It Finally Hit Me: Barack Obama Will Never Be Held Responsible for Anything

[108]

Originally Posted by 92gator

^^^ (follow up to my prior post)--did you forget:

"...its unpatriotic!" re. bush's 435 Billion dollar deficit...

vs. 4 consecutive years of > TRILLION DOLLAR ANNUAL DEFICITS.

did you forget that by the time Obama took office the deficit was already over a trillion? did you forget what ensues after a recession and a massive one at that? hmm deficits go up don't they

this year it will be back under a trillion and going down

[g8orbill]

the left loves how prezbo is destroying this country and that he is taking it to the makers and giving it to the takers-they will never find fault with the ........

[fredsanford]

Originally Posted by g8orbill

the left loves how prezbo is destroying this country and that he is taking it to the makers and giving it to the takers-they will never find fault with the ........

He's not destroying anything. He's repairing pub damage and trying to stave off more.

[DieAGator]

Originally Posted by 108

did you forget that by the time Obama took office the deficit was already over a trillion?

this year it will be back under a trillion and going down

Nonetheless, Obama's done nothing but create additional debt. Shall I post the video of your President harshly criticizing Bush for borrowing on the "bank of China credit card"? You're letting your President off the hook, why? What do we have to show for this man's spending? This country is NOT going to be better off for this asshat President's inability to balance a checkbook. If this were Bush or any other Republican you and yours would be furious. What's wrong with people like you? Serious question.

[gatormoe1]

Originally Posted by 108

its really unfortunate for you victims to know that a good bit of this country understands he was not at fault for the economic calamity he inherited, nor thinking he could magically fix it

what to speak of the wars

How long will you keep playing that same old song?

He has done NOTHING to fix it. Stop apologizing over and over for a completely inept president. It's really getting old.

[G8trGr8t]

Originally Posted by 108

it doesn't matter does it....its just what one believes


is he responsible for the crash?

is he responsible for the tremendous debt he inherited?

is he responsible for the debt created after the crash to soften the blow that all presidents have taken previously?

is he responsible for the wars?

is he responsible for the sky rocketing health care prices of the last decade or so?

is he responsible for the rising costs of education?



i'll tell you who is more responsible than any president, and its us....its us who allowed wars and debt, and Gov being in bed with the banks and looking the other way while they loot the country...its us who allows our healthcare system to not have any costs controls....and its us who allows our elected officials to be bought and sold to the highest bidder in the name of "free speech"

we deserve who we elect

I will take that as a no.

crash. no not his responsibility. failure to adress the too big to fail problem and only increase the magnitude by regulations and laws that favor bigger companies over small to midsize companies is his fault.

debt to soften the crash. yes it is his fault that the debt was incurred and it will produce no long term benefit. that debt could have been improving ports, building nat gas infrastructure and fueling stations and changing big rigs to use our own resources but instead we get lifetime unemployment benefits, blowout numbers of people being approved for permanent disability, massive increases of food stamp recipients, no real tax reform because he would not compromise, bankrupt solar and wind companies with his buddies cashing out along the way...I could go on but the debt incurred has not been invested to produce a return, it has been squandered and wasted with little to nothing to show for it. debt incurred at low levels and properly invested to produce long term gains in excess of the cost of capital can be a good thing but debt incurred so the CEO can throw a party is a bad thing. the total misappropriation of capital from the debt is squarely on his desk.

wars. no not his. no more than the dotcom bubble was bush's. inability to reign in the MIC is his. It takes leadership and compromsie to control spending. 0 has demonstrated neither.

And yes we are responsible for putting this administration and his the democratic controlled senate into powere and keeping them in power. SO this piss ant no growth continually inflating dollar depreciating chronic unemployment gubmnt dependent economy is what we get. But no I didn't vote for that so am I one of the group that is responsible for this mess?

Tort reform and requirements for higher rates for lifestyle choices that drive up cost of medical care would have been much better than 0care.

Cost of higher ed is gubmnt inflated bubble. Remeber "Everybody deserves to own a home?" It ahs been replaced by "Everybody deserves to go to college". Pure liberal fantasy bs that creates bubbles while inflating the cost of whatever fill in the blank item the gubmnt thinks everybody deserves.

Lifetime caps on gubmnt assistance. get rid of cradle to grave multi-generational welfare families. norplant. if you can't afford the kids you have, you shouldn't have any more. we need leadership and 0 doesn't provide any.

and he has a golden goose sitting on his front porch in the form of ultracheap natural gas. US has the cheapest energy in the world but he refuses to embrace it to reduce our trade deficits and to lower the cost of ding business in this country.

dollar depriciation--all his. $4 gas, all his. food inflation, all his.

spin it anyway you want but all he has done is continue to stear the ship downstream towards the cliff while spending like a drunken sailor at a strip club because turning it would require too much effort and drop his favoribility rating. his primary focus is on being popular and it doesn't matter if it all crashes and burns because he knows he has got his now so he is after securing his legacy as being popular and trying to keep his coalition of minority interests pacified long enough to get out of office befor eit crashes.

[jdrgator]

Originally Posted by g8orbill

the left loves how prezbo is destroying this country and that he is taking it to the makers and giving it to the takers-they will never find fault with the ........

Hemming and hawing saying that any president is trying to destroy the country is just silly. It's hollow ranting. It might make you feel better, bill, but it's not rooted in fact.

