02-19-2013, 11:25 PM
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Dont blame Boynton,I blame Billy for benching Frazier, our best shooter when we need points.
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02-19-2013, 11:26 PM
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Wrong, bad shot selection and the same thing that has haunted this team the last two years. Unable to utilize the post when the game is on the line. At least drive the lane and make them foul you. You are only down two, oh I forgot, the great Kenny Boynton shoots up another off balanced shot to try and be the hero. Let's not forget he took another bad shot 30secs prior to that one as well. Wake up, I don't care if he is the all time leading scorer in the history of basketball, the shots he puts up towards the end of halfs and games are bad shots, period.
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02-19-2013, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hgators
Some of you are idiots, seriously. He makes that 3 and your blowing him via the internet. Without him we don't go back to back E8 and aren't 21-4. Just pathetic. Bad shot, yes, but he stopped the bleeding kept us in.
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It's what irrational posters on this board with little basketball IQ do. Pick a guy and make him a scapegoat. Walker/Calathes/Boynton/Werner.
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02-19-2013, 11:27 PM
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Wayyy too many threes and missed fts tonight. Boynton has nelsonitis. If he wants team to win, he needs to focus on d, distributing and driving occasionally. I'm still hoping wilby, rosario or frazier get a shot at being clutch. Boynton is not the guy. Wilby has shown signs.
Key though is donovan. He's gotta call some better half court sets.
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02-19-2013, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Noahtogo24
C'mon you can put the loss on him tonight. We shot less than 50% from free throws tonight, that's why we loss
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And in the final minutes, several times the FRONT END of 1 and 1s, which is like missing two each time!
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02-19-2013, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by channingcrowderhungry
Lack of inside offensive game is the issue. Not Kenny.
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This. Wake up - not KB's fault we lost tonight. Geez....
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02-19-2013, 11:29 PM
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What bleeding did he stop? He was the one covering the guy who put the inbounds 3 in to take the lead. Wait, did you miss that play? I think some of you have Kenny Boynton envy.
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02-19-2013, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by hgators
Some of you are idiots, seriously. He makes that 3 and your blowing him via the internet. Without him we don't go back to back E8 and aren't 21-4. Just pathetic. Bad shot, yes, but he stopped the bleeding kept us in.
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It was still a horrible shot whether he made it or not. The chances of him making an off-balance three to win the game are low. Taking a 3 when we don't need one is also pretty poor decision making. He could have driven it to the hoop and miss or make everyone would have just walked away. Instead we have this history of just jacking up 3s at the end of games.
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02-19-2013, 11:29 PM
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Yeah, I think it's fine if there is some sort of movement of the ball to give Kenny a good look at the basket. But in this particular instance the ball was basically given to Kenny by Wilbekin at the top of the arc and then the shot was taken. Maybe drive inside and dish it to an open Kenny. That'd be fine. But there was no offensive flow on that last possession. *shrug*
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02-19-2013, 11:29 PM
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KB is PART of the loss tonight, but not the WHOLE reason why we loss tonight. Murphy being cold in the first half tonight, missed free throws, plenty of blame to go around.
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02-19-2013, 11:31 PM
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My take is that Kenny wants to be the hero all the time, which was no more evident than when he did his dramatic follow-through with seven seconds left (when he should have been crashing the boards). He took three 3s in the last few possessions, when all we needed was a bucket. Go to the damn rim! My wife is going to be pissed tomorrow when she watches the game on dvr. Selfish play by KB during crunch time, yet again. : (
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02-19-2013, 11:31 PM
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Yes, free throws hurt, but we are not talking about that. It's the shot selection at the end of the game. Is there one person who thinks that was a good shot whether it went in or not? Is so, you know more then 99% of the people who pay attention to basketball because the shot stunk!
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02-19-2013, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by canadagator2
Ya, spelling counts. Contribute to the thread or leave.
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By "contributing to the thread" do you mean roasting Boynton for his one bad game?
If so, I'm out as well.
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02-19-2013, 11:33 PM
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It wasn't just Boynton. Wilbekin took a couple of REALLY bad shots in the last couple of minutes too, that baseline jumper off a 1 on 1 move, and then that stepback 3 (PRAYER!!!) that put us up 1 temporarily. Billy D said poor shot selection is why he got benched a few games back, he might have to have another pow-wow.  But hell you could pretty much bench our entire back-court if you wanted to nitpick shot selection.
This shit needs to get ironed out in a hurry or this team is not going to get back to the elite 8 - let alone final 4, we'll get bounced early in an NCAA tournament game if this is how we are going to play down the stretch of close games. Honestly UF has not had alot of close games due to playing some great ball (and yeah, shooting the lights out from 3 is a big reason why UF wins). But at the same time this team is also starting to show it doesn't know how to win close games when you don't shoot the opponent out of the gym. The ball needs to go in the paint in those situations, you can't just jack 3's and hope to win in the final minutes. You are basically just leaving it up to chance if you are shooting long jumpers to win the game - on the road (and in tournament NCAA arenas) the deck is stacked against you knocking down 3's in tight situations, so the odds are even longer to win when you go with that strategy. That's how UF teams let elite 8 games slip away the last two years, and that's how we've lost a couple of rough ones on the road this year.
End of half situation is the same thing as end of game, notice our shot at the very end of the first half was also a Boynton "prayer" from three? Again, this is a team issue and not just a Boynton issue. It's something Donovan needs to correct for the team as a whole by running plays that demand the ball get in the lane somehow - and also Patrick Young needs to demand the ball, but even if the ball doesn't go to Young, our guards should also be attacking rather than taking long 3. When you are down 1 you don't need to jack a 3, you need to take it to the rim.
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02-19-2013, 11:35 PM
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#35
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NO scapegoat here, just the truth. If you've watched any Florida basketball in the last 3yrs this is a reoccurring theme. However, I would love to ask Billy why he has Boynton try and create off the bounce instead of coming off a screen if he wants him to shot the last shot everytime the game is on the line.
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02-19-2013, 11:36 PM
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#36
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Cut out the insults folks. No call for those
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02-19-2013, 11:36 PM
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Some of you are ridiculous.
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02-19-2013, 11:38 PM
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I love KB and some of the posts in this thread are disgusting.
With that said, he has taken some really bad three pointers at the end of close games. Wish he would finally learn to make better decisions there.
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02-19-2013, 11:39 PM
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#39
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regardless of who is to blame, Kenny needs to grow up and learn a lesson this time, and Donovan needs to make sure of it
this kid is a great Gator, but Donovan has never seemed to discipline him like he has the others for taking bad shots
3 years of losing this way in a row with Kenny being right in the heart of it taking bad shots
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02-19-2013, 11:42 PM
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Lets see. Kenny has shot many of these"open" threes before, check. Very rarely do they go in, check. No one is "roasting" him, all we are saying is that this is a reoccurring theme with the same results. A loss. Again, would love to ask Billy why he "designs" plays like this but he is not here to inquire. Therefore, we discuss the person taking the ill advised shots, being one, Kenny Boynton.
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