Detroit expected to go bankrupt next week.

[busigator96]

I blame the lack of diversification of the local tax base. Auto was kind and it pulled everything g down with it.

[geauxgator1]

Originally Posted by PIMking

As much as I would love to pile on, there are plenty of houses in any large city that look like that. Detroit is not different

But this is the rule, not the exception!

[CalSFGator]

Originally Posted by Gatorrick22

The city of Detroit is proof that the Leftists' way and their unions thugs can't seem to understand what a budget really means........... Just like the geniuses in Washington.

We warned the Dems about these things to come, but the Leftists chose uncontrolled spending with no limits.

It's sad that you hope so desparately for it to be true. You don't care about America or Americans, you just want people to think you were right. You will ignore the San Franciscos, New Yorks, Santa Monicas, Tokyos, Stockholms, Sydneys, Zurichs, etc. of the world, as well as the horrid chitholes that litter the red states, that doesn't fit your political paradigm, because at the end of the day, your politics is a game, not an attempt to find solutions.

[MichiGator2002]

Originally Posted by CalSFGator

It's sad that you hope so desparately for it to be true. You don't care about America or Americans, you just want people to think you were right. You will ignore the San Franciscos, New Yorks, Santa Monicas, Tokyos, Stockholms, Sydneys, Zurichs, etc. of the world, as well as the horrid chitholes that litter the red states, that doesn't fit your political paradigm, because at the end of the day, your politics is a game, not an attempt to find solutions.

Caring about Americans means pointing at Detroit, saying "see what happens, Larry?"

The most caring thing you can do for America and Americans is to show them what Detroit is, how it was self-inflicted, such that they might learn to not be Detroit. It is uncaring, it is cruel, to just continually paper over Detroit's entirely self-inflicted wounds and assure those with similar habits that it will all be okay.

[David Shepherd]

Forbes list of 20 most miserable cities in America
1. Detroit
2. Flint
3. Rockford ILL
4. Chicago ILL
5. Modesto, CA
6. Vallejo, CA
7. Warren MI
8. Stocton, CA
9. Lake County, IL
10. NY, NY
11. Toledo
12. St. Louis
13. Camden, NJ
14. Milwaukee
15. Atlantic City
16. Atlanta
17. Cleveland
18. Poughkeepsie, NY
19. Gary, IN
20. Youngstown, OH

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mli45...youngstown-oh/

[HudsonGator]

Originally Posted by CalSFGator

It's sad that you hope so desparately for it to be true. You don't care about America or Americans, you just want people to think you were right. You will ignore the San Franciscos, New Yorks, Santa Monicas, Tokyos, Stockholms, Sydneys, Zurichs, etc. of the world, as well as the horrid chitholes that litter the red states, that doesn't fit your political paradigm, because at the end of the day, your politics is a game, not an attempt to find solutions.

Well said.

[T3goalie]

Bush's fault.

[gator421]

Originally Posted by tegator80

Kind of liberal, like having a town moved from a river after a major flood, but I can see the Federal government spending money to move the remaining citizens somewhere else and just leveling the whole thing. Better than reminding everyone of what once was.

Think of the business opportunities that would create.

[T3goalie]

Originally Posted by MichiGator2002

Caring about Americans means pointing at Detroit, saying "see what happens, Larry?"

The most caring thing you can do for America and Americans is to show them what Detroit is, how it was self-inflicted, such that they might learn to not be Detroit. It is uncaring, it is cruel, to just continually paper over Detroit's entirely self-inflicted wounds and assure those with similar habits that it will all be okay.

You must be a cold heated Bastard. Don't you realize it is more important to some people to feel bad and emote for others plights than to do anything to solve the problem or prevent a similar situation in the future? Your misconception Mich is that you actually want to solve a problem and you understand that to solve a problem you must identify the cause. How dare you state that 1+1= 2! people who are in denial don't want to know such facts. They want you to feel for their plight and be empathetic. Years ago I learned a valuable lesson form an Italian immigrant. I told him i had a problem and explained how it occurred. He listened and simply said, "what are you going to do to solve it?" This simple lesson is lost on most today.

[CalSFGator]

Originally Posted by MichiGator2002

Caring about Americans means pointing at Detroit, saying "see what happens, Larry?"

The most caring thing you can do for America and Americans is to show them what Detroit is, how it was self-inflicted, such that they might learn to not be Detroit. It is uncaring, it is cruel, to just continually paper over Detroit's entirely self-inflicted wounds and assure those with similar habits that it will all be okay.

