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UFreak · 02-26-2013, 11:20 PM

Playing in a tough environment against a hot team and down two key contributors. As a coach you have to call on your seniors in a case like this. Mike played pretty well and brought it.

But a disappointing performance for the two 4-year guys. They needed to play well for us to have a chance. They underperformed.

**sec1** · 02-26-2013, 11:23 PM

true....

UFreak · 02-26-2013, 11:23 PM

I say this fully understanding we played at a huge disadvantage. I'm just saying I would have liked for Murph and Boynton to have led the way in a situation like this. It's a bummer that it didn't happen

gatorcwboyfan · 02-26-2013, 11:24 PM

Agreed, if boynton and Murphy show we win. If UT would've won by 20 then we could use the injury excuse, not tonight.

xenythx · 02-26-2013, 11:24 PM

If either of them had even played an above average game, we win this game. Instead they both stunk up the joint.

TampaGatorFan · 02-26-2013, 11:25 PM

It's like they came into this game expecting to lose.

HALLGATOR · 02-26-2013, 11:26 PM

Erik had 7 points and 6 boards which is not a great game but neither is it a really bad game.
Kenny on the other hand has went AWOL in the shooting department and is my biggest worry headed into post-season play.

1bobcat · 02-26-2013, 11:28 PM

Our seniors really don't have any leadership skills IMO. They don't gather the guys together and talk to calm them down or anything like that. You either are a leader or you aren't and we really don't have any on this team, at least not vocal leaders, IMO.

gatorev12 · 02-26-2013, 11:29 PM

Murphy I can somewhat excuse since he's been logging far more minutes lately due to Young having conditioning issues and Murphy needing to play more with Yeguete out.

Boynton? He's been playing like this all season. In other games, he at least shows up on the defensive end--but today he was out of it from the start and that's entirely on him.

Poor effort tonight from both seniors though...really only Rosario can say he came to play

NorthCaptivaGator · 02-26-2013, 11:29 PM

I agree with this thread, Rosario was hot early and gave great effort all game but from the very first pass of the game Kenny was a step slow and Murphy just got abused on the boards and didn't help much on defense. I really wish those two would be more consistent.

BengermanV · 02-26-2013, 11:30 PM

Boynton is just an average offensive player. Better yet, he's having an average year after three fairly good ones. Unfortunately, he thinks he's much better than he is, and takes too many bad shots. He is close to below a 30% three point shooter and takes as many or more of them than anyone in the league.

I'm not ready to give this team up yet, but Donovan has to have a talking to with Boynton and let him know that his role on this team has to be as an elite defender, and someone who can spot up for open threes.

UFreak · 02-26-2013, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HALLGATOR

Erik had 7 points and 6 boards which is not a great game but neither is it a really bad game.
Kenny on the other hand has went AWOL in the shooting department and is my biggest worry headed into post-season play.

It was a below average game for Murphy. He needed to play above average in a situation like tonight.

UFGator05 · 02-26-2013, 11:32 PM

it was the refs fault. and injuries. and George Bush

BLING · 02-26-2013, 11:36 PM

Yeah, Murph just couldn't buy a bucket, and UT was a pretty tough matchup for him physically. He's been mostly "up" this year. So an occasional down game you can just write off (although if I recall correctly, he has basically stunk up the joint in all of our losses?).

Boynton: It's been a rough ride for him this year. So this was just another off game. I'm definitely worried at this point. We need him to show up in the post-season, but frankly we need him to show up NOW to get some confidence going. The fact that Frazier II has stepped up has been a huge saving grace for this team as far as having a RELIABLE 3 point shooter, because Boynton has been struggling as much as I remember him since his freshmen year.

InstiGATOR1 · 02-26-2013, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HALLGATOR

Erik had 7 points and 6 boards which is not a great game but neither is it a really bad game.
Kenny on the other hand has went AWOL in the shooting department and is my biggest worry headed into post-season play.

I would have liked Murphy to get the ball in the post more especially when it became clear he was not shooting well from the arc.

As for Boynton, is it really news to anyone here that UF has small guards who struggle on offense against guys the size of UTn's guards.

HALLGATOR · 02-26-2013, 11:42 PM

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As for Boynton, is it really news to anyone here that UF has small guards who struggle on offense against guys the size of UTn's guards.

That's one of the things I brought out when I first put up the game thread. It was something that, justifiably, concerned me.

UFreak · 02-26-2013, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1

I would have liked Murphy to get the ball in the post more especially when it became clear he was not shooting well from the arc.

Yup, yup, yup. The guy has a nice post game. We should go to it more often.

BLING · 02-26-2013, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BengermanV

Boynton is just an average offensive player. Better yet, he's having an average year after three fairly good ones. Unfortunately, he thinks he's much better than he is, and takes too many bad shots. He is close to below a 30% three point shooter and takes as many or more of them than anyone in the league.

I'm not ready to give this team up yet, but Donovan has to have a talking to with Boynton and let him know that his role on this team has to be as an elite defender, and someone who can spot up for open threes.

Boynton was a 40% shooter last year. For a full season where he took almost 300 3-point attempts. That's pretty damn good, and he had a fair amount of consistency last year. He really was solid last season.

This year he is 33%, which is about where he was his first two years (his freshmen year actually felt much worse than that). Unfortunately 33% is right about where it's questionable if you want a guy to be launching 3's. He didn't really take any "bad" shots tonight that I recall, so no reason to call him out today. This is a guy we NEED to figure out things or else we aren't going to be going anywhere in the tournament. We all know the shot selection at Mizzou was bad. Today it was Rosario's turn to throw up a couple of untimely bricks.

BengermanV · 02-26-2013, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BLING

Boynton was a 40% shooter last year. For a full season where he took almost 300 3-point attempts. That's pretty damn good, and he had a fair amount of consistency last year. He really was solid last season.

This year he is 33%, which is about where he was his first two years (his freshmen year actually felt much worse than that). Unfortunately 33% is right about where it's questionable if you want a guy to be launching 3's. He didn't really take any "bad" shots tonight that I recall, so no reason to call him out today. This is a guy we NEED to figure out things or else we aren't going to be going anywhere in the tournament. We all know the shot selection at Mizzou was bad. Today it was Rosario's turn to throw up a couple of untimely bricks.

You're right for the most part. But Boynton went 1-7 today, which is pretty horrendous. Only a couple of them were bad decisions. He needs to know when it's just not his game, and making the extra pass is a better decision than jacking up the shot.

I also disagree with the idea that we need Boynton. Frazier is a better shooter and rebounder. Boyton has started slacking off on the defensive end as well. Of course, with all of our injuries we needed him to perform tonight. But he has been below average all year and this team has still done pretty damn well. When he is focuesed on defense and winning games, he is our best player. When he's not (and he hasn't been lately, it seems like), I'd rather have Frazier in there. I don't think we need him as much as you might think.

HALLGATOR · 02-27-2013, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BLING

Boynton was a 40% shooter last year. For a full season where he took almost 300 3-point attempts. That's pretty damn good, and he had a fair amount of consistency last year. He really was solid last season.

This year he is 33%, which is about where he was his first two years (his freshmen year actually felt much worse than that). Unfortunately 33% is right about where it's questionable if you want a guy to be launching 3's. He didn't really take any "bad" shots tonight that I recall, so no reason to call him out today. This is a guy we NEED to figure out things or else we aren't going to be going anywhere in the tournament. We all know the shot selection at Mizzou was bad. Today it was Rosario's turn to throw up a couple of untimely bricks.

The problem is 33% doesn't really tell the story. Over the last 6 games he is 10-39 from behind the arc which is just a tad better than 25%.