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Matthanuf06 · 02-07-2013, 11:06 AM

Not sure of your point. Results based analysis is an absolutely terrible to strategize. It is literally the worst thing you can do in sports. The fact that a play worked at some point means close to zero. You can go up and down sports, in any league, and find instances where bad process met good result. Yet, again look across sports, if you continue the bad process you get predictable results. The most obvious scenario is in bad fastball pitcher will get a swing and miss occasionally from a great fastball hitter...but over the long run he's going to get crushed if he relies on that pitch.

**OaktownGator** · 02-07-2013, 11:09 AM

How many 80 yard TD plays did we have last season?

Why would we pull any of them completely out of the playbook?

To your analogy with the pitcher against a great fastball hitter... not everyone is a great fastball hitter. You test the other team and see whether they have the play defended soundly. If they don't, you come back to it.

Matthanuf06 · 02-07-2013, 11:10 AM

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So based on his 4 passing attempts last season, you declare him a terrible passer? