Spurrier zings The Liar

[j7]

Originally Posted by Gatorrick22

He announced that he was quitting, then retracts it only to quit again. Yeah that's what all coaches do.....

To me you dodged the question. So are all or at least most coaches quitters?

[Gatorrick22]

Originally Posted by j7

To me you dodged the question. So are all or at least most coaches quitters?

NO! Most coaches are opportunists that unambiguously admit to moving up to a better coaching situations. That's not what UM did.... Not even close to what he did.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Not every coaching departure is a total 1:1, but any coach that leaves is "quitting" on a team.

[j7]

Originally Posted by Gatorrick22

NO! Most coaches are opportunists that unambiguously admit to moving up to a better coaching situations. That's not what UM did.... Not even closed.

I can't understanding how that is more admirable than what Meyer did.

[Gatorrick22]

Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

Not every coaching departure is a total 1:1, but any coach that leaves is "quitting" on a team.

He quit to spend more time with his family. How many coaches say that, only to come back after one year?

Lets all agree to disagree.

I still say he's a liar and a quitter. And he will be stealing recruits more and more often from us/Florida using the "Percy" position to do it.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Originally Posted by Gatorrick22

He quit to spend more time with his family. How many coaches say that, only to come back after one year?

I don't see how that has anything to do with the distinction. Whether he quit to spend more time with his family (which he did) or quit to go coach the Redskins, he quit.

I still say he's a liar and a quitter.

That's fine. But he no more no less "quit on his team" than did Spurrier.

[Distant Gator]

Originally Posted by Gatorrick22

He quit to spend more time with his family. How many coaches say that, only to come back after one year?

Lets all agree to disagree.

I still say he's a liar and a quitter. And he will be stealing recruits more and more often from us/Florida using the "Percy" position to do it.

IMO- he tried to do it half-way in 2010- it didn't work- and he saw that he would have to completely give his life over to the job in order to fix that mess. He wasn't willing to do so because of his family and because of his health, so he quit.

But again- him coming back benefited us far more than him. If he bolts then we lose out on our top ranked class of 2010. If he bolts then we are left scurrying for a replacement and there's a great chance we end up with another Zook. If you don't remember THAT'S HOW WE GOT ZOOK.

Instead he left in time for a smoother transistion, and I doubt Foley was surprised, and we got a good replacement.

If that's not good enough- think about this. How much better is FSU if they had Matt Elam? Probably undefeated and playing Notre Dame in the championship. IMO.

So if Meyer had not come back there's a great chance FSU is national champions right now. That's what he saved us from.

[socraticsilence]

Originally Posted by Distant Gator

IMO- he tried to do it half-way in 2010- it didn't work- and he saw that he would have to completely give his life over to the job in order to fix that mess. He wasn't willing to do so because of his family and because of his health, so he quit.

But again- him coming back benefited us far more than him. If he bolts then we lose out on our top ranked class of 2010. If he bolts then we are left scurrying for a replacement and there's a great chance we end up with another Zook. If you don't remember THAT'S HOW WE GOT ZOOK.

Instead he left in time for a smoother transistion, and I doubt Foley was surprised, and we got a good replacement.

If that's not good enough- think about this. How much better is FSU if they had Matt Elam? Probably undefeated and playing Notre Dame in the championship. IMO.

So if Meyer had not come back there's a great chance FSU is national champions right now. That's what he saved us from.

This, Meyer wanted to take time off in 2009-- 2010 is on Foley who talked him into coming back as much as it is on Meyer who wanted to leave in the first place.

And though you don't mention it can someone please explain the "Meyer quit to go to OSU theory"-- It makes no sense- the OSU job wasn't open and was in fact manned by a dominant HC (for the Big 10) when Meyer quit both the first and second times- its like saying he quit to go to Bama if Saban had left in 2010 to coach in the NFL or something.

[WESGATORS]

You can't say "Spurrier quit on his team" in the same way that "Meyer quit on his team" - two completely different scenarios. It's a bit shallow to suggest that all coaches "quit" on their team. Coaches also aren't "quitting" when they take a step up (Coach Meyer didn't quit on Utah, Coach Spurrier didn't quit on Duke).

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Literally, you absolutely can.

[elrongator]

Meyer sucks donkey dork.
Why are folks that call themselves Gators so riled up to defend that douche bag?!!?
If you love him so much and are so grateful for what he did, and how he left then buy yourself a red sweater vest and keep cheering for him.
If not then just let it go.
You are never convincing me he is equal to Spurrier as a Gator, nor are you ever going to get me to say he left on good terms... He didn't, he shed crocodile tears, then flat out lied.
He said, "I wouldn't want to leave Florida only to go coach somewhere else a year or two later", but that's exactly what he did.
As for being with his family, that's a joke too. I happen to know for a fact that he spent less time with his family as an ESPN analyst than he did as our head coach. Heard his wife talking about it at the dentist we shared in Gainesville.
I also can't believe anyone doubts that he was targeting the OSU job, as their head coach was in very hot water and was on his way out due to the serious cheating/lying to NCAA allegations that had been levied before Urbs left UF for the second time.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he had spoken to OSU to assure them he'd be willing to take that job just to insure that they did part ways with Tressle.
Get off your knees and stop slurping Urban juice and start being Gator fans.
That dick head is our enemy now and needs to get the hell out of our recruiting grounds!!!
I am sick of even seeing his name in this forum.

