02-08-2013, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Matthanuf06
If you pay in then there is no contradiction with getting your money back
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Exactly.
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02-08-2013, 08:35 PM
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Gator Country Diamond
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Originally Posted by FearNoSpear
Exactly.
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I've been waiting for some posters who usually take exception to this idea to chime in.
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02-08-2013, 11:39 PM
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#43
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Originally Posted by Gatorstooth
Forcing a kid to read a particular book is a great way to teach them to hate that book.
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I had to read Silas Marner. I don't know how I did it, just like I don't know how I passed trigonometry at UF.
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02-08-2013, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by wgbgator
Does Heather Has Two Mommies feature long winded speeches and rough sex? If no, then maybe Moc is right.
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I didn't know there was rough sex in Atlas Shrugged. I'm not going to read the whole thing. Can someone just give me the page numbers?
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02-09-2013, 12:56 AM
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It would have to be abridged wouldn't it? That thing is massive and a lot of kids would lose interest.
One book I really hope they still aren't making kids read is Great Expectations. That book ruined me for a long time. You can't do this to kids. Stop force-feeding them bullshit.
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02-09-2013, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cocodrilo
I had to read Silas Marner. I don't know how I did it, just like I don't know how I passed trigonometry at UF.
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I actually liked that one. I didnt expect to like it, but I did. The worst was "A Separate Peace." That was crap. I hated "The Scarlett Letter" too.
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02-09-2013, 01:22 AM
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I have never thought much of required reading lists anyway. The classics are there for those who are interested. I read a lot of fiction, mostly old books; but I dont see the necessity in much formal study. I'm willing to bet I have read more than the overwhelming majority of people who out earn me. And although life isnt only about money, if they are supporting themselves, who's to say they really need to read.
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02-09-2013, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by co_gator89
It would have to be abridged wouldn't it? That thing is massive and a lot of kids would lose interest.
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Well, then, those kids who fail the test need to be put on Ritalin. Get with the program!
Objectivism is a cult, complete with a charismatic leader, however dead she may be. Those in the Idaho legislature who are opposed to this bill should be raising that concern very loudly.
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02-09-2013, 05:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by co_gator89
It would have to be abridged wouldn't it? That thing is massive and a lot of kids would lose interest.
One book I really hope they still aren't making kids read is Great Expectations. That book ruined me for a long time. You can't do this to kids. Stop force-feeding them bullshit.
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Cliff's Notes version would be: People are greedy and selfish; you are one too.
Next.
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02-09-2013, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rpmGator
They already have more nuts in Idaho than potato's...
If you want to help kids, give them non-fiction books.
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Why not prophetic?
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02-09-2013, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by oragator1
But instead of more mandates, wouldn't the conservative or libertarian approach be to put less restrictions on what teachers can put in their curriculum and not more?
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Interesting.
How about just take the public out of public schools?
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02-09-2013, 09:48 AM
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Conservative - no.
Libertarian - yes.
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02-09-2013, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by HALLGATOR
Even if required I would bet only a very small percentage of students would actually read the whole book. I have always been an avid reader and found the book to be tiresome.
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Same here... I quit reading it about 1/3 the way through. I couldn't stay awake.
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02-09-2013, 01:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by co_gator89
It would have to be abridged wouldn't it? That thing is massive and a lot of kids would lose interest.
One book I really hope they still aren't making kids read is Great Expectations. That book ruined me for a long time. You can't do this to kids. Stop force-feeding them bullshit.
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Ironically, I am re-reading Great Expectations right now, simply for enjoyment.
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02-09-2013, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveFla
Same here... I quit reading it about 1/3 the way through. I couldn't stay awake.
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I can understand why. I made myself finish it up for some reason.
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02-09-2013, 01:46 PM
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On a separate note I have been reading the unabridged version of Les Misérables for years and I'm still not through it. Every once in awhile I'll pick it up and read some more then put it back down. It is on my bucket list to finish up though.
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02-09-2013, 01:46 PM
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Gator Country Gold
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cocodrilo
I didn't know there was rough sex in Atlas Shrugged. I'm not going to read the whole thing. Can someone just give me the page numbers?
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You will have to ask wb for his copy. Evidently he has the pages highlighted for you.
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02-09-2013, 02:22 PM
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Atlas Shrugged is a bloated piece of crap, and this is coming from a libertarian. I'm tired of this book being used as a bench mark. If I was to recommend something for a 16 year old to read it would be The Law by Frederic Bastiat
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02-09-2013, 07:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lpjax
Atlas Shrugged is a bloated piece of crap, and this is coming from a libertarian. I'm tired of this book being used as a bench mark. If I was to recommend something for a 16 year old to read it would be The Law by Frederic Bastiat
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How about The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith?
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02-09-2013, 07:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HALLGATOR
On a separate note I have been reading the unabridged version of Les Misérables for years and I'm still not through it. Every once in awhile I'll pick it up and read some more then put it back down. It is on my bucket list to finish up though.
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I can loan you my Classics Illustrated version, if you need some pix. 
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