02-10-2013, 08:12 AM
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Will America become France
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02-10-2013, 11:21 AM
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Gator Country's Ring of Honor
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I suspect we're closer than we'd care to admit. But I suspect there is one key difference. Obama won with 30% of the eligible vote. But I gather that the substantial majority of the French have a visceral hatred for wealth and achievement.
Put another way, roughly 30% of Americans are French, whereas almost all the French are French.
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02-10-2013, 12:44 PM
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Well, I would say that if we are the next France then France must be the next Greece by inference since we are heading towards Greece more than people want to believe. Yes, we get to print money and Greece is being held captive by the EU, but Greece is merely the front runner of countries who think they can have government pay for everything. Sounds good as long as the economy is growing so that today's sins can be paid by future growth. But when the economy stagnates then the lack of growth exacerbates the increasing debt service until the money says "stop". And then cuts in services exacerbates the economy by taking water (money) away from the pumps. And then the civil unrest kicks in.
So, yes, we are France and we are heading towards what we see in Greece. No political will to do anything else. Unless you think that that is exactly what the politicos want. And then we are pretty much screwed already.
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02-10-2013, 01:05 PM
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See DHS buys ammo.
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02-10-2013, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by G8trGr8t
See DHS buys ammo.
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WTH? Why did they purchase 1.6 Billion rounds in the last 9 months alone?
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02-10-2013, 09:44 PM
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France has been Europe's ticking time bomb for most of the last year due to a variety of factors (there was an Economist article in November or so that detailed a lot of the troubling signs)--and the sheer reality is that one of two things would have to occur in order to France to (kinda) stay ahead of the creditors: revenue would have to drastically be raised...or serious cuts would have to be made.
Hollande ran on a platform of raising taxes--and thus far has been doing just that. The French economy is still in dire straights...and hopefully their citizens realize that blindly "taxing the rich" and continuing to spend your way out of financial trouble doesn't work.
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02-10-2013, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorev12
France has been Europe's ticking time bomb for most of the last year due to a variety of factors (there was an Economist article in November or so that detailed a lot of the troubling signs)--and the sheer reality is that one of two things would have to occur in order to France to (kinda) stay ahead of the creditors: revenue would have to drastically be raised...or serious cuts would have to be made.
Hollande ran on a platform of raising taxes--and thus far has been doing just that. The French economy is still in dire straights...and hopefully their citizens realize that blindly "taxing the rich" and continuing to spend your way out of financial trouble doesn't work.
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Message to the French: Duh! We all knew that raising taxes on the rich wouldn't fix a damn thing.
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02-10-2013, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Gatorrick22
Message to the French: Duh! We all knew that raising taxes on the rich wouldn't fix a damn thing.
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Another message to the French! You suck! We saved your asses in WWII, and not for us you'd be Germans. Go Merica!
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02-10-2013, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner
I suspect we're closer than we'd care to admit. But I suspect there is one key difference. Obama won with 30% of the eligible vote. But I gather that the substantial majority of the French have a visceral hatred for wealth and achievement.
Put another way, roughly 30% of Americans are French, whereas almost all the French are French.
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You'd probably be surprised how many Presidents are elected with 30% of the eligible vote. It's a meaningless red herring of a number intended somehow to prove illegitimacy.
62% of eligible voters voted in 2000 so W won with about 30-31% of the eligible vote. Like I said, it's a red herring of a statistic. Using it would make them all illegitimate.
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02-11-2013, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by GatorNorth
You'd probably be surprised how many Presidents are elected with 30% of the eligible vote. It's a meaningless red herring of a number intended somehow to prove illegitimacy.
62% of eligible voters voted in 2000 so W won with about 30-31% of the eligible vote. Like I said, it's a red herring of a statistic. Using it would make them all illegitimate.
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I gather you missed my point, which was that probably no more than 30% of Americans are French. Which was unfortunately sufficient to get the French guy elected.
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02-11-2013, 12:10 PM
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If we become France, who will become our Germany ?
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He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
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02-11-2013, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawdog88
If we become France, who will become our Germany ?
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China? Not serious, we owe them too much cash and then who would buy their crap?
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Res ipsa loquitur
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02-11-2013, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gatorrick22
WTH? Why did they purchase 1.6 Billion rounds in the last 9 months alone?
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To supply Obama's civilian national security force?
It's amazing how little media coverage there is on this.
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02-11-2013, 02:14 PM
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Looking forward to the random sexual encounters that comes with it. 
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