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Old 02-26-2013, 09:40 AM   #1
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Default GOP likely to get blame regarding spending cuts.

They pretty much get blamed for everything and even though Obama flat out refuses to meet with memebers of Congress the MSM will spin it in Obama's favor like normal. My question to those who support Obama's economic policies of tax and spend without reducing the deficit - do you really think this path is sustainable? If the Dems take over in 2014 you can rest assured that taxing and spending will increase even moreso taking us into a dangerous pathway.

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Old 02-26-2013, 09:50 AM   #2
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When the GOP hollars from the rooftops for cuts......gotta own it.
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:03 AM   #3
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If the GOP was serious about deficit reduction, they'd put revenue on the table. But they arent, and they're going to get blamed if the sequester goes down because they keep trying to push these fake showdowns to force big cuts to entitlements, that they want Democrats to put forward, rather than themselves, because they don't want the blame.
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:13 AM   #4
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It's not just the media's fault. The majority of the American people don't want ANYTHING cut.
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It's not just the media's fault. The majority of the American people don't want ANYTHING cut.
Yep, it is all about the polling data. If the voter types want their stuff, no way they go down on a principle.
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:27 AM   #6
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Let it get cut, perhaps then we'll see how much we don't need the Gov to redistribute.
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This whole issue calls the GOP's bluff. If people end up feeling the pain for the cuts they are always calling for, they will get walloped at the ballot box.
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How can the GOP go about making cuts if they don't make cuts? And if there goal is to make cuts why should it bother anyone if they are blamed for the same? Seems to me you can't have it both ways.
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How can the GOP go about making cuts if they don't make cuts? And if there goal is to make cuts why should it bother anyone if they are blamed for the same? Seems to me you can't have it both ways.
Paul Ryan recently acknowledged that the GOP plan would have reduced food stamp increase from 270% to 260%. This only serves to underscore how corrupt Americans have become. I only wish that Americans in general would rise to the level of the politicians they empower.
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This whole issue calls the GOP's bluff. If people end up feeling the pain for the cuts they are always calling for, they will get walloped at the ballot box.
They are. Americans are breathing the threat: "You just go ahead and see what happens if you reduce the rate of food stamps growth from 270% to 260%. Just try it, Buster!"
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Does anyone here think the current rate of spending is sustainable?
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Does anyone here think the current rate of spending is sustainable?
I really don't think most Americans are concerned about this. Their voting habits suggest they're lying about expressed concerns for future generations.
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When the GOP hollars from the rooftops for cuts......gotta own it.
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When the GOP hollars from the rooftops for cuts......gotta own it.
I would proudly own it and anyone with any moral decency would own it because its the right thing to do.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:33 PM   #17
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If the GOP was serious about deficit reduction, they'd put revenue on the table. But they arent, and they're going to get blamed if the sequester goes down because they keep trying to push these fake showdowns to force big cuts to entitlements, that they want Democrats to put forward, rather than themselves, because they don't want the blame.
Am I crazy or didn't they already cave in this a month ago. Oh, my bad. Like his brother GWB, he views anything short of his wishes as "obstructionist."

Fitting if you ask me.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:35 PM   #18
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There just aren't any easy answers to our fiscal budget crisis. If you continue because you didn't ask the proper questions to the general public (ie. you were disingenuous) when you were adding services and now people believe that they deserve them then we will eventually run out of money. But if you make hard choices and make cuts then the people who are hooked on the stuff begin on a path of civil unrest, including theft, armed or mass.

I still say we are ready to go to Plan C, which is acquiesce to the masses but "acquire" new resources from renegade countries who "need our help." We just need to work on a good angle so that we are looked upon as liberators and not confiscators. Mexico, here we come!
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When the GOP hollars from the rooftops for cuts......gotta own it.
but these are all defense cuts.....which the democrats all say that they want.


so, why should they have any issues owning it?
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If the GOP was serious about deficit reduction, they'd put revenue on the table.
They already did that when they agreed to the tax hikes last December?

Most conservative and libertarian people on this board warned that the tax hikes agreed to last December and implemented after the first of the year to avoid the so called "fiscal cliff" were just a beginning. That there would more.

I will ask you the same question I asked at that time; if repealing ALL the Bush tax cuts was on the table, would you support that? For every level of taxpayer?

Further, would you support the notion that we would go back to inflation adjusted government spending levels at the time of the Bush tax cuts? Almost ACROSS THE BOARD?

(I say almost becasue some spending increases cannot be avoided. Mostly interest payments.)
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