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02-26-2013, 02:26 PM
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10,000 Illegal Immigrants To Be Released
To hell with the safety of the American people anything for obama and the liberal Dem to buy votes
"Clearly, serious criminals are being released to the streets of our local communities by this mass budget pardon. These are illegals that even President Obama wants to deport. This is insane that public safety is sacrificed when it should be the budget priority that's safeguarded," he said.
Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu said Tuesday that Immigration and Customs Enforcement released more than 500 detainees in his county alone over the weekend. A spokesman for Babeu told FoxNews.com that ICE officials have said they plan to release a total of nearly 10,000 illegal immigrants. "
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2M2EEPlvx
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02-26-2013, 03:10 PM
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You do realize deportations are at a record level, right? They really don't have the ability to deport people fast enough, so releasing low priority offenders seems like the only option unless you want to increase spending by hiring more gov't workers to accommodate processing every single one of these people.
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02-26-2013, 03:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wgbgator
You do realize deportations are at a record level, right? They really don't have the ability to deport people fast enough, so releasing low priority offenders seems like the only option unless you want to increase spending by hiring more gov't workers to accommodate processing every single one of these people.
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"Clearly, serious criminals are being released to the streets of our local communities by this mass budget pardon. These are illegals that even President Obama wants to deport. This is insane that public safety is sacrificed when it should be the budget priority that's safeguarded," he said.
Read more: http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas...#ixzz2M2Wyb6Kk
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02-26-2013, 03:59 PM
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According to a different source, serious criminals are not being released.
[quote]U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the agency that runs the detention facilities, said that with both sequesters and the annual spending bills looming, officials have tried to find places to cut, and releasing low-priority immigrants is one of those ways.
"Over the last week, ICE has reviewed several hundred cases and placed these individuals on methods of supervision less costly than detention," ICE said in a statement. "All of these individuals remain in removal proceedings. Priority for detention remains on serious criminal offenders and other individuals who pose a significant threat to public safety."
So whom are we to believe? A source directly from ICE or a Paul Babeu, Pinal County (non border county in Arizona) Sheriff and understudy to Joe Arpaio? Interesting dilemma for some, because either way, you have to trust a government official!
Regardless, I agree with the following:
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"Low-priority individuals — people who pose absolutely no risk or danger to society, but rather are upstanding members of their communities and families — should not have been locked up to begin with," said Carolina Canizales, coordinator of United We Dream’s End Our Pain program.
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I'd much rather have us collect taxes in the form of guest worker visas from these people, rather than have to spend Federal money on detaining them.
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02-26-2013, 04:54 PM
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I am all for releasing them... at the airport, or at the border. I am sorry, but how is releasing known and established illegal aliens (the factually correct term for an alien to one's country there in violation of law) to continued residency anything but an abdication of lawful duty?
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02-26-2013, 05:04 PM
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So why are we releasing illegal immigrants instead of our own citizens that are in there for lesser crimes? It sounds like we are releasing illegal aliens that could be arrested again the minute they get pulled over for a traffic stop because they are still an illegal alien.
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02-26-2013, 10:00 PM
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[quote=AzCatFan;6434949]According to a different source, serious criminals are not being released.
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U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the agency that runs the detention facilities, said that with both sequesters and the annual spending bills looming, officials have tried to find places to cut, and releasing low-priority immigrants is one of those ways.
"Over the last week, ICE has reviewed several hundred cases and placed these individuals on methods of supervision less costly than detention," ICE said in a statement. "All of these individuals remain in removal proceedings. Priority for detention remains on serious criminal offenders and other individuals who pose a significant threat to public safety."
So whom are we to believe? A source directly from ICE or a Paul Babeu, Pinal County (non border county in Arizona) Sheriff and understudy to Joe Arpaio? Interesting dilemma for some, because either way, you have to trust a government official!
Regardless, I agree with the following:
I'd much rather have us collect taxes in the form of guest worker visas from these people, rather than have to spend Federal money on detaining them.
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Exactly.
Even the op's link says it:
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"Over the last week, ICE has reviewed several hundred cases and placed these individuals on methods of supervision less costly than detention," she said. "All of these individuals remain in removal proceedings. Priority for detention remains on serious criminal offenders and other individuals who pose a significant threat to public safety."
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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2M9u2NQQ3
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02-26-2013, 10:41 PM
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[quote=AzCatFan;6434949]According to a different source, serious criminals are not being released.
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U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the agency that runs the detention facilities, said that with both sequesters and the annual spending bills looming, officials have tried to find places to cut, and releasing low-priority immigrants is one of those ways.
