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GolphinGator · 03-02-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bposs

Did we wrap up SEC reg season championship today ?

I think we have at least a share. If and when we beat Vandy Wednesday then Florida will be the regular season champion.

GatorsGators · 03-02-2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by oneatatime

Florida and Missouri are in.

Everybody else will need something special.

Mississippi's loss was unbelievable. The others were not surprising on the road, but still I suspect, someone will need to make the SEC final to secure a bid

Three

Florida, Missouri, and Tennessee/Kentucky/Alabama. Probably Kentucky because they're Kentucky. Tennessee has the best resume at this point.

Arkansas honestly has no chance. Same with Ole Miss after today.

gatordavisl · 03-02-2013, 10:55 PM

I know Ark is 18-11 and has an rpi in the80s. I still think they get in, esp. with wins against UF and UK.

gtr2x · 03-03-2013, 12:44 AM

Gators are in, everybody else has work to do. Don't get all the love for Mizzou but they prob sneak in along with 2 others. Think SEC gets 4 in. Still think if bama wins out and pick up a couple in the tourney they make it along with UT. Hard to overlook That 30 pt win over UK and win over UF.

gatorbogey · 03-03-2013, 01:10 AM

i think it's Florida and Missouri and whoever wins the SEC-T if it isn't the gators or missouri tigers.

if the field were made today, SEC only gets 2 into the dance.

GatorPlanet · 03-03-2013, 07:56 AM

The Florida game is huge for UK.

rtgator · 03-03-2013, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1

I doubt UK gets in. They will lose at UGa this week. They might beat UF. They will fold quickly in the SEC tourney.

UK has a huge edge over other bubble teams due to ticket sales and TV ratings.

They'll get in unless they lose to Georgia and UF and then bomb in the SEC tourney.

REM08 · 03-03-2013, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rtgator

UK has a huge edge over other bubble teams due to ticket sales and TV ratings.

They'll get in unless they lose to Georgia and UF and then bomb in the SEC tourney.

According to media that attended the recent media mock NCAA selection event, the selection committee makes no allowances for this. We all have to decide whether or not we believe this, but the several media I saw write on the event were very surprised and very convinced.

**GothamGator** · 03-03-2013, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorbogey

i think it's Florida and Missouri and whoever wins the SEC-T if it isn't the gators or missouri tigers.

if the field were made today, SEC only gets 2 into the dance.

What's interesting is that based on the current SEC standings, Missouri would be seeded fifth, and therefore set to meet Florida in the semi-finals should they advance that far. The other half would be stuffed with the bubble teams, who can make a run to the finals and make a case for the committee.

Ultimately, one of the bubble teams is going to get hot to close the season and get into the dance, possibly even two (but not likely). It's just hard to guess who that's going to be.

lean_gator · 03-03-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RD_gator

According to ESPN bubble watch, the SEC has the following bubble teams.
Last 4 out: Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama.
Ole Miss is in next four out.

Here are some key SEC regular season games left that will have an impact on which SEC teams will make it or not:

Alabama @ Ole Miss
Arkansas @ Missouri
Tennessee vs Missouri
Florida @ Kentucky

For the SEC tourney projections based on this week's standings http://www.volnation.com/forum/tenne...rojection.html, the SEC semifinals could be the following:

#1 Florida vs #4 Mississippi/#5 Missouri

#2 Alabama/ #7 Tennessee vs #3 Kentucky/ #6 Arkansas

In my opinion, should Florida advance to the SEC finals, the Gators will have their hardest game in their semifinal where a potential third show down between Missouri & UF could occur! Some of these SEC bubble teams can still help each other out by picking up key wins. However, some of these bubble teams can also knock each other out, too!

Greatly disagree. Playing a desperate Tennessee team in the finals will be 100x tougher than playing Mizzou in the semifinals. How many times does Tennessee have to beat us for people to realize that we have a real hard time matching up with them?

gatordavisl · 03-03-2013, 09:56 AM

Everyone knows the SEC is weak this year. If our 14-team league earns fewer than four bids, that would be a major disappointment, weak conference or not. Heck, getting just four would be an indictment on the league. Palm's latest bracket has six bids for the Big Ten. He also has Tennessee in, though. Depending on how the field performs down the stretch, we might get UF, MZ, Ark, UK, UT. It is possible (though improbable).

We have six teams in the top 64 of the rpi, but several are low. UK is 50, UT is 53, and Bama is 63.

GatorPlanet · 03-03-2013, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by REM08

According to media that attended the recent media mock NCAA selection event, the selection committee makes no allowances for this. We all have to decide whether or not we believe this, but the several media I saw write on the event were very surprised and very convinced.

The Selection Committee can't win. If they invite UK, everyone will claim that bias is the reason. If they don't invite UK, everyone (or at least Big Blue) will claim that bias is the reason.

