GOP Wrote Scripts & Found Prostitutes to Smear Sen. Menedez (D-NJ)

[mdgator05]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

They are the ones that interviewed the prostitutes in the first place

And so they would be totally unbiased in their reporting of a story that could prove devastating to their credibility?

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by rivergator

like i said. none of us knows the truth on this. some just pretend to.

You would have to call Tucker Carlson a lier. You might not like him but he has the reputation of being ethical. They are the ones that broke this story and all they are saying is that is not one of the prostitutes they interviewed and he is standing by his word.

[David Shepherd]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

You would have to call Tucker Carlson a lier. You might not like him but he has the reputation of being ethical. They are the ones that broke this story and all they are saying is that is not one of the prostitutes they interviewed and he is standing by his word.

You have to remember some have a higher standard of proof when it comes to their side.....

[GatrHeel]

Originally Posted by David Shepherd

You have to remember some have a higher standard of proof when it comes to their side.....

Or a lesser standard of proof when it comes to their side.....

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by GatrHeel

Or a lesser standard of proof when it comes to their side.....

The people that broke the story are saying this, don't you think they would know?

[mdgator05]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

The people that broke the story are saying this, don't you think they would know?

I believe heavily in incentives. The Daily Caller could be destroyed by this story if it turns out to be false (the suit will be immediately forthcoming and they will likely lose their access to much of Washington). So when comparing somebody on the record against a person off the record as reported by a reporter with an economic incentive to deny the claims, one would think that most of us would lean towards the reports of the woman on the record.

This woman's story backs the FBI's findings in the case, which determined that nothing illegal happened involving prostitutes (previous claims by Daily Caller involve underage Prostitutes, which has been investigated by the FBI, who found no evidence). While Prostitution itself is not illegal (so the FBI did not investigate those claims), the entire DC story has pretty big holes.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by mdgator05

I believe heavily in incentives. The Daily Caller could be destroyed by this story if it turns out to be false (the suit will be immediately forthcoming and they will likely lose their access to much of Washington). So when comparing somebody on the record against a person off the record as reported by a reporter with an economic incentive to deny the claims, one would think that most of us would lean towards the reports of the woman on the record.

This woman's story backs the FBI's findings in the case, which determined that nothing illegal happened involving prostitutes (previous claims by Daily Caller involve underage Prostitutes, which has been investigated by the FBI, who found no evidence). While Prostitution itself is not illegal (so the FBI did not investigate those claims), the entire DC story has pretty big holes.

I highly doubt Tucker Carlson is going to take part in a false story

[jdrgator]

Originally Posted by David Shepherd

You have to remember some have a higher standard of proof when it comes to their side.....

You also have to remember that some have no proof yet still wildly level accusations and/or conjure up all types of baseless conspiracies.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by jdrgator

You also have to remember that some have no proof yet still wildly level accusations and/or conjure up all types of baseless conspiracies.

Baseless? Two prostitutes said he paid them for sex. What is funny is a prostitute was drummed up as a pawn to say it was all a lie and she was never even part of the story. That is funny

[jdrgator]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

Baseless? Two prostitutes said he paid them for sex. What is funny is a prostitute was drummed up as a pawn to say it was all a lie and she was never even part of the story. That is funny

I actually wasn't referring to your comments specifically, brotha...since like most of us here, we actually don't know the full story. I was, however, making a general point in response to DS's point, which is that standard of proof for which some people accuse others on here is often somewhere near non-existent.

[gatordowneast]

Look guys...Menendez is a democrat, so unless he killed an underage prostitute "on camera" after having sex with her, he skates. And if he killed her by somehow running off a bridge late at night and she drowned, it doesn't count and he still skates. Don't we realize this by now?

[jdrgator]

Originally Posted by gatordowneast

Look guys...Menendez is a democrat, so unless he killed an underage prostitute "on camera" after having sex with her, he skates. And if he killed her by somehow running off a bridge late at night and she drowned, it doesn't count and he still skates. Don't we realize this by now?

Poor poor pubs. They always get screwed while dems get away with everything.... smallest violin playing now

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by jdrgator

Poor poor pubs. They always get screwed while dems get away with everything.... smallest violin playing now

It's amazing how totally unfair the world is to them, isn't it?

[jdrgator]

Originally Posted by rivergator

It's amazing how totally unfair the world is to them, isn't it?

Siege mentality run amok?

[gatorman_07732]

Well when you look at the Ted Kennedy standard it's understandable.

[G8trGr8t]

liberal msm run amuk and becoming just another wing of the dem party is more like it

nobody wants to bite on all the other smut surrounding this senator???

illegal alien sex offender working in his office protected from arrest until after election

intervention on behalf of campaign donor directly responsible for over $500k worth of support from superpac he funded so donor can get fat contract

free unreported plane flights from this same sleazy campaign donor and close personal friend

i am sure some will explain it all away though, they always do

[MastaG8r]

"GOP Wrote Scripts & Found Prostitutes to Smear Sen. Menedez (D-NJ)"

Just another unsupported accusation from the same poster who falsely claimed that Marco Rubio's parents were illegal immigrants.

[jdrgator]

Originally Posted by G8trGr8t

liberal msm run amuk and becoming just another wing of the dem party is more like it

nobody wants to bite on all the other smut surrounding this senator???

illegal alien sex offender working in his office protected from arrest until after election

intervention on behalf of campaign donor directly responsible for over $500k worth of support from superpac he funded so donor can get fat contract

free unreported plane flights from this same sleazy campaign donor and close personal friend

i am sure some will explain it all away though, they always do

David Vitter, Mark Foley, John Ensign, Jim Gibbons, Dick Cheney,and Richard Armitage to name just a few pubs off the top of my head who have not been prosecuted in recent years for criminal activity or escaped serious punishment for some major ethical lapses.

Point is the problem is not about left/right but about how political power still protects politicians of both stripes from all sorts of ethical and legal transgressions yet the reflexive claim from many on the right is that pubs only get screwed.

I think there's something to the Mendez story and if he did engage in the behaviors alleged, he should be sh--canned and run the heck out of town. But that remains to be seen. On the other hand, the victim mentality is just whiny nonsense that undercuts thoughtful commentary.

[MichaelJoeWilliamson]

Ooops

The Washington Post mistook one prostitute for another Monday in a report that initially seemed to debunk a November 2012 Daily Caller exposé of New Jersey Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez.

While the Post said it had an affidavit from a woman in the Dominican Republic admitting she fabricated claims Menendez paid her for sex, that woman was not one of the two prostitutes TheDC interviewed for a Nov. 1 report.

The Post identified the woman as 23-year-old Nexis de los Santos Santana.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/05/wa...z-allegations/

[G8trGr8t]

Originally Posted by jdrgator

David Vitter, Mark Foley, John Ensign, Jim Gibbons, Dick Cheney,and Richard Armitage to name just a few pubs off the top of my head who have not been prosecuted in recent years for criminal activity or escaped serious punishment for some major ethical lapses.

Point is the problem is not about left/right but about how political power still protects politicians of both stripes from all sorts of ethical and legal transgressions yet the reflexive claim from many on the right is that pubs only get screwed.

I think there's something to the Mendez story and if he did engage in the behaviors alleged, he should be sh--canned and run the heck out of town. But the victim mentality is just whiny nonsense that undercuts thoughtful commenting.

which one of those is still in power let alone chairman of the senate foreign relations committee with the full support and backing of his party? Maybe I am wrong but it seems that all of them except tricky dick were expelled from their positions shortly after their transgressions were made public and none of them had cover from the lmsm.

which one had their transgressions basically ignored or buried on page A-34 by the MSM?