Purifoy arrested for Marijuana

[Sylez_G_Koolaid]

Originally Posted by UFreak

why did the moron throw the joint out of the car? Any good pot head knows it's time to eat when the fuzz is closing in. Not to mention, everyone needed to start eating the 2.5 grams when the car was getting pulled over. That isn't very much.

This guy gets it.

[Bradass]

Originally Posted by Sylez_G_Koolaid

This guy gets it.

No, these guys get it:
http://swampland.time.com/2013/02/06...ticle-mostpop2

[scamgtr]

Originally Posted by The_Graygator

Crazy talk? Because you say it is? lol

Have you forgotten the 2010 and 2011 seasons already? This non-discipline attitude was one of the main reasons for those struggles those seasons. I don;t care how good a player is, they should all be held accountable IMO.

If all this is true, then Louchez gets this oen chance to redeem himself, and if he does this agin, BOOM!, he's gone.

With all due respect Gray, because you are a well-respected poster, this is a very weak case. The arrest affidavit bears this out. He may be guilty of not choosing friends wisely, but Daniel Webster could not even pin this on him.

The State is saying he possessed the cannabis. I cannot find where he possessed it in the Arrest Affidavit. State has to prove possession beyond a reasonable doubt. Typically, to establish possession one has to have the ability to control the said substance. In this case the arrest affidavit states that it was in the front seat near the driver. As a prosecutor you would have to say that Mr. Purifoy had control of the substance. As a practical matter, if he is in the back seat how could he have controlled it when the substance was sitting next to another person. They also found no residue on him as they did the other passenger. Officer X also said that the other passenger threw out the cannabis cigarette. Officer X did not state anywhere in the Arrest Affidavit that he ever saw Mr. Purifoy possess any of the substance, or throw the cigarette out the window, or that he had any residue on his person.

If I am his defense attorney, all I need to establish is reasonable doubt. Based upon these facts, there is reasonable doubt here. You establish there were others present in the car and where the marijuana was found. Then you ask the final question of Officer X, "Did you see Mr. Purifoy possess the baggie, the marijuana cigarette, did he have any marijuana residue on his person?" The answer would be no based on what he wrote in the Arrest Affidavit. If he changes his testimony from what is in the Arrest Affidavit he looks like a liar because why did he not include that information at first. As a practical matter, there is a higher probability that others were in control of it. The very facts would implode this case in a bench trial, much less in front of a jury.

In my opinion, this is what happened in reality- no one in the car made incriminating statements. Therefore, Officer X got upset no one would cop to it. Therefore, he charged all three because he could not pin it on any one of them. At best, it is a sign of an inexperienced an non-confident LEO that needs a refresher in the basics of what is needed to prove one of the most common cases he works with; at worst he is an egomaniac that lets his pride get in the way of his better judgement. He should have stuck with the Driver and the Front Seat Passenger and clearly articulated his reasons for doing so (e.g., Driver had baggie next to him on the front seat; it was within his radius of control as he would not have had to move to move to grab it and I saw the lit cannabis cigarette tossed out of the passenger window by Front Seat Passenger where Front Seat Passenger was sitting, I recovered the cigarette and established from its smell and my Law Enforcement training that it was cannabis).

Many times officers take short cuts with things of this nature, they charge people with crimes that cannot be proven all the time. They create unnecessary extra work for judges, clerks, secretaries, prosecutors, defense attorneys and the jails. These may seem like trivial points, but arresting people that you cannot prove the case on is a huge waste of time and resources that should be devoted to crimes that the State can actually prove. This is not an isolated case and cases like these add up over the course of a year. Moreover, you are impacting a person's freedom and reputation. I am not against law enforcement per se, but in my opinion and legal experience; this case is a dog and I think that it reflects poorly on the officer's judgement. You don't arrest a person to make a point or because you are angry that the Defendant is not making your job easier.

This may show bad judgement on Mr. Purifoy's part, but who knows; maybe he needed a ride or maybe he had some other good reason he was with these guys. Sometimes there are not obvious reasons why people get caught up in these situations.

Therefore, based on what I read here, Champ should have a come to Jesus meeting with Mr. Purifoy and make him do some considerable stadiums for this lapse in judgement; but this is certainly not a case where he should be a criminal defendant.

[socraticsilence]

Originally Posted by rserina

Funny that the "troublemakers" didn't hurt us in 2006 or 2008.

Seriously, if anyone thinks Percy for example was a model citizen they may want to read up a bit.

[UFreak]

Only dopes use dope

[GatorAvatar]

Originally Posted by OaktownGator

Official report indicated "violation of right of way"... could describe something like making a right hand turn from a stop sign into traffic and not allowing enough room for the traffic already coming in that lane.

Can be a very subjective way to pull over anybody you want to pull over.

