The Voter Fraud That ‘Never Happens’ Keeps Coming Back

[mocgator]

Nothing to see here... move along...

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...back-john-fund

Critics of voter ID and other laws cracking down on voter fraud claim they’re unnecessary because fraud is nonexistent. For instance, Brennan Center attorneys Michael Waldman and Justin Levitt claimed last year: “A person casting two votes risks jail time and a fine for minimal gain. Proven voter fraud, statistically, happens about as often as death by lightning strike.”

Well, lightning is suddenly all over Cincinnati, Ohio. The Hamilton County Board of Elections is investigating 19 possible cases of alleged voter fraud that occurred when Ohio was a focal point of the 2012 presidential election. A total of 19 voters and nine witnesses are part of the probe.

Democrat Melowese Richardson has been an official poll worker for the last quarter century and registered thousands of people to vote last year. She candidly admitted to Cincinnati’s Channel 9 this week that she voted twice in the last election.

[Matthanuf06]

We do need to button up the process to have eliminate fraud, but we also need to ramp up the penalties dramatically for fraud.

[rivergator]

Moc, want to explain how voter ID would have prevented that?

[VAg8r1]

Damn, massive fraud! 19 possible cases of voter fraud out of 421,997 ballots cast in Hamilton County in the November 2012 election.
Hamilton County election results can be download from here

[gator996]

Originally Posted by mocgator

Nothing to see here... move along...

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...back-john-fund

Critics of voter ID and other laws cracking down on voter fraud claim they’re unnecessary because fraud is nonexistent. For instance, Brennan Center attorneys Michael Waldman and Justin Levitt claimed last year: “A person casting two votes risks jail time and a fine for minimal gain. Proven voter fraud, statistically, happens about as often as death by lightning strike.”

Well, lightning is suddenly all over Cincinnati, Ohio. The Hamilton County Board of Elections is investigating 19 possible cases of alleged voter fraud that occurred when Ohio was a focal point of the 2012 presidential election. A total of 19 voters and nine witnesses are part of the probe.

Democrat Melowese Richardson has been an official poll worker for the last quarter century and registered thousands of people to vote last year. She candidly admitted to Cincinnati’s Channel 9 this week that she voted twice in the last election.

So we can count on you to support the POTUS who mentioned on election night that we need to fix voting problems that have people waiting 6-8 hrs to vote...right?

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by gator996

So we can count on you to support the POTUS who mentioned on election night that we need to fix voting problems that have people waiting 6-8 hrs to vote...right?

That is ridiculous if true. I never had to wait beyond 2 minutes to vote in my life

[MichaelJoeWilliamson]

I think most of the fraud happens at two points; voter registration and absentee balloting.

I think some kind of enhanced ID requirements for those two activities might be very helpful.

[rivergator]

Moc's original post fails on so many levels:
1. No one said that voter fraud never happens. That's something conservatives keep coming up with themselves. "Wait, I thought ...." What we've said is that it's far from widespread.
2. Obviously, Moc passed on explaining how voter ID would have prevented it. Probably because it wouldn't have.
3. Most voting fraud seems to involve absentee ballots, but Republicans have not only not targeted them in this supposed crackdown on fraud, they've actually gone out of the way to make it easier to vote absentee. Maybe that's because Republicans tend to vote more absentee. Meanwhile, Democrats tend to vote early more than Republicans, and we've seen the GOP attempt to restrict that.

Voter fraud crackdown ... you bet.

[HALLGATOR]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

That is ridiculous if true. I never had to wait beyond 2 minutes to vote in my life

It is true. They showed lines in Florida in which people had been waiting for hours to vote. This is bad for all parties.

[wgbgator]

So what we have here is a case of the existing laws being sufficient to deal with incidental, low level fraud?

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by HALLGATOR

It is true. They showed lines in Florida in which people had been waiting for hours to vote. This is bad for all parties.

Sure it is, at some point there will be people that get tired and just walk away.

[MichaelJoeWilliamson]

Originally Posted by rivergator

3. Most voting fraud seems to involve absentee ballots....

That and voter registration.

[gatorpa]

Originally Posted by HALLGATOR

It is true. They showed lines in Florida in which people had been waiting for hours to vote. This is bad for all parties.

We are spoiled in this country, we don't want to wait for anything. The crime of waiting to vote....UGH.

Perhaps we need to send people to every citizen's house, it's a pain to get off the couch I might miss something good on the Springer show.

[fredsanford]

Just wait. This story will end up having the same veracity as the "800 dead people voted in South Carolina" one.

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by fredsanford

Just wait. This story will end up having the same veracity as the "800 dead people voted in South Carolina" one.

The dead voters in South Carolina obviously fell through, no matter how many times our resident conservatives here claimed it hard truth.
In this case, you've got a woman admitting it. I imagine it's very true.

[fredsanford]

Originally Posted by rivergator

The dead voters in South Carolina obviously fell through, no matter how many times our resident conservatives here claimed it hard truth.
In this case, you've got a woman admitting it. I imagine it's very true.

For herself, sure. The rest? Who knows.

What I do know is that people who consistently rely on crap sources of information that are perpetually proven wrong really make you wonder.

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by fredsanford

For herself, sure. The rest? Who knows.

What I do know is that people who consistently rely on crap sources of information that are perpetually proven wrong really make you wonder.

Keep in mind, that even if all 19 are true, that comes to four-thousandths of a percent. But look at how bogus the piece is. Starts off saying that some people claim voter fraud is nonexistent. Then to prove it, he quotes someone saying it's really rare, not that it never happens.
I assume he's counting on his readers not noticing the difference.

[JerseyGator01]

Given the incompetence of the system, a 12-year-old could commit massive voter fraud in a state without voter ID laws and be virtually assured that he wouldn't get caught given the amateurs who are supposedly watchdogs for the system.

When absolutely NO ONE at polling place even has a clue as to what is a hint of voter fraud, they odds of someone being caught are nil. It doesn't hurt either that the average volunteer is about 90 years old with 20/200 vision.

CORRUPTION RULES!!!!!

[mdgator05]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

That is ridiculous if true. I never had to wait beyond 2 minutes to vote in my life

A pretty good summary of the issue:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/05/us...wanted=1&_r=1&

A Massachusetts Institute of Technology analysis determined that blacks and Hispanics waited nearly twice as long in line to vote on average than whites. Florida had the nation’s longest lines, at 45 minutes, followed by the District of Columbia, Maryland, South Carolina and Virginia, according to Charles Stewart III, the political science professor who conducted the analysis.

A separate analysis, by an Ohio State University professor and The Orlando Sentinel, concluded that more than 200,000 voters in Florida “gave up in frustration” without voting.

“When I got there, the line was around the building,” said Jonathan Piccolo, 33, who said he had waited nearly eight hours to cast a ballot in Miami-Dade County the Monday before Election Day.

On an anecdotal level, I know Virginia had to delay their reporting by hours this year because of lines in some of the DC suburbs and the Virginia Beach area, both in heavily minority areas.

[gatorman_07732]

Florida had the nation’s longest lines, at 45 minutes

That is a heck of big difference from 996's claim