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02-27-2013, 09:13 AM
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John Boehner Refuses to Allow the House to Vote on Sequester Replacement Bill
Someone needs to tell Leader Boehner two things:
1. Spending bills MUST start in the house
2. He hasn't moved a spending bill in this new congress
He's done nothing...
http://www.politicususa.com/john-boe...ment-bill.html
John Boehner Refuses to Allow the House to Vote on Sequester Replacement Bill
On the same day that John Boehner told the Senate to get off its ass, he refused to allow the House to vote on a sequester replacement bill.
According to Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD), “Tonight marks the third time this year that House Republicans have refused to take up a Democratic substitute to the sequester while failing to put forth their own sequester alternative. With 750,000 jobs at stake – not to mention the furlough of hundreds of thousands of federal employees – this is a total abdication of leadership from Speaker Boehner and his caucus.”
Speaker Boehner’s stock line is that the House has already acted, but this is a lie. The House acted in the last Congress. The two bills that were passed in the 112 Congress died as soon as the 113th Congress was sworn in. The House has to pass a sequester replacement bill, but Republicans are refusing to allow Van Hollen’s bill to come to the floor for a vote.
His bill has adopted Obama’s balanced approach. It contains the Buffett Rule, and it cuts subsidies for agribusiness and Big Oil. The bill also contains a 2/3 cuts to 1/3 revenue ratio. Republicans refuse to allow the bill to come to the floor for a vote for one simple reason. They are afraid that it will pass. There are likely enough Republicans that will cross party lines and join with universal Democratic support to pass the bill. The Senate version of Van Hollen’s bill will be passed easily, and Obama would sign it in about a half a second.
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02-27-2013, 09:19 AM
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And Reid allows everything to get voted on too. Hypocrite. Reid is biggest obstruction in DC.
If u are going to cut and paste this drivel isn't it supposed to be in quotes?
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02-27-2013, 09:25 AM
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The sequester was the administrations idea, they made a calculation and it's going to blow up in there faces. They got their tax increase earlier with the agreement for cuts later. So now they want to change the agreement.
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02-27-2013, 10:02 AM
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996- you make me laugh-tell me when has your prez even come close to submitting a passable budget or when has the Senate that is controlled by your party passed a budget
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02-27-2013, 10:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gator996
Someone needs to tell Leader Boehner two things:
1. Spending bills MUST start in the house
2. He hasn't moved a spending bill in this new congress
He's done nothing...
http://www.politicususa.com/john-boe...ment-bill.html
John Boehner Refuses to Allow the House to Vote on Sequester Replacement Bill
On the same day that John Boehner told the Senate to get off its ass, he refused to allow the House to vote on a sequester replacement bill.
According to Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD), “Tonight marks the third time this year that House Republicans have refused to take up a Democratic substitute to the sequester while failing to put forth their own sequester alternative. With 750,000 jobs at stake – not to mention the furlough of hundreds of thousands of federal employees – this is a total abdication of leadership from Speaker Boehner and his caucus.”
Speaker Boehner’s stock line is that the House has already acted, but this is a lie. The House acted in the last Congress. The two bills that were passed in the 112 Congress died as soon as the 113th Congress was sworn in. The House has to pass a sequester replacement bill, but Republicans are refusing to allow Van Hollen’s bill to come to the floor for a vote.
His bill has adopted Obama’s balanced approach. It contains the Buffett Rule, and it cuts subsidies for agribusiness and Big Oil. The bill also contains a 2/3 cuts to 1/3 revenue ratio. Republicans refuse to allow the bill to come to the floor for a vote for one simple reason. They are afraid that it will pass. There are likely enough Republicans that will cross party lines and join with universal Democratic support to pass the bill. The Senate version of Van Hollen’s bill will be passed easily, and Obama would sign it in about a half a second.
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My offer still stands: you clean up yours, I will clean up mine.
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02-27-2013, 10:13 AM
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There is no question that Boehner and Obama are both equally complicit in this sequester fiasco.
Thankfully, Obama's days are numbered. And I hope Boehner's days are numbered, along with the Republican establishment. Red or Blue makes no distinction between establishment politicians.
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02-27-2013, 10:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gatorman_07732
The sequester was the administrations idea, they made a calculation and it's going to blow up in there faces. They got their tax increase earlier with the agreement for cuts later. So now they want to change the agreement.
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The sequester was voted for by republicans & democrats...could have been avoided by congress with the super committee...was designed to be so crappy as to make getting a better negotiated deal easy.
That didn't happen because the house GOP can't manage its membership to negotiate a deal with anyone including Boehner.
Please explain the logic of blocking a vote to avoid the sequester.
And then you can explain how the GOP's politcal strategies have been working out recently...
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"We want to be the fastest team in America, fast teams win."
"This is why we spend so much time recruiting because you need playmakers. You need difference makers."
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02-27-2013, 10:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gator996
The sequester was voted for by republicans & democrats...could have been avoided by congress with the super committee...was designed to be so crappy as to make getting a better negotiated deal easy.
That didn't happen because the house GOP can't manage its membership to negotiate a deal with anyone including Boehner.
Please explain the logic of blocking a vote to avoid the sequester.
And then you can explain how the GOP's politcal strategies have been working out recently...
