UK fans ripping UF for handling of Noel injury...

[socraticsilence]

Its a natural reaction- think about how you felt when Tim went down in Lexington- I was looking for someone to blame. Its dumb but people are irrational when something shocking happens.

[GatorNation850]

Originally Posted by tilly

Just trying to recall how quickly the Kentucky folks rushed to Tebow when he was motionless on the field?

Oh wait...

Exactly

[CAGator93]

One of their fans cited a knee injury from falling out of a deer stand.

So - that pretty much sums up where most of them are coming from.

[jrcg8tor]

I saw uk students dong Tebow imitations after the game where Tim got hurt. One was motionless on the ground with a football next to him. The other were going up to Gator fans and asking how we liked his Tebow imitation.

[jmoliver]

J Foley is on the radio right now. He said we have Strechers, EMTs and Doctors on site. UK did not ask for any of the equipment or professionals to me used. End of Discussion.

[HALLGATOR]

One of our posters last night said it looked like to him that the injury occurred when Noel came down after the block which would have been prior to him hitting the stanchion

[bakaduin]

Originally Posted by HALLGATOR

One of our posters last night said it looked like to him that the injury occurred when Noel came down after the block which would have been prior to him hitting the stanchion

Look at the picture in the other Noel thread. Looks like his knee is bent before contact with the stanchion.

[CAGator93]

Originally Posted by GothamGator

The latest criticisms in that thread are blaming the O'Dome saying that it is little more than a high school stadium and that the basket supports are too close to the court and that's what caused the injury.

Yeah -- nothing like that in the NBA.....

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[LabraGator]

Originally Posted by CAGator93

Yeah -- nothing like that in the NBA.....

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Love the still chosen to show the O-Dome layout.

[MJGator8104]

Originally Posted by socraticsilence

Its a natural reaction- think about how you felt when Tim went down in Lexington- I was looking for someone to blame. Its dumb but people are irrational when something shocking happens.

Except there is a big difference between how UK fans, etc., reacted to Tebow's injury and how the UF fans, etc., reacted when Noel went down.

Accidents happen and I can understand looking for someone to blame; however, it's a stretch for them to say our crowd and trainers behaved badly. Also, I'm sure the NCAA regulates basket/basket support positions and there's no way we'd be out of compliance...

[wci347]

Given the questions as to the extent of the injury, it was incumbent upon the Kentucky staff to request additional assistance. To suggest that we either 1) deliberately didn't provide it, or 2) have some responsibility for anticipating and reading the minds of Kentucky's staff is ridiculous.

[boatdrinks]

Blame in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary is a sophomoric coping mechanism to deal with disappointment. Childish.

[Bear1974]

My only observation is there is a danger in taking a few crack pipe posters on the internet and trying to equate their reaction to a majority of any fan base.

Listen - every team has crack pots and over the many moons their are certain fan bases for certain teams of certain sports that have a few more loons than usual and UK basketball fan certainly falls into that category.

But I'm not going get amped up over someone on the internet or a group of fans on the internet venting that UF is somehow to blame for this injury last night even though we all know that is not true.

You play sports and you play hard then at some point accidents will happen and injuries will happen.

I would also note he also had a knee issue back during the middle of the Texas A&M game whenever he was jumping around the basket and his knee got caught under somebody falling on him - was it that same knee - I don't remember - but the point is he is the type of player who loves to jump around and do alot of high flying things due to his shot blocking abilities consequently at some point during the course of any season there are always increased chances for a player like that of getting injured because he lands the wrong way as gravity takes him back to the ground.

And like some here I was also at that Tebow UK game - and yes some UK students were polite but I certainly did also see and hear a larger than usual segment of UK people who were gleeful so to speak that somebody knocked the stuffings out of Tim because after that play there were some high five going on by a few UK football players for knocking him out the game.

Now was that right - no - but I also know that didn't represent the majority of fans that were at the game.

No body likes to see anybody get hurt because if anything that is just bad mojo karma.

[tilly]

Originally Posted by HALLGATOR

One of our posters last night said it looked like to him that the injury occurred when Noel came down after the block which would have been prior to him hitting the stanchion

That was me..and there is a still shot somewhere floating around that basically showed that. His knee was buckled just before impact with the padding at the base of the hoop.

He probably did this on the landing.

[born2beagator]

Originally Posted by gatorump

Look at what happened when Tebow got hurt. Some showed concern many were elated including the player who hit him.

I get the feeling that UK students would pull an FSU and cheer if one of our players got hurt at CoRuppt.

They didn't show much concern for Tebow when he went down, don't expect them to do differently in basketball

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who cares .... i wish him well ... but those fans are idiots

[Osiris_DPM]

Originally Posted by Jupgator

Shands is only a few minutes away so it doesn't make any sense to have an xray machine at our sporting events. It not just the machine, but technicians on standby, etc.

lol exactly. Does the standby technician get listed in the program? Who is going to interpret the x-ray images to determine whether fractures are present? Do we get a standby radiologist too? And how much sense does this sequence of events make:

"Let's get this injury x-rayed"

several minutes to prepare for x-rays, take x-rays, and read x-rays

"Yes, it's broken - let's get him in the car and drive 2 blocks to Shands so a doctor can read the same x-ray image and determine how to start treatment"

or

"No, it's not broken - let's get him in the car and drive 2 blocks to Shands so a doctor can read the same x-ray image, confirm no fractures, perform a clinical examination for potential cartilage/ligament tears, and determine whether an MRI is recommended and how to start treatment'

[Osiris_DPM]

Originally Posted by HALLGATOR

One of our posters last night said it looked like to him that the injury occurred when Noel came down after the block which would have been prior to him hitting the stanchion

The mechanism of injury for a cruciate ligament tear is hyperextension or twisting of the knee, not impact. Most ACL tears are non-contact, and occur most frequently when landing awkwardly from a jump.

An impact that causes hyperextension or flexion of the knee, such as the football helmet of a lunging football player while the leg is planted, can cause tears of both the cruciate ligaments and the collateral ligaments. Willis Magahee and Marcus Lattimore are two examples. But the first reason is why we see so many of these types of injuries during non-contact football practices every season.

Clearly, running into the basketball hoop support did not cause his knee to hyperextend, and simply banging into the support would not cause this type of injury. This happened right when he landed from his attempted block of Rosario's layup, plain and simple.

[g8tr80]

Originally Posted by Emmitto

I do. Many facilities have a premier hospital close by, or at least one with an operational X-ray machine. I still find it odd that there isn't one in the next room where future NBA millionaires regularly play. I'm not outraged or anything, and as I stated I'm confident he received proper care. And for all I know this is standard.

It costs money. You have to have a room, X-ray machine, operator and then a physician who can read the x-rays. And then, quite possibly you have to take him to Shands anyway. Easier and much better for the player to load him in an ambulance for the 3 minute ride. Get him to Shands, evaluate and then stabilize the injury, and then medicate for the long flight home which I am very sure was unpleasant.

[g8tr80]

Originally Posted by GothamGator

The latest criticisms in that thread are blaming the O'Dome saying that it is little more than a high school stadium and that the basket supports are too close to the court and that's what caused the injury.

At least we own ours.