Likelihood it was a typical DWB stop and fishing expedition? I'd say pretty damned high.

Agreed. GPD would arrest our players for walking too fast.

[tilly]

I'm in the minority here. I side with Gray... Based on the thinking that of it happens again it then makes this situation seem more legitimate.

The true tale on if he is guilty or just guilty of bad company will be told by if something similar happens again.

Its relatively easy to never get caught riding around with guys who have pot in the car...many of us have somehow managed....but its much easier to not let it ever happen again.

Time will tell.

[GatorAvatar]

Originally Posted by socraticsilence

Seriously, if anyone thinks Percy for example was a model citizen they may want to read up a bit.

Percy was a burner, on and off the field.

[scamgtr]

Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

Percy was a burner, on and off the field.

That's funny chit right there!

[tilly]

Originally Posted by scamgtr

That's funny chit right there!

Maybe Tom Petty could return and do a benefit to encourage our guys to take a "Last Dance with Mary Jane."

[GATORAZ]

Jason Lieser ‏@PBPjasonlieser
UF statement on Loucheiz Purifoy's arrest for misdemeanor poss. of marijuana: "Coach Muschamp is aware of the incident & is handling it."

[gator2109]

He may not legally be charged but it's pretty obvious he was smoking it as well or would have been if the joint had not made it to him. CWM should treat it as him being fully charged with possession so either way he is on a thin line with this and knows the consequences.

[socraticsilence]

Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

Percy was a burner, on and off the field.

I'm not saying its a coincidence he started missing games with migraines when he started playing in a league with strict drug testing, I'm just saying Percy might want to look into playing for the Seahawks or the Broncos at some point and see if those headaches clear up a bit.

[gator2109]

Originally Posted by socraticsilence

I'm not saying its a coincidence he started missing games with migraines when he started playing in a league with strict drug testing, I'm just saying Percy might want to look into playing for the Seahawks or the Broncos at some point and see if those headaches clear up a bit.

He missed games at UF too due to migraines? Remember the USCe game one season off the top of my head. Probably others.

[mac4lyfe]

Here we go again... As a former UF football player, I have to take any arrest by UPD/GPD with a grain of salt. I know for certain that they would target athletes and fraternities when I attended and speaking to many students after it appears much of the same. Both police departments have had a history of corruption and overzealous cops. I know they have had to fire crooked campus cops shooting students and egging passerby's, etc. Just a couple of years ago, there was recent hirings and one of the big issues was racial profiling and being out of touch with the community.

I see this case and wonder how do you go from pulling the car over to actually searching the vehicle??? Too much time on their hands and abuse of power to end up searching property illegally. I'm not trying to take up for Purifoy but this reeks of racial profiling.

[FearNoSpear]

I'm so sick of the witch hunt on weed. I dont smoke but what do i care if someone does? I'm also tired of the hypocrisy of some law enforcement officers.

I fish in tournaments with law enforcement officers who get sh!t faced while operating their boats and drive away hammered only to go home and rest up to hypocritically hunt down those who do the same the following weekend. Enter one of these county Sheriff tournaments one time and observe. They are worse offenders than any other tournament I fish in. Especially the Marion County guys in the annual redfish tournament out in crystal river. I wish Citrus County would set up a DUI check for them like Marion does for gator fans on 441 after home games.

4 friends of mine who are sheriffs deputies smoked more weed than the 2008 National Championship team back in our day and brag about busting the kids they catch today. They are punks. Who the hell wants to grow up and be a professional tattle tail anyway?

Spare me on how all of these guys are heroes just for being on the force. Sure you have one on occasion but for the most part they don't protect and they don't serve. They document the mess after it happens and go to extremes to catch their neighbors in harmless offenses that they themselves commit. Like *gasp* speeding!

They care more about each other than those that pay for their glorified easy a$$ jobs. Don't believe me? If someone kills a citizen they do what they can. If someone kills a cop every deputy is out there trying to find the guy. Even if it was a freaking police dog. Then they hold press conferences to flaunt the fact that one of them is more important than one of you if you unfortunately ever happened to be a victim.

Reputations are earned. If cops don't want people to have negative opinions of them then they need to start a campaign to clean up their image and quit antagonizing the public. If they did as much I'd embrace them and respect them again like I did when I was a naive kid.

I realize that a lot of what I wrote wont be popular. My opinion isn't changing and I respectively disagree with anything contradictory to my sentiment. For the record I've never been arrested nor has anyone in my family. I've never committed a serious crime (sure I've sped) and I've never lost a loved one to a criminal. I'm just observant.

My apologies to the very few that actually are good intentioned law enforcement officers who joined for the right reasons and conduct themselves accordingly.

[mac4lyfe]

Originally Posted by gator2109

He may not legally be charged but it's pretty obvious he was smoking it as well or would have been if the joint had not made it to him. CWM should treat it as him being fully charged with possession so either way he is on a thin line with this and knows the consequences.

