obama Gives $250 Million To Muslim Brotherhood

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Don't worry, with O's track record, the brotherhood will be bankrupt within the year.

[PSGator66]

Anytime Obama is criticized just chalk it up to paranoia! He does no wrong period!! Nothing is his fault!

[Matthanuf06]

Originally Posted by 108

how myopic and reactionary....we've given billions to Egypt throughout the years, much of to their former dictator

So and that makes it right?

The fact of the matter is we shouldn't be giving money to foreign nations when we have such a severe budget problem. Folks, all working Americans just have to withstand a major tax hike. Americans are being threatened with major cuts to essential services because we aren't "giving enough". Americans can't even freaking visit the White House.

Yet we can give all this money in foreign aid. Why don't we cut the things that matter least to Americans first, such as foreign aid? Better yet, why don't we wait until we have a surplus before giving money to foreigners? Even better yet, why not just allow foreigners to control their own destiny and not fund them?

[108]

Originally Posted by FlyingGatorII

Not when we have a screaming goat in the White House releasing criminals we can't afford to keep jailed, cancelling White House tours that are run by volunteers anyway, lying about Janitors taking pay cuts, and pretty much lying about all the effects of this non cut. That makes things a little different don't you think?

there is a reason we give foreign aid to those who we don't consider close friends

you know this right?

[gator421]

Originally Posted by Matthanuf06

So and that makes it right?

The fact of the matter is we shouldn't be giving money to foreign nations when we have such a severe budget problem. Folks, all working Americans just have to withstand a major tax hike. Americans are being threatened with major cuts to essential services because we aren't "giving enough". Americans can't even freaking visit the White House.

Yet we can give all this money in foreign aid. Why don't we cut the things that matter least to Americans first, such as foreign aid? Better yet, why don't we wait until we have a surplus before giving money to foreigners? Even better yet, why not just allow foreigners to control their own destiny and not fund them?

People have been bitching about us giving money away to other countries as long as I can remember. It is a good question. Let me know if you ever get an answer.

[108]

Originally Posted by Matthanuf06

So and that makes it right?

The fact of the matter is we shouldn't be giving money to foreign nations when we have such a severe budget problem. Folks, all working Americans just have to withstand a major tax hike. Americans are being threatened with major cuts to essential services because we aren't "giving enough". Americans can't even freaking visit the White House.

Yet we can give all this money in foreign aid. Why don't we cut the things that matter least to Americans first, such as foreign aid? Better yet, why don't we wait until we have a surplus before giving money to foreigners? Even better yet, why not just allow foreigners to control their own destiny and not fund them?

im not stating whether we should or shouldn't give foreign aid, just that its myopic to suddenly make it an issue

the reasons for it havent changed throughout the different presidents

[FlyingGatorII]

Originally Posted by 108

there is a reason we give foreign aid to those who we don't consider close friends

you know this right?

Nice try. I'll answer your question after you answer mine..

[Matthanuf06]

Originally Posted by 108

im not stating whether we should or shouldn't give foreign aid, just that its myopic to suddenly make it an issue

the reasons for it havent changed throughout the different presidents

I get that. But doesn't that destroy Obamas entire argument? He is choosing to fund Egypt over funding "essential services" here. He could have decided to cut foreign aid just as easily as anything else. Yet he didn't. So how can he claim a catastrophe?

Personally I think we should force a cut as deep as it takes for them to end foreign aid.

[108]

Originally Posted by Matthanuf06

I get that. But doesn't that destroy Obamas entire argument? He is choosing to fund Egypt over funding "essential services" here. He could have decided to cut foreign aid just as easily as anything else. Yet he didn't. So how can he claim a catastrophe?

Personally I think we should force a cut as deep as it takes for them to end foreign aid.

im gonna guess, like previous presidents giving billions in foreign aid while also having massive debt, there is a reason that it is essential to give

we could debate whether we should or shouldn't give foreign aid to countries with regimes that aren't friendly, but we can at least acknowledge the rationale

[FlyingGatorII]

Originally Posted by 108

im gonna guess, like previous presidents giving billions in foreign aid while also having massive debt, there is a reason that it is essential to give

we could debate whether we should or shouldn't give foreign aid to countries with regimes that aren't friendly, but we can at least acknowledge the rationale

So obviously avoiding the obvious. Do you ever get tired of avoiding the question and ignoring Obama's flaws? The question is, if things are as bad as Obama says, things are very different now then when previous aid was given. How do you justify the doom and gloom coming from the White House when we are giving millions to other countries? How about a direct answer this time? If you don't give one, one can assume it is because there really isn't one..

