) about Rubio?

True.

From up thread:

"He's very polished and slick. Scarry polished and slick. Not much on substance, really, but very effective at delivering messages. You know, kinda like your candidate."

[Tim85]

Originally Posted by Row6

True.

From up thread:

"He's very polished and slick. Scarry polished and slick. Not much on substance, really, but very effective at delivering messages. You know, kinda like your candidate."

That had absolutely no mention of academic achievements. Also, what was your intention for saying that about Rubio?

[DarthG8Rv2]

Jesse Ventura

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[Row6]

Originally Posted by Tim85

That had absolutely no mention of academic achievements. Also, what was your intention for saying that about Rubio?

It did compare their pasts, and since neither accomplished anything grand after completing school except for being elected to office, what else would we compare them on?

[Tim85]

Originally Posted by Row6

It did compare their pasts, and since neither accomplished anything grand after completing school except for being elected to office, what else would we compare them on?

Their personality-traits - which I think is what the original comparison was about. Both young and charismatic speakers who may be more about style rather substance. Both having the ability to generate a lot of buzz and energy from their respective sides, while drawing a lot of discernment and ire from the other. Although, I'm not sure I believe that to be true about either of them(The lack of substance, just different types of substance).

[RayGator]

Thursday 3.7.2013 Lakeland Ledger
AP, Ken Thomas

Jeb Bush More Open To Future White House Bid

>> Jeb Bush has long resisted pressure from supporters to run for President. Now, the former Florida Governor is signaling that he's at least open to the idea. <<

"I'm not saying yes. I'm just not saying no."

>> Comments like those from Bush, 60, are in sharp contrast to past refusals to even entertain the idea of following in the footsteps of his older brother, former President George W. Bush, and their father, President George H.W. Bush. <<

>> His wife, Columba, is Mexican-American and Bush is fluent in Spanish. He won over a diverse electorate of Hispanics in Florida. That personal and and political history could help him to connect with Latinos. <<

http://www.theledger.com/article/201...30309409?tc=ar

Very interesting article on the former Governor of Florida. Would not surprise me if Jeb Bush made the decision to enter the Presidential Primaries in 2016. The older I get the more time flies! 2016 will be here before we know it!

[Row6]

Originally Posted by Tim85

Their personality-traits - which I think is what the original comparison was about. Both young and charismatic speakers who may be more about style rather substance. Both having the ability to generate a lot of buzz and energy from their respective sides, while drawing a lot of discernment and ire from the other. Although, I'm not sure I believe that to be true about either of them(The lack of substance, just different types of substance).

Not to belabor this exceedingly minor point, but I pointed out the differences in their measurable and validated "substance". One was the editor of Harvard Law Review while the other got into our beloved UF via the back door. Of course that doesn't conclusively prove their potential but it does prove their achievements in a comparable area, and what else have we got beyond their election results?

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Originally Posted by Row6

but it does prove their achievements in a comparable area

Wow.

[Row6]

Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

Wow.

I agree that there isn't much comparable about SFCC and Harvard Law, but it's probably the closest we have other than their careers as elected officials.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but your assertion is still that since Rubio went to SFCC, this is proof of his aptitude?

I mean if so, this is your second most embarrassing logic fail of the thread.

[Row6]

Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but your assertion is still that since Rubio went to SFCC, this is proof of his aptitude?

I mean if so, this is your second most embarrassing logic fail of the thread.

I think I made myself clear. If you want to make the case that on the level of academic achievement - except for their elected careers, the only comparable area to measure them by - there is some equivalency, or maybe proven superior achievement by Rubio, let's hear it. This ought to be good. Otherwise, what's your problem?

[orangeblueorangeblue]

I'm just trying to see if that's how you're attempting to quantify it. If so, I'll stick by my "wow."