[T3goalie]

Obama inherited nothing. He was a friggin US Senator too. The Dems controlled congress. Idiot GWB was not a dictator with a veto proof majority. The Dems and Republicans created the problems together over a period of years. As soon as people acknowledge this simple fact, solutions will be possible. The biggest barrier to anything getting done is accepting the nonsense that one party is culpable and the other is not. Otherwise it is just more of the same "its the other guys fault" BS.

[fredsanford]

Originally Posted by T3goalie

Obama inherited nothing. He was a friggin US Senator too. The Dems controlled congress. Idiot GWB was not a dictator with a veto proof majority. The Dems and Republicans created the problems together over a period of years. As soon as people acknowledge this simple fact, solutions will be possible. The biggest barrier to anything getting done is accepting the nonsense that one party is culpable and the other is not. Otherwise it is just more of the same "its the other guys fault" BS.

He was, for 6 years out of 8.

Inconvenient facts again.

[g8orbill]

Originally Posted by jdrgator

Hemming and hawing saying that any president is trying to destroy the country is just silly. It's hollow ranting. It might make you feel better, bill, but it's not rooted in fact.

we shall see just what your prez does over the next 3+ years and if we are anywhere near the same country economically or freedom wise too

I will keep praying Psalm 109 verse 8

[madgator]

Originally Posted by T3goalie

Obama inherited nothing. He was a friggin US Senator too. The Dems controlled congress. Idiot GWB was not a dictator with a veto proof majority. The Dems and Republicans created the problems together over a period of years. As soon as people acknowledge this simple fact, solutions will be possible. The biggest barrier to anything getting done is accepting the nonsense that one party is culpable and the other is not. Otherwise it is just more of the same "its the other guys fault" BS.

and Obama, with the assistance of his propaganda wing (the MSM), is a master of playing the game of blame while at the same time effectively expanding the problems that created the issues in the first place.

[madgator]

Originally Posted by 108

did you forget that by the time Obama took office the deficit was already over a trillion? did you forget what ensues after a recession and a massive one at that? hmm deficits go up don't they

this year it will be back under a trillion and going down

Bush's budget for 2008 was roughly $585 billion deficit. The number went up over $1 trillion after emergency spending.


now, we have no emergencies and we have been over $1 trillion every year that Obama has been in office. Why?

[madgator]

Originally Posted by jdrgator

Hemming and hawing saying that any president is trying to destroy the country is just silly. It's hollow ranting. It might make you feel better, bill, but it's not rooted in fact.

or you could address any of the points brought up in the post above this one.....


lots of facts there for you to address. or ignore

your choice

[viningsgator]

Chronically high unemployment, record number of folks on food stamps, record number of people getting social security disability and not to mention trillion dollar deficits. I don't get why anyone would be concerned?

[jdrgator]

Originally Posted by g8orbill

we shall see just what your prez does over the next 3+ years and if we are anywhere near the same country economically or freedom wise too

I will keep praying Psalm 109 verse 8

Well, I sure don't want to be anything near what we were in 07-08 when it imploded. So if we are very different, than that is likely a very good thing.

[fredsanford]

Originally Posted by viningsgator

Chronically high unemployment, record number of folks on food stamps, record number of people getting social security disability and not to mention trillion dollar deficits. I don't get why anyone would be concerned?

#s 2 and 3 on your list are directly related to #1.

Since American companies are making record profits, the idea that the country will explode with domestic job growth if unleashed by a pub prez are pure poppycock.

They will just take any breaks they receive and hire more Filipinos or pocket larger bonuses. They have learned to live on "lean and mean."

[northgagator]

Originally Posted by fredsanford

#s 2 and 3 on your list are directly related to #1.

Since American companies are making record profits, the idea that the country will explode with domestic job growth if unleashed by a pub prez are pure poppycock.

They will just take any breaks they receive and hire more Filipinos or pocket larger bonuses. They have learned to live on "lean and mean."

Are you saying that there is no chance that we are not under achievers?

Are you saying that we should continue to have these record profits while unemployment is around 8% and 89 million people who have left the work force?

Are you saying that we should be complacent to and continue to redistribute wealth away from the earners to the none earners?

Are you saying that we as a country would not be more productive if we have more of our unemployed/underemployed/out-of-the-workforce citizens?

[ncgatr1]

So let me get this straight, the war in Iraq caused the 660 trillion dollar global economic meltdown? The fact you speak of wars, hence more than one, you are referring to the war in Afghanistan too, I guess you forgot Al Qaeda was based there and we would have gone in there regardless of whom was president. So in conclusion the war in Iraq created all this mess and it was George Bush, when he was head of the New York Fed and also president, turned the blind eye on the Wall Street credit default Ponzi scheme because he was using all this money to fund his war in Iraq, ok, got it.

[fredsanford]

Originally Posted by northgagator

Are you saying that there is no chance that we are not under achievers?

Are you saying that we should continue to have these record profits while unemployment is around 8% and 89 million people who have left the work force?

Are you saying that we should be complacent to and continue to redistribute wealth away from the earners to the none earners?

Are you saying that we as a country would not be more productive if we have more of our unemployed/underemployed/out-of-the-workforce citizens?

I am saying that the corporate oligarchs are responsible for all of this.

If they would quit focusing on their obscene bonuses and start hiring again, the economy would boom with demand and take off again.

It would make their comp go down from mind boggling to merely amazing, but it would be the right thing to do.

[g8orbill]

all the libbies who have posted on this thread have proven the OP's point