I'm always entertained by our liberal brethren who come onto conservative rant threads not to refute the claims or to enlighten us on the merits of leaving a free market enterprise system but only to just say "Bush was evil." I hope you have that in a framed poster over your bed so that in the future when you wake up starving and the street gangs want to charge into your home to acquire your stuff, you will have something to comfort you.
And give the gangs something to laugh at.
What we are trying to educate you about is that you are coming on here and complaining about Obama doing many of the same things Bush did, for which you had no complaints. It's called hypocrisy.
From 2000-2008, the standard for the executive branch changed to, "we'll do what we want unless you have the stones to prosecute." I told you all you wouldn't like it when the other side played the same game. You just laughed it off.
Don't worry pubs--only 3 years and 11 months until Hillary's inauguration. Feel the burn.
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its really unfortunate for you victims to know that a good bit of this country understands he was not at fault for the economic calamity he inherited, nor thinking he could magically fix it
what to speak of the wars
Is there a single negative aspect of our economy that he is responsible for?
Is there a single negative aspect of our economy that he is responsible for?
Can you ever point to a single aspect of an economy and say "Yes, that was completely the president's doing?"
That's not to say he has zero impact. He should certainly have some. But what facet is strictly the president's fault/credit?
What we are trying to educate you about is that you are coming on here and complaining about Obama doing many of the same things Bush did, for which you had no complaints. It's called hypocrisy.
From 2000-2008, the standard for the executive branch changed to, "we'll do what we want unless you have the stones to prosecute." I told you all you wouldn't like it when the other side played the same game. You just laughed it off.
Don't worry pubs--only 3 years and 11 months until Hillary's inauguration. Feel the burn.
Unfortunately you don't get it. You and others that like to tweek the other side are merely the stupid disparaging the retarded. In your case, you have bought the media's pejorative hook, line and sinker about what a conservative is. While I am not ready to go there, they are getting further away from being arrogant and lazy to being propaganda pushers. I still maintain that they are chasing after dollars just like the rest of the afflicted beings out there. Their moral authority to be journalists left a LONG time ago. That is not to say that Fox is holy and MSNBC is evil but that chasing after and coddling viewership has its own set of evils and their integrity is being continually compromised.
I posted on another thread that being conservative isn't about waving the flag and going to church. It is much more than that. It is an implicit understanding that humans are self serving and when any system doesn't take that into consideration it will be corrupted and then oppression will take over very quickly. It is unimaginable that there are people in the US that would take all of the prosperity that we have developed and nurtured throughout the years in the face of all of those who espouse other systems and come out on top only to be the dictators of a banana republic but that is HUMAN NATURE. History says so and it WILL say so in the future.
The US was built on self determination brought on by a wealth of resources and an independently minded middle class, not the caste system of the Europeans. But through the ages, most likely since the end of WW2 and our rise to superpower status, we began to unravel independence and self sufficiency and decided that we can let others do the heavy lifting. There are a plethora of reasons why but at the end of the day we are here. I have posted this several times and I just bring it back for your entertainment:
Fred, these are yours and my future. Is THAT what you want? And if you think that they are just a fad and that saner heads are coming soon then all I can do is add to your poster this line, for your benefit: "Those who do not study history are forced to repeat it." What happened during W's second term was an abomination to the so called principles of the GOP and they got exactly what they deserved. But when the "Savior" get anointed master (see Nobel Prize) because he looks good in a suit AND he has shown time and again that he is in WAY over his head - he is a legislator/lawyer and NOT a leader - then you get the situation that we are in today which is a terrible apathy in the majority of the population. Unfortunately there are people in very powerful positions who are using that apathy and busyness/ignorance to their advantage - ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.
Now if you like to post as a sort of gallows humor then keep on keeping on. Don't let me get in the way of your happiness. But if you think that rubber stamping the Dems because they "mean well" and refute anything out of the mouths of the Pubs because "Bush is Evil" then you may as well get in line with those in the video. We all are going to be there in time.
Is there a single negative aspect of our economy that he is responsible for?
it doesn't matter does it....its just what one believes
is he responsible for the crash?
is he responsible for the tremendous debt he inherited?
is he responsible for the debt created after the crash to soften the blow that all presidents have taken previously?
is he responsible for the wars?
is he responsible for the sky rocketing health care prices of the last decade or so?
is he responsible for the rising costs of education?
i'll tell you who is more responsible than any president, and its us....its us who allowed wars and debt, and Gov being in bed with the banks and looking the other way while they loot the country...its us who allows our healthcare system to not have any costs controls....and its us who allows our elected officials to be bought and sold to the highest bidder in the name of "free speech"
it doesn't matter does it....its just what one believes
is he responsible for the crash?
