Espn Article on SEC teams that can unseat BAma

[lurkingator1]

Originally Posted by whitelakegator

Listen, I'm sure you are a great poster and a great Gator but it really bothers me when the "we won 11 games" card is thrown out every time someone makes an observation.

The offense stunk for most of the year. Triple digit offense at a major conference school is unacceptable regardless of how many wins we gained.

If you read all of my post you will see that I did not just Say Well won 11 games, I said we lacked a lot to be desired on offense, and this was not the style of offense the staff wants to play but we lacked key players a certain positions. Getting Demarkus Robinson In for the Spring was huge you will see a much better offense next year anyway that's my story and I am sticking to it!

[TheGator]

Does Florida still play in the SEC?

[kalaniocc]

the only thing related to florida in the article was mike gillislee's name in a list of unknowns at the beginning of last season.

[gatorpa]

Originally Posted by your_perfect_enemy

Am I the only one who remembers that we beat a&m in college station?

And CRUSHED USCe and Fsu in Tally.

[whitelakegator]

Originally Posted by lurkingator1

If you read all of my post you will see that I did not just Say Well won 11 games, I said we lacked a lot to be desired on offense, and this was not the style of offense the staff wants to play but we lacked key players a certain positions. Getting Demarkus Robinson In for the Spring was huge you will see a much better offense next year anyway that's my story and I am sticking to it!

"Although our Offense was boring and bland we found ways to win 11 games"

Seems like a variance of what I was saying. No worries and I hope you are right.

[DieAGator]

Could we get a few more Bama thread going please.

[garygator]

That article is tooo funny. It mentions 11 of the 14 SEC schools. Of the 3 teams not worth mentioning, one finished the regular season number 3 in the nation and followed with a top three recruting class, along with Mississippi State and Mizzou.

[GatorSean]

1. Florida
2. LSU
3. A&M
4. uga

[GatorJaws]

I LOVE IT!!!!

[G8RNTN]

Originally Posted by socraticsilence

Its an interesting question- we won 11 games but a lot of them were very close and we got so much turnover luck that it could be hard to repeat. Its also a byproduct of media hype- people hype up high-scoring offenses, or teams with good offenses and dominant defenses, no ones ever been as good as we were last year with an offense as bad as ours was, no ones even been close- defense might win championships but offense helps-- we need to improve to at least the level LSU was at in 2011 to contend and that's if our defense is as good as it was last year.

Turnover luck??????? There is a reason we caused so many turnovers!

[socraticsilence]

Originally Posted by G8RNTN

Turnover luck??????? There is a reason we caused so many turnovers!

Picks I largely agree with fumbles, namely fumble recoveries have a high season to season and game to game variance- unless you think UGA just played amazing defense and forced a ton of fumbles by us because no one else hit us that hard.

That's the real downside of our offensive style (besides being horrible to watch) it leaves little to no margin for error if things start going badly- we didn't win a game last year where we had more than a -1 turnover margin maybe even where we didn't win or tie the turnover margin, teams with more prolific attacks; even ground based teams like Oregon can overcome a few miscues where as if we have a false start or a hold the drive is over; more turnovers than we force, the game is over.

Teams that won titles that had defensively led squads all had highly efficient offenses that were better than people remember (with the exception of 2001 OSU), for example the 2006 offense which a lot of people remember as a unit that barely got out of its own way- was more than 75 spots better than last years unit and scored more than 20 more offensive TDs.

[gatorzguy28]

When you talk of beating Alabama, there is one thing they all have in common: true dual threat, up-tempo, spread style offense. Tebow, Newton, Shaw, Manziel all beat Alabama with their dual threat nature taking advantage of openings in the defense. If the idea behind the spread is correct, that a defense cannot play 11 on 11 football for all 4 qtrs, then that explains what you need to beat Alabama. LSU has also beaten them but they use a more traditional offense with some multiple sets in it. Ole Miss, under their new coach runs this style of offense. And with his recruiting prowess (or bank account), he landed some key pieces to that offense. I hope Ole Miss comes alive. Bama needs someone else to give them some competition.

As for Low's article, he is a UT guy....what do we expect? The reality is that if our defense plays the way it did during all but the bowl game, we can beat anyone. If we get the Boise-esque offense we are hoping for, especially where Jeff feels comfort in the pocket and confident to make his throws to a WR who actually separates from time to time, then we will be better and that gives us the ability to beat anyone anytime. Right now we don't have that. All doubt goes away once we get back to passing the ball well.
Keep in mind that UGA only put 19 pts on us and put like 28 on Bama. I think our defense was honestly better, but our O kept giving the ball up. Six turnovers in one game and you should lose it.

