Tennessee Basketball

[REM08]

Originally Posted by gatorfansrule

My guess would be our style doesn't match up well with their style. They usually have a team full of tall, lanky, athletic players at most of their positions on the floor. We struggle against their height and athleticism. Our style of play doesn't go bang inside often and we struggle to get good shots off against them.

I agree with this post. As evidence I'd also point to Florida's issues with UK the past few years (and I do this tactfully - of course) If you had to pick out 2 SEC teams that usually field a team, like you describe, of lanky athletic types, wouldn't those two teams be UT and UK? As more evidence, look at UK this year. Not particularly long or athletic with the exception of a couple guys. Look what happened to us this year when we're having to depend so heavily on un-lanky and un-athletic guys like Polson, Harrow (athletic but soft and small), Mays and Wiltjer.

I don't see next year's Florida roster having problems with these kind of teams though. The only thing that might worry me is what we saw last night in defending bigger guards.

[HALLGATOR]

We go down two players and lose by 6 at Tenn. Kentucky goes down by one players and loses by 30.

[sgtfury]

Originally Posted by UFreak

I agree with Vol. I didn't think he was fouling. He just wants it more and gets after it more. He's tough.

Gators have not been tough since Noah and Horford lined up. It goes "how bad do you want it and what does it mean to you!" Tennessee loves playing the Gators.

[REM08]

Originally Posted by qwghlmgator

Tennessee was missing: A decent-to-good player.

Florida was missing: 25% of our rotation, including one of the top "glue guys" in the country and our second best three-point shooter (on a night that ended with a 1-13 streak from three).

And Tennessee had the bigger loss? That's preposterous to anyone with even a cursory understanding of basketball.

The only thing preposterous is that you believe what you posted. A "decent to good" player? He was second team all SEC. You guys were down two non-starters. You're busy giving me percentages, but I can't imagine Yeguettes minutes plus Fraziers are that much more than what Maymon's would have been. I'm not saying theirs was a much larger loss, just please stop kidding yourself that you guys were completely injury wrecked and they only dealt with a minor loss.

[HALLGATOR]

Originally Posted by REM08

The only thing preposterous is that you believe what you posted. A "decent to good" player? He was second team all SEC. You guys were down two non-starters. You're busy giving me percentages, but I can't imagine Yeguettes minutes plus Fraziers are that much more than what Maymon's would have been. I'm not saying theirs was a much larger loss, just please stop kidding yourself that you guys were completely injury wrecked and they only dealt with a minor loss.

The reason you don't want to "imagine" anything is that you seem to be enjoying yourself this morning playing Tenn advocate.

[regurgigator]

Originally Posted by iVol4Life

Any fouls committed by anyone were called. If they aren't called - whether the ref missed it or just didn't think it was a foul - it doesn't matter because they aren't fouls. No sense in complaining over something so silly.

Edited for strange wording.

Is it true? Are you the first fan I've ever heard of who has never complained about "a foul" not being called?

Tell the truth, now. You have never once in your life said or thought: "I think there was a foul there that the ref should have called."? If so, you, sir, are one amazing, remarkable fan!!!

[iVol4Life]

Originally Posted by regurgigator

Is it true? Are you the first fan I've ever heard of who has never complained about "a foul" not being called?

Tell the truth, now. You have never once in your life said or thought: "I think there was a foul there that the ref should have called."? If so, you, sir, are one amazing, remarkable fan!!!

During the game, maybe, but rarely. After a game? Not once.

[REM08]

Originally Posted by HALLGATOR

The reason you don't want to "imagine" anything is that you seem to be enjoying yourself this morning playing Tenn advocate.

Not enjoying myself, I do enjoy playing devil's advocate though. Obviously my timing is poor here but I dont want to give anyone the idea that I am in any way happy about last night's game. I'm not. I made my point and I'll drop it from here.

[Jonas]

Originally Posted by nycg8r

A friend who went to UTenn sent me a factoid this am that even he said made zero rational sense:
Since 2006, Florida has won two national titles, made two Elite Eights, had 10 players drafted...and is just 5-11 against Tennessee

Any of the basketball junkies want to try and explain? Too much emphasis on the UK rivalry?

Basically Billy's style doesn't work as well against Tenn, but works well against most teams in cbb, especially in the tourney. On the flip side, Tenn's style works well against us, but not as successful in the tourney.

I think some of it is also Tenn is the first really physical team we play in the season, and since we tend to be more of a skill oriented team, we aren't ready for that yet.

[regurgigator]

Originally Posted by iVol4Life

During the game, maybe, but rarely. After a game? Not once.

Even that is mighty impressive. Not that I agree with it. I don't think ref's calls are sacrosanct and are worthy of discussion and often criticism after the fact.


Can I assume you are the same with football and will confirm, for example, that Gaffney absolutely, without question, caught that ball for the winning TD against UT (if you're old enough to know what game I'm referring to)?

[BEH]

Originally Posted by iVol4Life

Any fouls committed by anyone were called. If they aren't called - whether the ref missed it or just didn't think it was a foul - it doesn't matter because they aren't fouls. No sense in complaining over something so silly.

Edited for strange wording.