What? How is it obvious that he was smoking or intended to smoke? I can't tell you how many times I got in a car with friends of friends who ended up lighting up or had just finished lighting up. If you're a college student, you're probably going to be put in precarious situations involving woman, drugs and alcohol. It's a fine line between telling them to stop and walking a long distance home. UF may be different today but weed was pretty prevalent 20 years ago.

I remember me and another guy being in a car with 3 girls that were smoking (literally and figuratively). Neither of us did but we both were tested a few days later. He somehow came up positive even though he never smoked. Talk about contact high. That was probably the last time I got in a car with smokers. You live and learn but it isn't easy.

[geauxgator1]

Originally Posted by FearNoSpear

I'm so sick of the witch hunt on weed. I dont smoke but what do i care if someone does? I'm also tired of the hypocrisy of some law enforcement officers.

I fish in tournaments with law enforcement officers who get sh!t faced while operating their boats and drive away hammered only to go home and rest up to hypocritically hunt down those who do the same the following weekend. Enter one of these county Sheriff tournaments one time and observe. They are worse offenders than any other tournament I fish in. Especially the Marion County guys in the annual redfish tournament out in crystal river. I wish Citrus County would set up a DUI check for them like Marion does for gator fans on 441 after home games.

4 friends of mine who are sheriffs deputies smoked more weed than the 2008 National Championship team back in our day and brag about busting the kids they catch today. They are punks. Who the hell wants to grow up and be a professional tattle tail anyway?

Spare me on how all of these guys are heroes just for being on the force. Sure you have one on occasion but for the most part they don't protect and they don't serve. They document the mess after it happens and go to extremes to catch their neighbors in harmless offenses that they themselves commit. Like *gasp* speeding!

They care more about each other than those that pay for their glorified easy a$$ jobs. Don't believe me? If someone kills a citizen they do what they can. If someone kills a cop every deputy is out there trying to find the guy. Even if it was a freaking police dog. Then they hold press conferences to flaunt the fact that one of them is more important than one of you if you unfortunately ever happened to be a victim.

Reputations are earned. If cops don't want people to have negative opinions of them then they need to start a campaign to clean up their image and quit antagonizing the public. If they did as much I'd embrace them and respect them again like I did when I was a naive kid.

I realize that a lot of what I wrote wont be popular. My opinion isn't changing and I respectively disagree with anything contradictory to my sentiment. For the record I've never been arrested nor has anyone in my family. I've never committed a serious crime (sure I've sped) and I've never lost a loved one to a criminal. I'm just observant.

My apologies to the very few that actually are good intentioned law enforcement officers who joined for the right reasons and conduct themselves accordingly.

Here Here Spear.. these guys are a damnable crew, especailly GPD..we all know they have an agenda, seems like many of the good old boys maybe a bit jealous of the athletes, Again, it's no one's fault but the City for letting them operate in the fashion they do. Campus cops, different story. This arrest of Purifoy was unwarranted, so same old story. The University should pull out and move to another city that would treat the students, et al, fairly. I know that won't happen, (just making a point for the literalists)...much easier to start with the GPD and clean house, and I know that won't happen either.



OTOH, Purifoy needs someone to pound some sense into him (figuratively speaking).

[geauxgator1]

Originally Posted by The_Graygator

First strike, and if he gets another one, boot him IMO.

I like that Muschamp has cleaned out the locker room of trouble-makers and trust him to make the right decision about this.

I like what Mushcamp has done too. He sent Jenkins packing and the guy was one of the very best if not best player on the team. In this situation I am not aware of all the facts, but this is a flimsy case, but, he can't just turn his back on the situation and act like it's not a big deal. It's a trite saying but it is hard to be a kid these days, because what he was caught doing is nothing compared to how myself and some of my "buds" acted when I was in school. The athletes have a greater responsibility to the school and their team, so it takes a great deal of discipline to stay on the straight and narrow. Not easy soemtimes for some of these kids.
I have a lot of faith in WM's ability to deal with these issues in a positive way.

[gator2109]

Originally Posted by mac4lyfe

What? How is it obvious that he was smoking or intended to smoke? I can't tell you how many times I got in a car with friends of friends who ended up lighting up or had just finished lighting up. If you're a college student, you're probably going to be put in precarious situations involving woman, drugs and alcohol. It's a fine line between telling them to stop and walking a long distance home. UF may be different today but weed was pretty prevalent 20 years ago.

I remember me and another guy being in a car with 3 girls that were smoking (literally and figuratively). Neither of us did but we both were tested a few days later. He somehow came up positive even though he never smoked. Talk about contact high. That was probably the last time I got in a car with smokers. You live and learn but it isn't easy.

OK. Either way he's now on notice as it should be so it doesn't really matter what his intentions were.