The problem isn't pointing to it, of course, it's your failure to point to the other cities I mentioned and view those under the same light, and its the glee in which you revel in their misery. I could point to all the trailer parks and shanty towns in conservative districts in the country, but what would be the point. The dynamics go much deeper than whether they are dem or rep. Detroit is emblematic of a lot of towns in the factory/rust belt that have relied on largely dying industries for the last 30 years or more.

[JerseyGator01]

Don't know of too many government-funded trailer parks.

[wargunfan]

Originally Posted by David Shepherd

Forbes list of 20 most miserable cities in America
1. Detroit
2. Flint
3. Rockford ILL
4. Chicago ILL
5. Modesto, CA
6. Vallejo, CA
7. Warren MI
8. Stocton, CA
9. Lake County, IL
10. NY, NY
11. Toledo
12. St. Louis
13. Camden, NJ
14. Milwaukee
15. Atlantic City
16. Atlanta
17. Cleveland
18. Poughkeepsie, NY
19. Gary, IN
20. Youngstown, OH

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mli45...youngstown-oh/

Blue state hall of shame. Atlanta shouldn't be on that list IMO.

[Gatorrick22]

Originally Posted by CalSFGator

It's sad that you hope so desparately for it to be true. You don't care about America or Americans, you just want people to think you were right. You will ignore the San Franciscos, New Yorks, Santa Monicas, Tokyos, Stockholms, Sydneys, Zurichs, etc. of the world, as well as the horrid chitholes that litter the red states, that doesn't fit your political paradigm, because at the end of the day, your politics is a game, not an attempt to find solutions.

Reading is fundamental: I said we warned the Leftists, that is not what you stated I said.



And.... what do you call a person that changes the facts around in a debate just so they can argue with themselves about what they wrote in the first place? This is your affliction my friend.

[G8trGr8t]

Originally Posted by CalSFGator

The problem isn't pointing to it, of course, it's your failure to point to the other cities I mentioned and view those under the same light, and its the glee in which you revel in their misery. I could point to all the trailer parks and shanty towns in conservative districts in the country, but what would be the point. The dynamics go much deeper than whether they are dem or rep. Detroit is emblematic of a lot of towns in the factory/rust belt that have relied on largely dying industries for the last 30 years or more.

those industries didn't die though, they relocated to areas where they could be profitable. that distinction seems to be lost on you.

the wounds were self-inflicted and the point is that either we learn from somebody else's mistakes or we make the same mistakes.

too many people seem to be in denial that the issues that caused the demise of Detroit were self inflicted and the same philospohy that generated the problems there are being promoted on a national level.

[JerseyGator01]

Trenton (NJ) as well as several other Jersey cities could have made this list. Trenton probably didn't because it is not far from Princeton and no one outside of the legions of government bureaucrats commutes to Trenton anymore - making for an efficient commute.

[MichiGator2002]

Originally Posted by CalSFGator

The problem isn't pointing to it, of course, it's your failure to point to the other cities I mentioned and view those under the same light, and its the glee in which you revel in their misery. I could point to all the trailer parks and shanty towns in conservative districts in the country, but what would be the point. The dynamics go much deeper than whether they are dem or rep. Detroit is emblematic of a lot of towns in the factory/rust belt that have relied on largely dying industries for the last 30 years or more.

I was born in the Detroit metro, have lived a decade or more of child and adult life in Washtenaw County. I don't care in the slightest what you think of me commenting on the ever expanding blackhole of stupid expanding out from the city of dreams in which I would go cheer for Lou Whitaker and Alan Trammell.

The simple fact, though, is that Detroit is singled out because Detroit is exceptional. 50% adult illiteracy rate, actual attempts to reagriculturalize urban sprawl because of the implosion of real estate value in its delapidated neighborhoods. Who can lay a finger on that? You can point to a lot of crappy cities, but likening them to Detroit is an insult to them, and even, in a manner of speaking, to Detroit -- not properly recognizing their distinction.

To borrow some cheap town heat from an old wrestler -- if you needed to give America an enema, Detroit is where you would put the hose.

And nobody did it to them, they did it to themselves. Right now, it would be immoral if Snyder didn't take a wrecking ball to Detroit's institutionalized failures.

[rpmGator]

My town has doubled in population in the last few years.

Spending on our town the local TeaFools said was our ruin, made us richer. We never had to cut services, gave our workers raises, built parks and bought land, and all of that brought in more people which increased our tax base. Our taxes went down during this time...

It worked too damn well imo. Now we have too many people for my liking.

Yet the same thing that made us grow, is the same thing many want to cut. Thinking is the solution and spending on the right things. Cutting isn't always the way to go, towns near us that had to raise taxes wish they had done it our way, when the only solution they could come up with, let them down.

If all you have for Detroit is a funeral, that is what you will get. Happy Now.