Martin teaches to play basketball as a full contact sport. Stokes is a bull and plays like one. UT gets by with murder at Knoxville. It has been that way for decades.

Florida has the best defense that I have seen this year. Tennessee last night was allowed to hand check and run over people getting rebounds. You can call it what you like but UT has homer after homer calls last night.

Just because a foul is not called does not mitigate anything. Tennessee is a bunch of thugs playing thug defense. The SEC refs should correct it, but they won't.

[Gator8239]

Tennessee fans and the team look forward to playing UF every year. Those who live in Tennessee know what I am talking about. My Facebook never has UT bball posts come up, but yesterday it was nothing but UT fans getting crazy to play UF and subsequent jubilation at beating us 8 out of the last nine or whatever crazy streak they have. It makes them feel better about getting dominated in football. We never take UT serious, at home or on the road, and it really shows. The only teams we are excited to play is UK. Then again, UK basketball and Bama football are the only teams who have caused UF fans severe prolonged pain for the last five years whereas UT has been getting dominated in most sports by many teams for the last 5 years. You can't imagine the pain we have caused Ut football for the last 20 or so years.

In sum, we are the number 1 or 2 rival for Vols depending on how old they are. For college age kids, many have only seen UT beat UF 2 or 3 times in football in their life! UT is a nuisance to Gator fans. We laugh at them for their irrational hope of becoming something other than a cellar dweller in football and think they are kind of cute in a pathetic way. For UF the vols fall behind FSU, UGA, LSU, Ohio State, Bama, Miami and any team Kiffen is coaching in terms of most hated.

Basketball is a game of motivation and UT has a lot more motivation to beat UF then we do to beat them. It is particularly effective in regards to hustle plays, fast breaks and crowd noise. Until Billy starts circling the UT game on the team calendar every year they will continue to plague us.

[patsyruth2008]

Originally Posted by regurgigator

Even that is mighty impressive. Not that I agree with it. I don't think ref's calls are sacrosanct and are worthy of discussion and often criticism after the fact.


Can I assume you are the same with football and will confirm, for example, that Gaffney absolutely, without question, caught that ball for the winning TD against UT (if you're old enough to know what game I'm referring to)?

This is an awesome post!!!!!!! The perfect response. It will be interesting to see if ivol responds. Well done.

[orlandogator]

Come on folks, losing that much in your rotation prevents you not only from scoring but from playing hustle defense which is UF's trade mark and we lost by 6. You dont think WY makes up that difference alone in both points taken away, points gained and possessions? You dont think we get at least 2 more rebounds?

please. even on their floor its no contest, on ours or a neutral floor they would lose by double digits easy. My concern isnt Tennessee, its that these recent losses will cost us seeding.

[bullish]

Let me add a little humor. Could you imagine Bruce Pearl coaching the Gators last night against the Vols who dismissed them. He would of lost it or killed a couple of ref's. LOL

I am going to have nightmares of the visions of Billy waving his arms going wait, wait, they ran over my guy. Has he ever gotten a Technical? I would of lost it.

Jimmy Valvano, Pearl, Pitino have the ref's ear every time they play. Calipari to some degree does also. Cal is actually coaching up the players and getting better as the year goes on. I actually think they have a chance at the reg. season championship unless we right the ship. I don't want to be going to lexington to have to win that game to decide who wins the SEC, but stranger things have happened.

[ETGator1]

Scottie didn't have the height or length to cover McRae. In retrospect, I'd have run a box and 1 with Prather and Walker alternating on McRae. Both have the height and length to cover McRae. Slow down McRae and UF wins the game.

[tommyuf21]

Originally Posted by ETGator1

Scottie didn't have the height or length to cover McRae. In retrospect, I'd have run a box and 1 with Prather and Walker alternating on McRae. Both have the height and length to cover McRae. Slow down McRae and UF wins the game.

I was a bit suprised to see Scottie with that matchup. It would have been more in our favor if he was facing Golden.

[regurgigator]

If we do play UT again, I'd put Wilbekin right back on McRae. If he shoots/scores that well again, why....I'll...uh...eat my hat

[bullish]

McRae scored when McRae wanted to. We didn't even slow him down till late in the game when they were trying to hold us off and slowing down on offense.

The Honey Badger of college basketball. Maybe Arkansas who has some great guards with some height could do it. Yuguete if well might have slowed him down, we will probably get another chance in the SEC Tournament.

Our problems, of course injuries of which Rem says everybody has them, he is right, but I think our most glaring problem is we don't have anyone who can on the road be consistent or the moneyman when the game is on the line. That will probably be next year. A lot of NBN'ers didn't like Erv, but he wanted the ball and could shoot lights out most times. When he didn't he got vilified. Well, Boynton, Rosario, Wilbekin, Murphy are up now and have to put up or go home in almost tourney time.

Hoping for the best, people getting well and people making big shots coming down the stretch in all these remaining games of this season. Come on Kenny lets finish on a high note. I pulling for ya! Go Gators

[bullish]

On yeah, I left out MF3, he could be the money man, but as a freshman, he looks up to these older players, but I hope he get's his because he is probably the best pure shooter other than Murphy. Let's get the reg. season title, make a run at the SEC tournament title and roar into the big tournament hitting on all cylinders!