Stunning. Given all the data showing an Obama victory, on election day Romney was still convinced he was going to win. Was Romney just ignoring the data and going with his gut feeling? We recently had a 'gut feeling' kind of president for 8 long years and that didn't work out so well. How can one say that one so clueless, so oblivious to the obvious evidence on election day, would have made a very good president?
Uh, moc was probably too polite to ask why Will also pronounced Romney the sure winner right before election day. At least he got Iraq right. With his just wrong prognostication on climate change he's batting .333, not bad for baseball but not good for a paid speaker.
Good video. Perfectly summarizes the incessant complaints of the right wing on this thread and Too Hot in general. Translates roughly to the "liberals are hurting me. Please BFF God save us from our pedestrian Walmartian stupors. We are special and unique and lily white. Daddy in the sky protect me from these horrible communists and their scary egalitarianism...."
Good video. Perfectly summarizes the incessant complaints of the right wing on this thread and Too Hot in general. Translates roughly to the "liberals are hurting me. Please BFF God save us from our pedestrian Walmartian stupors. We are special and unique and lily white. Daddy in the sky protect me from these horrible communists and their scary egalitarianism...."
You think? Well everyone's entitled to an opinion. I thought it more perfectly summarized rants like this, by tofu-munchers who begrudge the hardworking successful types their cordon bleu:
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Must be exhausting being such a martyr. Does it subtitle you as one on those little badges they hand out before the panel discussion?
Actually, the productive people get on with their lives instead of crying all day long into their cordon bleu (that seems Hyatt-y) about the woes of the world on their back and how nefarious spindly-mustached liberals are ruining their beloved if imaginary country. Feigned serious politics is the new craze of the bored older white guy in America - their sophisticated replacement for pro wrestling dominated by cliched and trite archetypal caricatures, the most cursory of thought and even less education. Time and the malaise of lingering affluence have made them bitchy and entitled, and between the one Ayn Rand book they read and their dusty copy of Red Badge of Courage on their lonely shelves, they have somehow confused themselves as the intellectual protagonists.
Nothing really bad is happening to them, and they can't stand the thought of their irrelevance, so they create monster under their bed and barbarians at the gate. Taxes are as low as they have been in most of their lives, we aren't being attacked, the economy in its relatively natural cycle is improving, and the country is largely getting safer, so they harp on the pangs of the coming fall. The invent the devil they always needed. Political dispensationalists of sorts.
It's just sad and even human I suppose, but hardly admirable.
Generalize much? Buy into and perpetuate negative stereotypes much? Like most Liberals you project onto others the qualities you despise in yourself, oh believer of prejudicial assumptions with their basis in ignorance and shallow small-mindedness.
Overuse the "much" convention much?
I love that your post about generalizations includes the phrase "like most Liberals". Irony is most adorable when unwitting. For my part, I don't mind generalizations too much, they help us organize the world and, unlike a lot of Too Hoters, I have a job and need generalizations to condense the time I would otherwise spend allocating a slot in the spectrum of human condition for each and every person. For your part, your comments above is meaningless and makes little sense. Are you saying you disagree with Moc and his OP and all the generalizations about liberals in it, or not?
I was making a cultural observation about how little perspective some have when complaining about an otherwise pretty healthy existence, and the psycho-social factors that contribute to that detachment.
MOC, what is your opinion of him? I know the man is intelligent but do you consider him Pub establishment? He said that the Tea party ideas are strong and won't go away but does he hold to their ideals? I was just wondering what you thought of him as a person?
Thanks for the post. Good read.
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I love that your post about generalizations includes the phrase "like most Liberals". Irony is most adorable when unwitting. For my part, I don't mind generalizations too much, they help us organize the world and, unlike a lot of Too Hoters, I have a job and need generalizations to condense the time I would otherwise spend allocating a slot in the spectrum of human condition for each and every person. For your part, your comments above is meaningless and makes little sense. Are you saying you disagree with Moc and his OP and all the generalizations about liberals in it, or not?
I was making a cultural observation about how little perspective some have when complaining about an otherwise pretty healthy existence, and the psycho-social factors that contribute to that detachment.
No, see, I don't have a problem with generalizations. Or negative stereotypes either, for the most part. As often as not they have some basis in fact. I just think it's funny when Liberals who are supposedly against the idea of generalized prejudices actually buy into them wholeheartedly. But it is interesting to see that despite being a follower of the Liberal ideology that's ostensibly all about social equality and anti-discrimination, you candidly admit accepting and perpetuating generalizations when it suits you. Good for you, I guess.
Anyway, just so you understand, a Conservative making fun of a Liberal for having generalized beliefs and prejudices is not necessarily ironic. In this instance it's comparable to the way Liberals went into snark overdrive when that Republican politician who opposed gay marriage, I forget his name, was outed as being a closeted gay himself. They weren't mocking his gayness, they were mocking his hypocrisy. Or at least, I hope so. But come to think of it they might've been mocking his gayness too. Liberals are duplicitous like that, generally speaking.
MOC, what is your opinion of him? I know the man is intelligent but do you consider him Pub establishment? He said that the Tea party ideas are strong and won't go away but does he hold to their ideals? I was just wondering what you thought of him as a person?
Thanks for the post. Good read.
Yeah moc I have the impression that George Will is one of those Conservative elite types who sort of views the rank and file Tea Party folks as little more than useful rabble. Am I wrong?
I like George Will, but he's been phoning it in for at least the last 10 years.
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Good video. Perfectly summarizes the incessant complaints of the right wing on this thread and Too Hot in general. Translates roughly to the "liberals are hurting me. Please BFF God save us from our pedestrian Walmartian stupors. We are special and unique and lily white. Daddy in the sky protect me from these horrible communists and their scary egalitarianism...."
You do come here often to whine, about right wingers whining, just saying.
You do come here often to whine, about right wingers whining, just saying.
The forum itself is nothing but complaining rightwingers. I try to tell them to calm down and relax, that life isn't so bad. They are so terribly melodramatic. Like political Bette Midlers.
The forum itself is nothing but complaining rightwingers. I try to tell them to calm down and relax, that life isn't so bad. They are so terribly melodramatic. Like political Bette Midlers.
Then get out of this thread if it bothers you so much.
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"Left, Right" yada yada yada.......most of our biggest problems come from the commingling of Business and Government....aka Crony Capitalism
But who wants it that way...business
Good line. Now just understand when you make arguments here that when you talk about the corruption and self interests of the right, the left is just as corrupt and motivated by self interest. And when you finally understand that if the left says one thing but really does another - especially their representatives and family/friends - then having government in more and more aspects of your life isn't a good thing, regardless of whether some underprivileged people won't get the exact same things as those with more resources. But since we have a long and distinguished history of charity, we want to help the less fortunate. Just not at the end of a gun.
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And if you take that message to heart then you will be on your way to true conservatism and not the pejorative that the media and academia have brainwashed the masses to believe. I have a rooting interest in your conversion.
The forum itself is nothing but complaining rightwingers. I try to tell them to calm down and relax, that life isn't so bad. They are so terribly melodramatic. Like political Bette Midlers.
That's what the frog in the kettle thought-for a while.
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