02-11-2013, 10:41 AM
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02-11-2013, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Itssaul
Yup, even if they did they'd still shoot regardless. Even if found injured and disabled
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Yep, because there's more here than just a crazy guy mad about getting fired. Sadly, everyone is spinning it their own (for political gain) way. Right wing radio is focusing entirely on the couple of paragraphs (out of 1000s of words) that laud MSNBC and the liberal media. . . blah, blah, blah. Dems will certainly try to exploint the gun angle.
Yet nobody is addressing the very detailed claims of LAPD misconduct and the fact they'd rather ruin a guys' career than deal with the skeletons in their own closet. The sad irony of this is that his actions (killing 3 already) will allow the LAPD to vilify anyone who follows up on his suggestions for investigation and sweep it all under the rug. Oh, they are conducting an internal investigation, which will have about as much credibility as a NAMBLA investigation of Jerry Sandusky.
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02-11-2013, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CHFG8R
Yep, because there's more here than just a crazy guy mad about getting fired. Sadly, everyone is spinning it their own (for political gain) way. Right wing radio is focusing entirely on the couple of paragraphs (out of 1000s of words) that laud MSNBC and the liberal media. . . blah, blah, blah. Dems will certainly try to exploint the gun angle.
Yet nobody is addressing the very detailed claims of LAPD misconduct and the fact they'd rather ruin a guys' career than deal with the skeletons in their own closet. The sad irony of this is that his actions (killing 3 already) will allow the LAPD to vilify anyone who follows up on his suggestions for investigation and sweep it all under the rug. Oh, they are conducting an internal investigation, which will have about as much credibility as a NAMBLA investigation of Jerry Sandusky.
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It certainly is an ironic situation and, I agree, probably a situation in which the hardcore corruption of the LAPD will be given a pass. By and large, the public STILL considers cops the good guys.
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02-11-2013, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner
It certainly is an ironic situation and, I agree, probably a situation in which the hardcore corruption of the LAPD will be given a pass. By and large, the public STILL considers cops the good guys.
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The ones I know around here are pretty decent guys (Pinellas County), but the LAPD is just a freakin' sewer and has been now for decades. To think of all the crap in the 80s and 90s and they are still acting this way. Two words: Unmitigated Arrogance.
That department needs to be enema-ized from the top down.
FWIW, I still put the OJ aquittal squarely at the feet of LAPD. The Adam 12 days, it seems, are long gone out there.
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02-11-2013, 05:14 PM
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LAPD Chief Beck looks just like Xavier Cugat. I wonder if his wife looks like Abbe Lane.
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02-11-2013, 05:30 PM
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On a semirelated note, "End of Watch" was a pretty good flick.
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02-11-2013, 05:33 PM
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Jahoo News reports:
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Are police using drones in the manhunt for Christopher Dorner?
According to a report by a British newspaper, they are. On Sunday, the Express quoted a "senior police source" who said the "thermal imaging cameras the drones use may be our only hope of finding him—on the ground, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack."
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Guy is either room temperature or hiding in a cave. Or somewhere else.
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02-11-2013, 06:29 PM
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This is a job for the Navy Seals! They can write another book!
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02-11-2013, 06:36 PM
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90% of his manifesto outside of police stuff are DNC/media talking points. He suffers from mental issues and an overdose of media-fed hate.
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02-12-2013, 02:49 AM
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This is like the Eric Rudolph manhunt all over again. It seems anyone with survivalist training has no problem alluding hundreds of police officers and FBI agents.
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02-12-2013, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner
... By and large, the public STILL considers cops the good guys.
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Are you talking in generalities, or this specific situation? I'm curious as to what general sentiment is regarding both.
