Gallup: Americans disagree with almost every Obama policy

[MastaG8r]

Originally Posted by rivergator

Not sure I understand. You're claiming that most on the right didn't support the war in Iraq? Or do you figure your friends were the exception?

I can tell you that on Too Hot, as well as everywhere I else I read and heard, the support for the war was just about unanimous from the right.

Otherwise, do you acknowledge now that the war was a terrible mistake?

No, I was referring more to the intensity of the support. Shabadoo claimed that all the Conservatives had "bromantical man-love" for GWB and were "head over heels for him." That's not true. Among many the support was tepid at best, and few were very enthusiastic. With myself being an admitted exception. And on that note, no, I absolutely do not acknowledge that the war was a terrible mistake, because it wasn't.

George Bush introduced democracy or self-governance into a part of the world where it was literally a foreign concept. I said all along that things would get worse before they got better, and we're still in that stage now. But when it's all said and done the whole world will be a safer place because of the long-term transformative outcome of what Bush did.

"The advance of freedom is the surest strategy
to undermine the appeal of terror in the world.
Where freedom takes hold, hatred gives way to hope.
When freedom takes hold, men and women turn
to the peaceful pursuit of a better life.
American values and American interests
lead in the same direction.
We stand for human liberty."

--GWB

[fredsanford]

Originally Posted by MastaG8r

No, I was referring more to the intensity of the support. Shabadoo claimed that all the Conservatives had "bromantical man-love" for GWB and were "head over heels for him." That's not true.

Maybe there was a point during the 8 years where this became LESS true, but it absolutely, positively, as it related to this board WAS true.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by fredsanford

Maybe there was a point during the 8 years where this became LESS true, but it absolutely, positively, as it related to this board WAS true.

The amazing thing is you have one standard for you but hold everybody else to another standard. Why is it that you claim this

However, like most people, I vote more against one thing than for another.

and at the same time allude that this can only be true for the left while all conservatives loved and embraced all GWB's policies. Do you see how silly your being?

[tegator80]

If you want to point out what Bush did inherently wrong in the same light as what Obama is doing, it would be his proclamation to turn corn into fuel. That wreaks of favoritism to ADM as opposed to Obama's Green initiatives.

And I was vehemently opposed to it then as I am today. And I am as right today as I was then.

[fredsanford]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

The amazing thing is you have one standard for you but hold everybody else to another standard. Why is it that you claim this and at the same time allude that this can only be true for the left while all conservatives loved and embraced all GWB's policies. Do you see how silly your being?

Not true at all.

The revisionist history at play here is 'Gosh, we didn't like Bush all that much and he spent too much, but we certainly liked the alternative less.'

The reality is that almost all of the con posters here during Bush II were madly, madly, madly in man love with him.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by fredsanford

Not true at all.

The revisionist history at play here is 'Gosh, we didn't like Bush all that much and he spent too much, but we certainly liked the alternative less.'

The reality is that almost all of the con posters here during Bush II were madly, madly, madly in man love with him.

You have something else going on in your head that is not based on reality. I've been here and remember many on the right speaking out against his big government ideals. You just keeping claiming things that are not true and it makes you look silly. I have never once came out in favor of how he handled the financial disaster and that is a fact. There are many other things I disagreed with as well but I will just leave that as an example.

[PSGator66]

I am a conservative and I thought Bush was alright but too much spending.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by PSGator66

I am a conservative and I thought Bush was alright but too much spending.

Well according to Shab you are a revisionist and agreed with everything Bush did.

[reformedgator]

Originally Posted by fredsanford

Bush ramrodded through a 2nd war we didn't want. Far worse than any universal healthcare bill.

Didn't a lot of your bedfellows in Washington also cast that vote?

[shaun10]

Originally Posted by tegator80

I think the poll shows that, even though Obama is a poor example of what a president needs to be and on top of that wants to expand the Federal government and its intrusion into our personal lives to unprecedented levels (not including the Civil and Second World Wars), the American public needs someone to motivate them to show up at the polls. I tried to do my job and let people know that the election was a serious matter and that we need to clean house - ALL that are a part of the mess in congress and not just Obama - but we as a collective whole just decided that it wasn't worth the effort.

The election was less about Obama and his policies versus Romney's as it was a sad and sobering commentary of where our heads are. We can't be bothered to do the things that need to be done. And in time we will reap what we sow.

Ding Ding Ding... One of the best posts I have seen on this forum ever. A lot of you banter back and forth with the opposition while NEVER admitting that your own party is part of the problem as well. To gain true traction we need balance and there is a severe lack of that in Washington. "Cleaning house" would be the best thing we could do.