"Over the last week, ICE has reviewed several hundred cases and placed these individuals on methods of supervision less costly than detention," ICE said in a statement. "All of these individuals remain in removal proceedings. Priority for detention remains on serious criminal offenders and other individuals who pose a significant threat to public safety."
So whom are we to believe? A source directly from ICE or a Paul Babeu, Pinal County (non border county in Arizona) Sheriff and understudy to Joe Arpaio? Interesting dilemma for some, because either way, you have to trust a government official!
Regardless, I agree with the following:
I'd much rather have us collect taxes in the form of guest worker visas from these people, rather than have to spend Federal money on detaining them.
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Collecting taxes You have to be joking
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02-27-2013, 12:13 AM
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Why must I be joking? The overwhelming majority of undocumented immigrants come to work. They generally stay out of trouble. They send billions a year back home. Give them the opportunity to pay a Visa and stay here legally, many would take the opportunity, and we'd be collecting taxes from the immigrants instead of spending it. Why is that so far fetched?
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02-27-2013, 12:20 AM
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so letting illegal people out of jail is okay but allowing Americans to own something they're completely legal to own is wrong?
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02-27-2013, 02:02 PM
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Forgetting the gun rights hi-jack attempt, I'm still curious why die think I was joking that for immigrants here that are working and staying out of trouble, it would be better to collect Visa taxes from them rather than spend money on detention and deportation.
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02-27-2013, 02:04 PM
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I say the whole story is B.S. and was started by the administration
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02-27-2013, 02:07 PM
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As always, the government complicates very simple things.
Put them on buses and drop them across the border. This can be done all day, every day.
Border enforcement is a basic constitutional responsibility of the federal govt. Most of the things they want to keep spending money on are not.
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02-27-2013, 02:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wygator
As always, the government complicates very simple things.
Put them on buses and drop them across the border. This can be done all day, every day.
Border enforcement is a basic constitutional responsibility of the federal govt. Most of the things they want to keep spending money on are not.
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But it's not so simple. First, all people are owed their due process. That means spending money on incarceration while a person's immigration status is determined. Secondly, there are transportation costs. The Pinal County Jail is in Casa Grande, about 2 hours to the closest border. Last but not least, of course, patrolling our nearly 2,000 mile border with Mexico is not easy, especially considering much of the terrain is passable only on foot or horseback. This means there is a good chance that any immigrant we dropped off would likely find his or her way back on this side!
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02-27-2013, 02:26 PM
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These inmates are being released so Obama can stand at the pulpit and yell, "LOOK WHAT THE GOP JUST DID BY ALLOWING THE BUDGET CUTS!" The only problem with that is that he did it prior to any cuts. I am sure that his MSM followers and worshipers will run fast and hard with Obie's message to make sure that the truth doesn't get in the way of his message.
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02-27-2013, 02:54 PM
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This whole thing is illusion and manipulation and people are falling for hook line and sinker
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02-27-2013, 03:23 PM
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Don't understand how this goes with the whole defending the constitution and laws of the country oath.
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02-27-2013, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by G8trGr8t
Don't understand how this goes with the whole defending the constitution and laws of the country oath.
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you think this violates the constitution?
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02-27-2013, 03:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rivergator
you think this violates the constitution?
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What is the President of the United States first priority?
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02-27-2013, 03:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AzCatFan
Why must I be joking? The overwhelming majority of undocumented immigrants come to work. They generally stay out of trouble. They send billions a year back home. Give them the opportunity to pay a Visa and stay here legally, many would take the opportunity, and we'd be collecting taxes from the immigrants instead of spending it. Why is that so far fetched?
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No one in that pay scale will pay any income tax Heck 48% of legal Americans pay no income tax But they will still reap the benefits of food stamps as they getting large income tax refunds for child care credits.
"IRS Gives Billions in Tax Refunds to Illegals
Chuck Norris
Chuck Norris
May 22, 2012
Click if you like this column!
IRS Gives Billions in Tax Refunds to Illegals
WTHR, the NBC affiliate in Indianapolis, recently reported about how millions of illegal aliens are getting billions of dollars in U.S. tax refunds without having paid a dime in income taxes. The story instantly went viral because it's true. You won't believe what illegals are getting away with, and our government is enabling them.
Here's how it works.
Illegal immigrants cannot qualify for legitimate Social Security numbers, which would entitle them to work legally in the U.S. and file income tax returns, but the Internal Revenue Service allows them to apply for nine-digit individual taxpayer identification numbers, or ITINs, which also are used to file federal income tax returns."
http://townhall.com/columnists/chuck...als/page/full/
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