GatorPlanet · 03-03-2013, 10:23 AM

RPI, BPI, SOS and all that stuff are compiled over a full season, as they should be. However, the Selection Committee also looks realistically at how a team is performing at the close of the season. Did a team with a so-so record just get a key player back and go on a 5-game tear? Did a bubble team with a better record go into a skid? Those things figure into it. Teams evolve, sometimes dramatically, over the course of a season, and sometimes over the course of a couple of weeks.

REM08 · 03-03-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorPlanet

The Selection Committee can't win. If they invite UK, everyone will claim that bias is the reason. If they don't invite UK, everyone (or at least Big Blue) will claim that bias is the reason.

Yeah I agree. My take is if you're on the bubble you didn't do enough during the year to complain if you're left out. Occasionally I feel bad for some mediocre school who gets shunned, but not schools that should be playing for more.

VolsFan07 · 03-03-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RD_gator

Missouri should get in; they have good victories over Illinois, VCU, Florida & others!
That Missouri-Arkansas game should be a good grudge match based on their previous game. Tennessee is not winning any opposing fans' approval either as the vols play a very thuggish style of basketball!

Oh please.

ldgator · 03-03-2013, 11:36 AM

Id love to crush KY and help keep them out of the tournament. It'd break their hearts! They literally have nothing else to look forward to.

themistocles · 03-03-2013, 12:00 PM

Regarding how well the Gators match up with Tennessee, I think that is an utter unknown given that when the Gators played them in Knoxville, 25% of the key players played nothing, and, at the end, when the short-handed and therefore tired Gators might have made a run, Prather was injured.

Additionally, Knoxville is much like Nashville, Starkville and Fayetteville regarding visiting teams managing victories. That recent game was not even a roughly reasonable measuring stick for how UF and UT match up.

Regarding Bubble Teams - Missou looks to have the toughest row to hoe.

I haven't a clue about Kentucky right now. One of the hardest thing for young teams to do is exhibit consistency, and they have certainly been guilty of inconsistency this year. If Yeguete and Frazier get up to full steam by that game, which could well be true, Ky's chances of victory are not great, but then, you never know.

Tennessee might possibly get in, and they have only a few "bad" losses on their record, with perhaps the worst being their sweep by 14-15 Georgia. Ole Miss also swept them, but Ole Miss is not a "below average team. All of their Non-Conference losses were to decent teams.

Honestly, I didn't understand how they avoided being selected last year, and I think perhaps the committee has something of a bias against UT, although that may be unfounded. I really think they have a decent chance of getting in, and the remaining schedule is not bad, although they will likely have to play 4 games in the SEC tournament, which is not an advantage. They can't make the top 4 unless they win out, and both Missou & Ole Miss lose out (which could happen, Ole Miss has the head-to-head advantage in a tie having a sweep of UT), and Arky looses another game, they are unlikely to be in the top 4.

As usual, an interesting season, albeit not nearly as interesting as in the Big 10, the Big 12, the Big East and the Pac 12. More like the ACC or Conference USA with one dominant or somewhat dominant team.

gatorbogey · 03-03-2013, 12:07 PM

if UK beats us, they get in. provided they don't stumble elsewhere. tenn really did have a golden opportunity to play their way in after beating us - but they almost needed to be flawless the rest of the way.

UK's metrics - like sagarin, etc - are still solid. apparently the committee collectively doesn't look at that stuff, but individually, they still may do. individually they still may look at tix sales etc. [has to play a role...i know it would influence me, if i had to choose between two programs that were equal in most other parameters to get into the tourney. i think i'd pick UK for the sales and the fact they are the defending nat'l champs. i'd be looking to get them into the tourney].

teams that can play themselves in w/ a solid finish and deep run in the SEC-T: UK, Bama, ole miss, Ark, maybe Tenn (probably has to win the SEC-T....and the way they played us: they can)

InstiGATOR1 · 03-03-2013, 12:20 PM

Well liverpi.com:

http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/SEC.html

has the following projected regular season RPIs for SEC bubble teams:

UMo: 34.9, so even if they lose at UTn, they are in.

UK: 47.3, but that does not count the UGa loss. So they must win at UGa and against UF to get to that kind of RPI and be in for sure. If they split they will be about 52.9 in the RPI and right on the bubble.

UMs: If they can beat UAL at home and win at LSU, they will be around 55. That will put them right on the bubble with UK.

UTn: If they can win at AU and beat UMo at home they too will be right around 55 in the RPI.

UAL: If they can sweep at UMs and UGa at home, they will come in with an RPI of around 58.

I think it is hard to make a case for UAR or any other SEC bubble team.

tommyuf21 · 03-03-2013, 02:10 PM

UK gets an advantage because of their schedule strength. They would really help their cause if they win out and get at least one victory in the SEC tourney.

I think the committee will look for legitimate reasons to give them a bid as opposed to leaving them out. Their fan base, the story lines, etc are all aspects that enhance the profile of the tournament.