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02-12-2013, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by wargunfan
Mr. Dorner's heroes are all from the left wing liberal media. He thinks Piers Morgan should be given a permanent visa. Since the left called for reprisals against conservative media after several high profile shootings nearly a dozen times, including the 2009 massacre of three Pittsburgh police officers (which lib journos falsely blamed on Fox News, Glenn Beck and the "heated, apocalyptic rhetoric of the anti-Obama forces"); the 2009 suicide insurance scam/murder hoax of Kentucky census worker Bill Sparkman (which New York magazine falsely blamed on Rush Limbaugh, "conservative media personalities, websites and even members of Congress"); the 2009 Holocaust museum shooting (which MSNBC commentator Joan Walsh blamed on Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and Michelle Malkin); the 2010 Times Square jihad bomb plot (which Mayor Michael Bloomberg falsely blamed on tea party activists protesting Obamacare); and the 2011 Tucson massacre, which liberals continue to blame on former GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, can we now expect a mea culpa from left wing media as the inspiration for this lunatic??? I'm not holding my breath.
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Tim Tebow is a left wing liberal?
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02-12-2013, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by gator996
Tim Tebow is a left wing liberal?
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Is not this very forum full of unambivalent leftists who still like Tim? It isn't hard to either just ignore how different one's own ideas are from Tebow's or just imagine his ideas are different. Dorner is a leftist, it is what it is.
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02-12-2013, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MichiGator2002
Is not this very forum full of unambivalent leftists who still like Tim? It isn't hard to either just ignore how different one's own ideas are from Tebow's or just imagine his ideas are different. Dorner is a leftist, it is what it is.
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The statement made was that his "heroes" are all leftists....
Is Tebow a leftist?
The Alabama hostage taker, the Holocaust Memorial shooter, the Oklahoma City bomber, the Unibomber, etc. were all "ultra conservative" rightists...
The initial political rant from wargun is incorrect and kinda revealing....
If as wargun suggests that the "leftist" media is somehow responsible for this guy then the "conservative" media must be responsible for creating the killers mentioned above...
Do you agree with such simple conclusions?
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02-12-2013, 09:20 AM
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No, I don't think the media creates any of these people. They can create the mythology of them after the fact, perhaps. But get them started? No.
If there is a media angle to this, it is the fact that you would have no idea that the guy is a hardcore leftist without actually reading his screed, certainly not if you are depending on network news or major papers for the story. Sort of like how the attempted mass shooting at the FRC was sort of swept under the coverage rug.
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02-12-2013, 09:29 AM
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People are just crazy. There have been nuts since the beginning of time and there will be at the end. The politics and religion are just an excuse for them to somehow justify their terror.
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02-12-2013, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnC1908
People are just crazy. There have been nuts since the beginning of time and there will be at the end. The politics and religion are just an excuse for them to somehow justify their terror.
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True enough
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02-12-2013, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LabraGator
Are you talking in generalities, or this specific situation? I'm curious as to what general sentiment is regarding both.
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Generalities, witness the cop shows. Everybody wants the cops to get the bad guy in the end. Everybody says "I appreciate the work you guys do", etc.
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02-12-2013, 10:00 AM
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I think cop shows are more guilty of portraying hyper-competency of cops than sentiment that cops are always "good." That's why they always catch the bad guy, its because they are really extremely competent at their job, but usually willing to break the rules or defy convention to do so (i.e. be "bad"). In reality, cops are both flawed/incompetent (i.e. human) actors and often willing to break the rules too.
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02-12-2013, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MichiGator2002
No, I don't think the media creates any of these people. They can create the mythology of them after the fact, perhaps. But get them started? No.
If there is a media angle to this, it is the fact that you would have no idea that the guy is a hardcore leftist without actually reading his screed, certainly not if you are depending on network news or major papers for the story. Sort of like how the attempted mass shooting at the FRC was sort of swept under the coverage rug.
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And the same could be said about the hardcore conservative killers also.
I don't think the media is completely off-the-hook here...
The internet has helped to weed out moderate coverage & analysis because it just doesn't pay the bills.
If you live in a 100% left/right bubble world...which is now possible with the internet & 24 hr cable "news"...then you can cultivate some of the crazies we have in this country.
I don't know if the media creates them...but they can help foster them and agitate them.
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