[DowntownGator]

The title of this thread is appropriately named "obama Gives $250 Million To Muslim Brotherhood", emphasis on "gives" mine.

Indeed, the word "loan" implies it will be paid back, which only the most severely brain damaged fathom as possible. The U.S. doesn't pay back any of its debts either, it simply prints more money. The national debt will NEVER be paid down, it will only get larger and larger until one day it all goes bust. The USA would let the national debt grow if only it had to pay the interest thereon. That's how it rolls. Biggest ponzi scheme ever, but more diabolical because only the US government can print money.

As far as the trillion dollar budget deficits each calendar year, well, that's not important when you have no intention whatsoever in paying down national debt; really, who cares?

So even if Egypt pays back this debt, it won't be paying back anything worth anything.

Personally, and for numerous mutually exclusive reasons, including but not limited to the ones noted above, I object to many many things the US government spends money on, including giving free money to Egypt. I wish all would bankrupt this evil Leviathan by committing the noble act of civil disobedience by refusing to allow any withholding of their paychecks for one single month. Let's see who has the power then. A good start would be for the people to demand interest on all withholding funds the government has been skimming for 75+ years.

Meanwhile, Egypt will NOT pay back the money because we taught them they don't have to, and even if they did it won't mean anything since the money was printed out of thin air to begin with. Most likely, the USA will forgive the $250 million it gave to Egypt just like it has recently forgiven a previous loan of $1 billion to Egypt not too long ago.

Ain't the theater of political entertainment from both the democrats and republican hand wringers funner than watching honey boo boo?

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[mastoidbone]

the real question is why is he so comfortable with jew hating people?
his pastor issues many anti-semitic statements and obama was fine with it for 20 years.

His Sec of defense uttered a horribly anti-semitic statement about american jews--and no problem.

Now he gives 250 million to a government which calls for killing jews and not trusting them.


Would he be the same about black hating people???

Why is he so comfortable with attacks on jews?

[gator421]

Originally Posted by FlyingGatorII

So obviously avoiding the obvious. Do you ever get tired of avoiding the question and ignoring Obama's flaws? The question is, if things are as bad as Obama says, things are very different now then when previous aid was given. How do you justify the doom and gloom coming from the White House when we are giving millions to other countries? How about a direct answer this time? If you don't give one, one can assume it is because there really isn't one..

See CalSf's initial post. That probably explains it as well as it can be explained.

[FlyingGatorII]

Originally Posted by gator421

See CalSf's initial post. That probably explains it as well as it can be explained.

http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas...3&postcount=37

There is discretion about what is cut and from where which is why Barry Soetoro is choosing the ones that hurt Americans the most instead of doing what is right. It's all about politics and the mid term elections of 2014.

[gator421]

Originally Posted by FlyingGatorII

http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas...3&postcount=37

There is discretion about what is cut and from where which is why Barry Soetoro is choosing the ones that hurt Americans the most instead of doing what is right. It's all about politics and the mid term elections of 2014.

It's all about politics? Wow, I didn't realize politics were involved. Don't know about you but I'm crushed.

[HALLGATOR]

It's always been about politics. This should come as no surprise to anyone.

[Gatorrick22]

Originally Posted by CalSFGator

Because money isn't appropriated differently at all in the "blame everything under the sun on Obama" world of disjointed conservatives. Billions in foreign aid and White House tour money are in one bucket sent over from Congress and Obama sits down each morning and decides what to use on what. In this case, he obviously chose African Muslims (not surprising given his heritage there) over wholesome tourist american families and apple pie.

Thus, is the sad, sad mind of the modern conservative. I disliked some presidents in my days, but I was never so unhinged.

So..... because the money is appropriated differently, it doesn't' matter? Or it's not really spent?


So the $250 million dollars is make-believe?

You're the one with the sad mind... If you think you can talk this act of stupidity out of existence. That organization is a terrorist organization whether you know it or not.

[ncgatr1]

They can t pay for 7 employees that work at the WH tours and they are giving 250 million to the Muslim Brotherhood terrorists. Nobody has an issue with this?

[diehardgator1]

Originally Posted by 108

there is a reason we give foreign aid to those who we don't consider close friends

you know this right?

No why?

[Burke]

Originally Posted by 108

how myopic and reactionary....we've given billions to Egypt throughout the years, much of to their former dictator

Yes, but he was essentially pro-American and keeping our enemies at bay.

Obama undermined him, stood by while fanatics who hate us took over, is arming them, arming govt bureaucrats who mostly live a parasitical existence off of us, and trying mightily to disarm us.

And lefties here love it.

Nothing to be concerned about.