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Old 02-26-2013, 10:43 AM   #141
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Bostic is getting railed here for some reason. He was a solid LB and have a great senior season. He's going to be even better in the pros. He fits perfect inside in the 3-4. Floyd, Elam, and Bostic will all be great at the next level. I think Jelani will be a situational player. He's got great speed and athleticism but he's undersized. I could see him as a rush-backer or in coverage situations. I'm not as high on Reed as some others. He's athletic and has potential but I don't think he runs great routes and he doesn't have the best hands. I like a lot of TEs in this draft more than Reed.
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Florida will be hurting at mlb for 2013. Its probably the weakest position on the defense heading into 2013 on D. UF will certainly miss bostic and jenkins. I promise.
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Yeah that's not what I meant.
It's okay, man. You got duped. If you really thought I was stupid enough to think that Jessies and Joes applied to schematics and coaching, then I apologize for putting more effort into that than I probably should've. It's not a big deal.

As for Bostic: Regardless of what the stats say, he was not the playmaker in the middle that Spikes and Siler were. Those two were key pieces of championship teams, and they both made game-changing plays that seemed to set the tone for big games. I'm sure there is a poster or two who will argue that he was, that he'll be missed, and that we're in big trouble at the MLB position, but I think Morrison will do well there with about 10-15 extra lbs of added weight in the offseason.

Jenkins, on the other hand, missed half the season. Our defense was fantastic against A&M without him, and I think we've got options to fill in for both he and Bostic. Defensive tackle is a different story...
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I won't be surprised if he becomes lightning to Jones' thunder.
What's funny, is you can do this in almost any thread. With pretty much any topic. And three or four of them won't ever realize...it's all just an act.

I've gotta give it time to cool off. Stay tuned, as I've got some good ones planned for the coming months.
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It's okay, man. You got duped. If you really thought I was stupid enough to think that Jessies and Joes applied to schematics and coaching, then I apologize for putting more effort into that than I probably should've. It's not a big deal.

As for Bostic: Regardless of what the stats say, he was not the playmaker in the middle that Spikes and Siler were. Those two were key pieces of championship teams, and they both made game-changing plays that seemed to set the tone for big games. I'm sure there is a poster or two who will argue that he was, that he'll be missed, and that we're in big trouble at the MLB position, but I think Morrison will do well there with about 10-15 extra lbs of added weight in the offseason.

Jenkins, on the other hand, missed half the season. Our defense was fantastic against A&M without him, and I think we've got options to fill in for both he and Bostic. Defensive tackle is a different story...
Saying who was an who wasn't a playmaker is a matter of opinion really. The stats would back up Bostic was just as big of a playmaker as Spikes. Look how good are defense was this year Bostic was the leader of that unit .

The options on the Dline are much better than the options at LB IMO. Morrison has still yet to add that weight needed and who is behind him. Who is going to cover as good as Jenkins at LB?
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Saying who was an who wasn't a playmaker is a matter of opinion really. The stats would back up Bostic was just as big of a playmaker as Spikes. Look how good are defense was this year Bostic was the leader of that unit .

The options on the Dline are much better than the options at LB IMO. Morrison has still yet to add that weight needed and who is behind him. Who is going to cover as good as Jenkins at LB?
You're right. We're completely screwed at linebacker.
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You're right. We're completely screwed at linebacker.
I never said we were screwed at LB it is just an unknown and very young.
The Dline however a known and it should be one of the best units in the country.
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I never said we were screwed at LB it is just an unknown and very young.
The Dline however a known and it should be one of the best units in the country.
What about your boy, Jeremi Powell? Aren't you always barkin' about how much the staff raves about his ability? Isn't he an option on the weakside, a position that requires a player to be at least competent in coverage? Is it inconceivable to think that maybe McMillian and/or Anzalone might just be good enough-particularly being EEs-to at least contribute in the middle? All of our LBs can run.

