Gator Country

MichaelJoeWilliamson · 02-11-2013, 05:43 PM

The original thread was pruned, so I thought I would start another;

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NEWBURGH Police say three masked men with handguns entered a home on South Plank Road in the Town of Newburgh Sunday evening, threatened the residents and demanded money, but were ultimately driven away by a shotgun-wielding resident of the home.

At 10 p.m. police were called to 109 South Plank Road to a report of shots being fired. Police were directed to Highland Avenue where residents reported hearing shots and seeing people running to a dark SUV. Residents of 109 South Plank Road told police that the men entered the home. One resident on the second floor grabbed a loaded shotgun and confronted a suspect in the stairway, firing a shot at him.

The resident fired two additional shots as they fled across the backyard toward Highland. It is unclear if any of the suspects were wounded. There was evidence that a window of suspect’s vehicle might have shattered. Witnesses told police the SUV headed east on Highland. None of the home’s residents were injured.

Anyone with information is asked to contact town detectives at 564-1100.

From the reports, it sounds weapon in question was probably a semi-automatic shotgun able to hold multiple rounds. If it had a pistol grip, then many gun control advocates in this forum would want it outlawed. I am sure this guy was glad he had it, since all three assailants were armed. This kind of home invasion also supports the need for higher capacity magazines.

JohnC1908 · 02-11-2013, 05:48 PM

I guess I live a charmed life. Never have I felt the need to have a gun.

rivergator · 02-11-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnC1908

I guess I live a charmed life. Never have I felt the need to have a gun.

me either. but i'm glad that resident had his shotgun when he needed it.

**reformedgator** · 02-11-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnC1908

I guess I live a charmed life. Never have I felt the need to have a gun.

I'm glad that's the case for you, but all it would take is one serious incident for your whole perspective to change.

MichaelJoeWilliamson · 02-11-2013, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnC1908

I guess I live a charmed life. Never have I felt the need to have a gun.

Me neither, in spite of owning them for many, many years. That said, if you need a gun and don't have one, you may never need one again. They are very much like parachutes in that regard.

SurfinG8or · 02-11-2013, 06:41 PM

Thats the thing. I hope I never need to pull my pistol, or take out my rifle. But I know that I'd rather have my gun nearby and not need it, than not have a gun at all and need it.

**gator1986** · 02-11-2013, 06:44 PM

I'm different then most, I hope someone breaks in one day. I got 5 guns hidden throughout my house that need to be put to use. Wouldn't want to kill, but would definitely shoot a knee out.

SurfinG8or · 02-11-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gator1986

I'm different then most, I hope someone breaks in one day. I got 5 guns hidden throughout my house that need to be put to use. Wouldn't want to kill, but would definitely shoot a knee out.

Then the guy would get a lawyer and come after you for crippling him for the rest of his life. Inside my home, I would shoot to kill if it was serious enough to cause me to pull my gun on someone.

gatornana · 02-11-2013, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelJoeWilliamson

The original thread was pruned, so I thought I would start another;

From the reports, it sounds weapon in question was probably a semi-automatic shotgun able to hold multiple rounds. If it had a pistol grip, then many gun control advocates in this forum would want it outlawed. I am sure this guy was glad he had it, since all three assailants were armed. This kind of home invasion also supports the need for higher capacity magazines.

Sounds like the wild west.....shooting outside the home a fleeing assailants. What if innocent people were out for a walk or some kids were playing nearby.

Gun ownership doesn't necessarily mean one has good judgement or aim. Higher capacity magazines mean more bullets are flying, more chance to kill an innocent bystander.

Dreamliner · 02-11-2013, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gatornana

Sounds like the wild west.....shooting outside the home a fleeing assailants. What if innocent people were out for a walk or some kids were playing nearby.

Gun ownership doesn't necessarily mean one has good judgement or aim. Higher capacity magazines mean more bullets are flying, more chance to kill an innocent bystander.

Shooting innocent people ? Sounds like the cops.

Dreamliner · 02-11-2013, 07:31 PM

Pop Quiz: Who kills more innocent people ?