[gatorsfan530]

Originally Posted by elrongator

Meyer sucks donkey dork.
Why are folks that call themselves Gators so riled up to defend that douche bag?!!?
If you love him so much and are so grateful for what he did, and how he left then buy yourself a red sweater vest and keep cheering for him.
If not then just let it go.
You are never convincing me he is equal to Spurrier as a Gator, nor are you ever going to get me to say he left on good terms... He didn't, he shed crocodile tears, then flat out lied.
He said, "I wouldn't want to leave Florida only to go coach somewhere else a year or two later", but that's exactly what he did.
As for being with his family, that's a joke too. I happen to know for a fact that he spent less time with his family as an ESPN analyst than he did as our head coach. Heard his wife talking about it at the dentist we shared in Gainesville.
I also can't believe anyone doubts that he was targeting the OSU job, as their head coach was in very hot water and was on his way out due to the serious cheating/lying to NCAA allegations that had been levied before Urbs left UF for the second time.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he had spoken to OSU to assure them he'd be willing to take that job just to insure that they did part ways with Tressle.
Get off your knees and stop slurping Urban juice and start being Gator fans.
That dick head is our enemy now and needs to get the hell out of our recruiting grounds!!!
I am sick of even seeing his name in this forum.

Classy post

[GATORAZ]

If Meyer was so terrible as a person and a coach why are people still so hurt he left?

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Originally Posted by elrongator

Meyer sucks donkey dork.
Why are folks that call themselves Gators so riled up to defend that douche bag?!!?
If you love him so much and are so grateful for what he did, and how he left then buy yourself a red sweater vest and keep cheering for him.
If not then just let it go.
You are never convincing me he is equal to Spurrier as a Gator, nor are you ever going to get me to say he left on good terms... He didn't, he shed crocodile tears, then flat out lied.
He said, "I wouldn't want to leave Florida only to go coach somewhere else a year or two later", but that's exactly what he did.
As for being with his family, that's a joke too. I happen to know for a fact that he spent less time with his family as an ESPN analyst than he did as our head coach. Heard his wife talking about it at the dentist we shared in Gainesville.
I also can't believe anyone doubts that he was targeting the OSU job, as their head coach was in very hot water and was on his way out due to the serious cheating/lying to NCAA allegations that had been levied before Urbs left UF for the second time.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he had spoken to OSU to assure them he'd be willing to take that job just to insure that they did part ways with Tressle.
Get off your knees and stop slurping Urban juice and start being Gator fans.
That dick head is our enemy now and needs to get the hell out of our recruiting grounds!!!
I am sick of even seeing his name in this forum.

You're right. Enough of Meyer. It's a new day. And it's a new parade. I think it's time to just come out of the closet, and really embrace the direction Muschamp is going in with this program.

[Swampmaster]

did spurrier quit on the redskins because of fan criticism and unrealistic expectations?

[tilly]

Originally Posted by elrongator

Meyer sucks donkey dork.
Why are folks that call themselves Gators so riled up to defend that douche bag?!!?
If you love him so much and are so grateful for what he did, and how he left then buy yourself a red sweater vest and keep cheering for him.
If not then just let it go.
You are never convincing me he is equal to Spurrier as a Gator, nor are you ever going to get me to say he left on good terms... He didn't, he shed crocodile tears, then flat out lied.
He said, "I wouldn't want to leave Florida only to go coach somewhere else a year or two later", but that's exactly what he did.
As for being with his family, that's a joke too. I happen to know for a fact that he spent less time with his family as an ESPN analyst than he did as our head coach. Heard his wife talking about it at the dentist we shared in Gainesville.
I also can't believe anyone doubts that he was targeting the OSU job, as their head coach was in very hot water and was on his way out due to the serious cheating/lying to NCAA allegations that had been levied before Urbs left UF for the second time.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he had spoken to OSU to assure them he'd be willing to take that job just to insure that they did part ways with Tressle.
Get off your knees and stop slurping Urban juice and start being Gator fans.
That dick head is our enemy now and needs to get the hell out of our recruiting grounds!!!
I am sick of even seeing his name in this forum.

Defending Urban is not equal to saying he's "better than Spurrier".

And your post is warchant classy.

[phatGator]

Originally Posted by tilly

Defending Urban is not equal to saying he's "better than Spurrier".

And your post is warchant classy.

Exactly!

[Lawdog88]

Originally Posted by GATORAZ

If Meyer was so terrible as a person and a coach why are people still so hurt he left?

There are a lot of people who think Urbs was terrible as a person and as a coach, and are not hurt one bit that he left.

I am not one of those, but there are plenty. There are also plenty that are mediocre on Urbs as a person and coach, who are happy he left.

I daresay the "so hurt he left" group . . . is pretty small.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by socraticsilence

I'm not so sure abot either of your assertions: first, name the dual threat qb Spurrier recruited while at Florda who actually played QB, secondly stick Tebow in pro style and he's nowhere near as successful, he's good and has great leadership attributes but no one has him in the top 5 all time among College Qbs much less among all college players.

Pro style in college? I beg to differ. I believe he'd do just fine. I still stand by my comment that Spurrier would take him. It's obvious you know the answer to the dual threat QB question you asked But Tim is Tim. He'd fit any system in college. Completely different game.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by phatGator

I think you missed my point. My question is would SOS have recruited Tim to play QB? Maybe he would have. But at that point in time I don't think SOS had evolved to a spread option type QB. One hint would be if he recruited Tim to Carolina. He did recruit Ingle Martin, I believe, who was somewhat of a runner.

Of course, since you know Tim personally I would never argue with you about what he might have done, but I wonder if he would have gone to UF if he could not play QB.

It's all just speculation. All we really know is what really happened.

No I definitely see your point. I'd just find it very hard for him to pass up somebody of Tim's caliber at QB when he knows he wanted to be a Gator his entire life.

You asked a good question about would Tim still go to UF if he wasn't going as a QB. I don't believe that ever crossed his mind. I believe he would've talked Spurrier into giving him a chance if Spurrier didn't recruit him right away.