I'm not sold that our defensive line will be "the best in the SEC" after losing two NFL defensive tackles. I've never heard such a bold statement. Leon Orr has had one good game (where he recorded a whopping four tackles) against Kentucky in his career. Nobody knows how good Cummings and Reed will be. Jacobs did little more than provide depth. Our best defensive tackle (Diesel Dom) spent a good part of last season at end. But maybe I'm missing something.
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What about your boy, Jeremi Powell? Aren't you always barkin' about how much the staff raves about his ability? Isn't he an option on the weakside, a position that requires a player to be at least competent in coverage? Is it inconceivable to think that maybe McMillian and/or Anzalone might just be good enough-particularly being EEs-to at least contribute in the middle? All of our LBs can run.

I'm not sold that our defensive line will be "the best in the SEC" after losing two NFL defensive tackles. I've never heard such a bold statement. Leon Orr has had one good game (where he recorded a whopping four tackles) against Kentucky in his career. Nobody knows how good Cummings and Reed will be. Jacobs did little more than provide depth. Our best defensive tackle (Diesel Dom) spent a good part of last season at end. But maybe I'm missing something.
LB- We are going to start a true sophomore in the middle that even if he gains 10lbs is too lite for the position. Last year he was out of position a lot, he was just running around. I expect him to be much better this year but the weight thing is still a problem. His back up Taylor cant cover period.

The other LB will be Neron Ball replacing Jenkins. Ball has a ton of talent but still getting back from a tragic injury. Ball got torched in coverage vs Louisville.

Who are those guys back ups? J powell who needs to add weight and two freshmen one of which played football in Pennsylvania and has terrible tackle form (he will be great in coverage). I love their potential but that is a lot of question marks.


DL- Bullard will start at SSDE he played well last year getting on campus late he will be a stud next year. At the BUCK we have Fowler and Ropo when he is ready, Mccalister if his weight is up (J powell situation)

DT- Easley Orr Jacobs all played well last year. Orr should def be able to replace Hunter and Easley is not FLoyd but he is a nice replacement. Jacobs was more than serviceable. IMO both Cummings and Reed are better players coming out of JUCO than Jacobs. Lets not forget Q Williams should be ready to contribute. The real unknown is EE Ivey who is already up to 267.

Nobody in the SEC has a better combination of talent that has played plus JUCO players on the Dline than Florida.

LB's we are relying on youth and the Dline we are relying on upperclassmen
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So basically,,,Jenkins and Bostic will be missed but Shariff and Hunter wont be......riiiiggghhht.

We know Easley is good..Jacobs played well as a backup. Again as a backup...but he has to step up his game to match what Hunter did....Orr hasnt impressed me at all at this point.
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LB- We are going to start a true sophomore in the middle that even if he gains 10lbs is too lite for the position. Last year he was out of position a lot, he was just running around. I expect him to be much better this year but the weight thing is still a problem. His back up Taylor cant cover period.

The other LB will be Neron Ball replacing Jenkins. Ball has a ton of talent but still getting back from a tragic injury. Ball got torched in coverage vs Louisville.

Who are those guys back ups? J powell who needs to add weight and two freshmen one of which played football in Pennsylvania and has terrible tackle form (he will be great in coverage). I love their potential but that is a lot of question marks.


DL- Bullard will start at SSDE he played well last year getting on campus late he will be a stud next year. At the BUCK we have Fowler and Ropo when he is ready, Mccalister if his weight is up (J powell situation)

DT- Easley Orr Jacobs all played well last year. Orr should def be able to replace Hunter and Easley is not FLoyd but he is a nice replacement. Jacobs was more than serviceable. IMO both Cummings and Reed are better players coming out of JUCO than Jacobs. Lets not forget Q Williams should be ready to contribute. The real unknown is EE Ivey who is already up to 267.


Nobody in the SEC has a better combination of talent that has played plus JUCO players on the Dline than Florida.

LB's we are relying on youth and the Dline we are relying on upperclassmen
My friend, it sounds like you're banking on a whole lot of upside to translate into production. The casual SEC fan (who doesn't follow recruiting) has probably never heard of Bullard. He played well, but wasn't lights out as a freshman. Orr has done nothing up to this point in his career. I think you are exaggerating the impact Jacobs had, and we have no idea how good Cummings and Reed are. The casual SEC fan may have heard about Easley, but he hasn't been anywhere near as good as Floyd has been, and he's been inconsistent at times in big games.