is he responsible for the tremendous debt he inherited?
is he responsible for the debt created after the crash to soften the blow that all presidents have taken previously?
is he responsible for the wars?
is he responsible for the sky rocketing health care prices of the last decade or so?
is he responsible for the rising costs of education?
i'll tell you who is more responsible than any president, and its us....its us who allowed wars and debt, and Gov being in bed with the banks and looking the other way while they loot the country...its us who allows our healthcare system to not have any costs controls....and its us who allows our elected officials to be bought and sold to the highest bidder in the name of "free speech"
we deserve who we elect
if you remember, we had some conservatives blaming Obama for the crash before he was elected, claiming the economy collapsed because everyone knew he was going to win the election.
its really unfortunate for you victims to know that a good bit of this country understands he was not at fault for the economic calamity he inherited, nor thinking he could magically fix it
what to speak of the wars
I know of 12 people that could have fixed the problems he inherited. Yet, President "I Never Worked a Day of My Life" Obama uses that as an excuse.
Funny, Bush inherited 2 busted bubbles from the Clinton administration that paved the way for the 2008 recession. The NASDAQ alone lost 60% in one year during the election year. Yet, I never ever heard him pointing fingers at Clinton. He also inherited 9/11 since Clinton was the President during the first attempt to destroy the WTC in 1993. Clinton had chances to take out OBL but was too busy getting his shaft waxed. Yet, Bush didn't whine and use that as an excuse.
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I know of 12 people that could have fixed the problems he inherited. Yet, President "I Never Worked a Day of My Life" Obama uses that as an excuse.
Funny, Bush inherited 2 busted bubbles from the Clinton administration that paved the way for the 2008 recession. The NASDAQ alone lost 60% in one year during the election year. Yet, I never ever heard him pointing fingers at Clinton. He also inherited 9/11 since Clinton was the President during the first attempt to destroy the WTC in 1993. Clinton had chances to take out OBL but was too busy getting his shaft waxed. Yet, Bush didn't whine and use that as an excuse.
IF you don't think Bush blamed Clinton for anything then you simply weren't paying attention.
Otherwise, the 2008 was Clinton's fault?
I know of 12 people that could have fixed the problems he inherited. Yet, President "I Never Worked a Day of My Life" Obama uses that as an excuse.
Funny, Bush inherited 2 busted bubbles from the Clinton administration that paved the way for the 2008 recession. The NASDAQ alone lost 60% in one year during the election year. Yet, I never ever heard him pointing fingers at Clinton. He also inherited 9/11 since Clinton was the President during the first attempt to destroy the WTC in 1993. Clinton had chances to take out OBL but was too busy getting his shaft waxed. Yet, Bush didn't whine and use that as an excuse.
a simple google search completely disagrees with your charge
and ironic, because conservatives blame an initiative under Clinton to help lower income families buy homes, as the culprit for the private sector committing rampant fraud, despite studies showing it had very little to do with it
yet there is no proof he has exacerbated it, and certainly no proof that so-called conservative fixes would help it
less regulation and trickle down were part of the problem to begin with
you mean like forcing banks to give home loans to people who couldn't afford them?
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you mean like forcing banks to give home loans to people who couldn't afford them?
haha just on time, look above
they "forced" nothing, and it has been studies several times independently to show that those initiatives were not the cause of the housing bubble and subsequent crash
What we are trying to educate you about is that you are coming on here and complaining about Obama doing many of the same things Bush did, for which you had no complaints. It's called hypocrisy.
From 2000-2008, the standard for the executive branch changed to, "we'll do what we want unless you have the stones to prosecute." I told you all you wouldn't like it when the other side played the same game. You just laughed it off.
Don't worry pubs--only 3 years and 11 months until Hillary's inauguration. Feel the burn.
That hypocrisy pales in comparison to the left's nuclear meltdown over Bush's policies, turned to rabid support for the same polices, amplified and on steroids.
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Every president has talked about how bad the conditions were when he took office and how hard he's worked to fix them. The difference this time around is that every time Obama or anyone in his administration mentions that, we conservative feigning protest with "OMG, he's blaming his Bush!!! No president has ever done that before!!!"
Even now on this thread, we've someone claiming that Bush never blamed Clinton. It's simply not true.
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Although last week's revision of U.S. gross domestic product data for 2001 may have been old news for the economy, it was something of a stroke of luck for President Bush, who has since used it as evidence that he inherited an economic mess when he took office.
Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, in separate speeches Wednesday, both claimed the U.S. economy was already in recession when they were inaugurated in January 2001, implying the blame for the slowdown rested on President Clinton's shoulders.
"Too much sanity may be the greatest maddness of all--to see life as it is rather than as it should be.” 
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