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Seriously you need to see where to sequester was derived and it wasn't congress
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02-27-2013, 10:27 AM
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We need the cuts as a start and then more cuts.
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02-27-2013, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gatorman_07732
Seriously you need to see where to sequester was derived and it wasn't congress
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Sequestration
On August 2, 2011, Congress passed the Budget Control Act of 2011 as part of an agreement to resolve the debt-ceiling crisis. The Act provided for a Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction (the "super committee") to produce legislation by late November that would decrease the deficit by $1.2 trillion over ten years. When the super committee failed to act,[1] another part of the BCA went into effect. This directed automatic across-the-board cuts (known as "sequestrations") split evenly between defense and domestic spending, beginning on January 2, 2013.
The sequestration became a major topic of the fiscal cliff debate. The debate's resolution, the American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012 (ATRA), eliminated much of the tax side of the dispute but only delayed the budget sequestrations for two months, thus reducing the original $110 billion to be saved per fiscal year to $85 billion in 2013.[2]
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"We want to be the fastest team in America, fast teams win."
"This is why we spend so much time recruiting because you need playmakers. You need difference makers."
Urban Meyer, Former Head Coach Univ. of Fla.
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02-27-2013, 11:09 AM
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Hey 996 looks like Obama is going to be in trouble, this is a good move
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Senate GOP ponders ceding power to President Obama
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http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...149.html?hp=l1
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Days before the March 1 deadline, Senate Republicans are circulating a draft bill that would cancel $85 billion in across-the-board spending cuts and instead turn over authority to President Barack Obama to achieve the same level of savings under a plan to be filed by March 8.
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02-27-2013, 11:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gator996
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Sequestration
On August 2, 2011, Congress passed the Budget Control Act of 2011 as part of an agreement to resolve the debt-ceiling crisis. The Act provided for a Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction (the "super committee") to produce legislation by late November that would decrease the deficit by $1.2 trillion over ten years. When the super committee failed to act,[1] another part of the BCA went into effect. This directed automatic across-the-board cuts (known as "sequestrations") split evenly between defense and domestic spending, beginning on January 2, 2013.
The sequestration became a major topic of the fiscal cliff debate. The debate's resolution, the American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012 (ATRA), eliminated much of the tax side of the dispute but only delayed the budget sequestrations for two months, thus reducing the original $110 billion to be saved per fiscal year to $85 billion in 2013.[2]
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But the whole idea was crafted by the Obama administration in an effort to box in Republicans and make them cave for more tax hikes.
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02-27-2013, 11:15 AM
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"a good move"...how because its good political gamesmanship?
the pubs are trying to pin the pain on Obama
(make him choose which govt programs get cut)
If you really thought this was a "good" idea then you should be all for Chris VanHollen's plan to replace the 1st year sequestration with increased revenue, abolishing some agri subsidies, & closing tax loopholes with no cuts needed year 1 to defense....
And those actions would continue on into the future...
Would you go for that offer instead of cutting defense?
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"We want to be the fastest team in America, fast teams win."
"This is why we spend so much time recruiting because you need playmakers. You need difference makers."
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02-27-2013, 11:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gatorman_07732
But the whole idea was crafted by the Obama administration in an effort to box in Republicans and make them cave for more tax hikes.
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Who cares?
If the Republicans didn't like it they didn't have to ote for it or could've avoided it by negotiating SOMETHING since the summer of 2011.
This is just a public show of the dysfunctionality of Congress....
...not Obama.
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"We want to be the fastest team in America, fast teams win."
"This is why we spend so much time recruiting because you need playmakers. You need difference makers."
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02-27-2013, 11:21 AM
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Hey it gives Obama more flexibility in his own plan, I mean what more can you ask for?
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02-27-2013, 11:25 AM
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I can ask for the Congressional leaders to act like grownups and do their jobs....
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"We want to be the fastest team in America, fast teams win."
"This is why we spend so much time recruiting because you need playmakers. You need difference makers."
Urban Meyer, Former Head Coach Univ. of Fla.
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02-27-2013, 11:27 AM
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and we can ask 0 and reid to act like grownups and not spoiled children who pitch a fit everytime somebody tells them no. arrogance and narcissism are not traits that lend themselves to good leadership and the wh and reid are overloaded with both
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02-27-2013, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by gator996
I can ask for the Congressional leaders to act like grownups and do their jobs....
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This is huge for Obama, because now he can do something about the people he was claiming this was going to hurt.
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02-27-2013, 11:28 AM
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Irony thy name is democrat.
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02-27-2013, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by G8trGr8t
and we can ask 0 and reid to act like grownups and not spoiled children who pitch a fit everytime somebody tells them no. arrogance and narcissism are not traits that lend themselves to good leadership and the wh and reid are overloaded with both
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Its all congressional leadership...McConnell/Reid Boehner/Pelosi......
At some point after a year & a half, they need Obama to hold their hand to cut pennies?
Please.
Van Hollen has an alternative to avoid the year 1 cuts...ideas from dems & pubs.
You're making an argument for congress not doing anything and POTUS being all-powerful....
Respect checks & balances ...and do your job congressional leaders!!!
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"We want to be the fastest team in America, fast teams win."
"This is why we spend so much time recruiting because you need playmakers. You need difference makers."
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