The upside is there, but keep in mind that Georgia, LSU, 'Bama, South Carolina, etc...have all recruited extremely well across the Dline. Carolina actually returns Quarles and Clowney, two extremely good, extremely proven players. Whoever does the best job of developing their talent this offseason will field the best defensive line. It's not like other schools don't have high-profile recruits "waiting in the wings".

Ball is actually a SAM 'backer, who is more seasoned as a pass rusher than as a pure linebacker. The kid was back last year after missing an entire season due to injury. He actually was listed as a DE coming out of high school, so he's still grasping the position. I doubt he-like Mike Taylor-has yet to even start to come into his own as a LB. You keep bashing these kids' pass coverage skills, and are acting like players don't develop over the course of a four-five year career. You know, players can get better in certain aspects of the game.
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I dont care about the casual SEC fan thinks. Easley played well as a sophomore inside and played his best game at in the bowl game once he was healthy Do you realize what those other teams lost last year on the Dline? What about their depth?

I am not over estimating how Orr and Jacobs played last year they gave quality snaps thats what you want out of your back ups.

Bullard was first team all freshmen SEC Bullard played starters snaps on one of the best Dlines in the country last year without going through a year of S & C.

I know what Ball played last year. Quinn said that Ball was changing positions before he left. If Ball isnt changing positions then we are relying on a freshmen to start a LB in the SEC. You think that is better than a bunch of veterans on the Dline?

You think Taylor is going to miraculously get better in coverage? He is stiff and just bad in space.
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Maybe we play a lot of 4-2-5 if we are stack at DB and not so much at LB.
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Maybe we play a lot of 4-2-5 if we are stack at DB and not so much at LB.

I've actually said that before. Anyway, we're in the nickel 70% of the time. When a fifth DB takes the field, you generally leave your MLB and the SAM (to help in run support) on the field, along with the nickel. The bigger question might be who will be the fifth DB.

Muschamp wants safeties who are big and physical enough to play in the box, and be a factor against the run. Much like Elam was, I think guys like Ledbetter, Maye, Neal and Harris can give you that. Elam was more effective in the box, against the run, than a lot of linebackers were. He was also good at blitzing.

Our supposed problems at linebacker really aren't that big of a deal, when you factor in what we like to defensively. This staff will continue to play to its personnel.
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Maybe we play a lot of 4-2-5 if we are stack at DB and not so much at LB.
We do play a lot of nickle. Thats what formation I was thinking of the whole discussion. The LB position is still a unknown.
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I dont care about the casual SEC fan thinks. Easley played well as a sophomore inside and played his best game at in the bowl game once he was healthy Do you realize what those other teams lost last year on the Dline? What about their depth?

I am not over estimating how Orr and Jacobs played last year they gave quality snaps thats what you want out of your back ups.

Bullard was first team all freshmen SEC Bullard played starters snaps on one of the best Dlines in the country last year without going through a year of S & C.

I know what Ball played last year. Quinn said that Ball was changing positions before he left. If Ball isnt changing positions then we are relying on a freshmen to start a LB in the SEC. You think that is better than a bunch of veterans on the Dline?

You think Taylor is going to miraculously get better in coverage? He is stiff and just bad in space.
I'm worried about youth & inexperience in the middle - DT => LB => S. Of those positions, DT has the most returning. I don't want to rely too much on the JuCo guys, but I don't think they will.

I'll disagree a bit on Orr. He was an effective part of the rotation. Easley can be dominant if/when he is absolutely healed & confident with his crazy fast first step. He's not unlike RayMac at this point of his career - superb in spots but inconsistent. I don't think it's at all a stretch to expect a memorable year from him and a solid DT rotation.

Safety? Goodness I have to think there will be 2-4 guys who will step up and step in. Will any be as crazy good as Elam? Maybe, but you can't get experience except by getting experience.

LB is the big question. Whoever steps in.
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