(A) private sector

(B) public sector

JohnC1908 · 02-11-2013, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by reformedgator

I'm glad that's the case for you, but all it would take is one serious incident for your whole perspective to change.

You could be right. I don't have kids and I could see how my perspective could change if I did. But I feel I frequent safe areas, I lock the doors at night, and rarely feel I'm in any kind of danger.
If somebody busted my window in the middle of the night (which I find highly improbable) I could hold my own.

DSRrg · 02-11-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gator1986

I'm different then most, I hope someone breaks in one day. I got 5 guns hidden throughout my house that need to be put to use. Wouldn't want to kill, but would definitely shoot a knee out.

If someone breaks into my house that represents a clear and present danger to the life of my wife and my little girl. There would be no calling lawyers.

**gator1986** · 02-11-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SurfinG8or

Then the guy would get a lawyer and come after you for crippling him for the rest of his life. Inside my home, I would shoot to kill if it was serious enough to cause me to pull my gun on someone.

Yea in Florida we have laws to protect that, plus if you break in and endanger my families well being, killing you would be the easy way out. I would have to make them suffer, two knee caps shot out, and maybe a shoulder and an elbow... We have had 3 break ins here in my hometown over the last year that have had the homeowners pull their guns and shoot ( injure not kill ) and they got away with it, so I will go the same path lol... Man I'm twisted, oh well! You have to protect your own!

Dreamliner · 02-11-2013, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnC1908

You could be right. I don't have kids and I could see how my perspective could change if I did. But I feel I frequent safe areas, I like the doors at night, and I rarely feel like I'm in any kind of danger.
If somebody busted in my window in the middle of the night (which I find highly improbable) I feel I could hold my own.

Funny, I've sold alarm systems, for the better part of a decade, and never once witnessed a front-window break-in, much less a front-window break-in home invasion. They almost always came through the front door, secondarily a slider.

Not that people shouldn't be prudent, but it is amazing, the persistent fear among young mothers of someone smashing a bedroom window to snatch the baby out of its crib.

SurfinG8or · 02-11-2013, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gator1986

Yea in Florida we have laws to protect that, plus if you break in and endanger my families well being, killing you would be the easy way out. I would have to make them suffer, two knee caps shot out, and maybe a shoulder and an elbow... We have had 3 break ins here in my hometown over the last year that have had the homeowners pull their guns and shoot ( injure not kill ) and they got away with it, so I will go the same path lol... Man I'm twisted, oh well! You have to protect your own!

Well hopefully I never have to worry about this.

**RealGatorFan** · 02-11-2013, 09:35 PM

No one is immune to breakins these days. The laws favor the criminal so the best defense is a good offense. If an intruder enters my home he gets one chance to leave before I unload and I don't miss. Usually the sound of pumping a shotgun is enough but criminals are a bit more crazy these days.

Tasselhoff · 02-11-2013, 11:39 PM

Sorry but if you break into my house in the middle of the night....your one chance to leave is terminated. And I am no where good enough a shot to aim to wound. I aim for center mass, pull the trigger and keep pulling until you stop moving. I grew up in a not so nice area.....This was what everyone believed in...even the cops.

TnCamoGator · 02-11-2013, 11:48 PM

I have 2 pistols in my night stand next to my bed, i have 2 rifles in my closet, my wife has 2 rifles in her closet, and I have 6 others in another room. There's a long hallway between my wife and I's room with our daughters room behind us. And I'll say this, if an intruder steps in they'll be leaving in a body bag

MichaelJoeWilliamson · 02-12-2013, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by gatornana

Sounds like the wild west.....shooting outside the home a fleeing assailants. What if innocent people were out for a walk or some kids were playing nearby.

My goodness woman. Get back with us the next time you and your husband have three armed assailants attacking you in your home.

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Gun ownership doesn't necessarily mean one has good judgement or aim. Higher capacity magazines mean more bullets are flying, more chance to kill an innocent bystander.

Yea, so let us know how often all that happens. Use, you know, facts and sh&t to tell us how often innocents are killed when a gun is used in home self defense.