[gatordee]

I am more than happy to fly under the radar right now. And yes, we lost some great defensive talent. However, we have some great talent ready to step in and make a name for themselves. Also, I am looking forward to a 2nd year under Peace with JD having a full season under his belt now. If we can get through the 1st 3-4 games without a scratch, look out!

[regurgigator]

Originally Posted by socraticsilence

Picks I largely agree with fumbles, namely fumble recoveries have a high season to season and game to game variance- unless you think UGA just played amazing defense and forced a ton of fumbles by us because no one else hit us that hard.

That's the real downside of our offensive style (besides being horrible to watch) it leaves little to no margin for error if things start going badly- we didn't win a game last year where we had more than a -1 turnover margin maybe even where we didn't win or tie the turnover margin, teams with more prolific attacks; even ground based teams like Oregon can overcome a few miscues where as if we have a false start or a hold the drive is over; more turnovers than we force, the game is over.

Teams that won titles that had defensively led squads all had highly efficient offenses that were better than people remember (with the exception of 2001 OSU), for example the 2006 offense which a lot of people remember as a unit that barely got out of its own way- was more than 75 spots better than last years unit and scored more than 20 more offensive TDs.

The idea that UGA just played amazing defense against us is exactly what I think. We had a couple of what I would call giveaways. But, outstanding defensive play by UGA was directly responsible for the 4 "takeaways".

And, we must have had a little room for error, as we were 2 yards and a 2-point conversion away from tying the game after already turning the ball over 5 times. It took a 6th turnover on another great defensive play by UGA to stop that threat.

[regurgigator]

Originally Posted by whitelakegator

Listen, I'm sure you are a great poster and a great Gator but it really bothers me when the "we won 11 games" card is thrown out every time someone makes an observation.

The offense stunk for most of the year. Triple digit offense at a major conference school is unacceptable regardless of how many wins we gained.

It bothers me when so many of our fans think it's more important how one phase of our team played than in whether we won the games!!!

We had a great season by any standard, winning 11 games against the toughest schedule in the country. Winning 11 games against that schedule would have been a great season if we had won every game 2-0.

The Louisville game was an anomaly that many of us predicted had a good chance of happening when that dung-pile of a bowl match-up was announced. I don't care what kind of significance most of the national media put on it

[dadx4]

All we have to do is get that antler spray.

[socraticsilence]

Originally Posted by regurgigator

It bothers me when so many of our fans think it's more important how one phase of our team played than in whether we won the games!!!

We had a great season by any standard, winning 11 games against the toughest schedule in the country. Winning 11 games against that schedule would have been a great season if we had won every game 2-0.

The Louisville game was an anomaly that many of us predicted had a good chance of happening when that dung-pile of a bowl match-up was announced. I don't care what kind of significance most of the national media put on it

I'm happy we won 11 games, but I also think its incredibly misleading to pretend we were one of the say 5 best teams in America at the end of the year-- we had a ton of breaks fall our way where just one or two plays going differently would've made us a 8 or 9 win team-- a big improvement no doubt but not a true national title contending team. Perhaps a better way to put it in perspective is to ask if last seasons team stays close with either the 96 or 08 team? People brought up a parallel to 2006, but our 2006 was worlds better offensively-- the 2006 team was closer to the 2008 offense or the 1996 offense than it was to the 2012 offense, the gap was that big.

We entered the bowl season with one loss and zero ties just as we did in 2009,2008,2006, and 1996 but does anyone really think last years team was close to any of those squads?

[GATORAZ]

Originally Posted by whitelakegator

Bottom line, we aren't winning anything until JD shows up. No one is going to jump on the Gator bandwagon until then.

(crossing fingers)

This post doesnt make sense. We won 11 games last year

[GATORAZ]

In all seriousness I like our chances next year and the year after.

Florida will have the best Dline in the league next year. The Oline will also be much improved. If Matt Jones continues to improve and play up to his athletic ability he will be better than Gillie. The one major problem we had last year was no vertical threat adding Purfioy and D Rob should solve that problem.

The two major question marks are LB and Safety. I am pretty worried about the LB core these freshmen are going to have to step up. I have a lot of faith in whomever wins the safety job since the competition is so high there.

[whitelakegator]

Originally Posted by GATORAZ

This post doesnt make sense. We won 11 games last year

Hmmm. I think it is a waste of time to argue with fellow Gators.

How's this for "sense"...when I say "anything" it means the SEC or MNC. Heck, I'll even take representing the East as "anything".

Here comes the "we won 11 games" crowd and the last game doesn't mean a thing crowd.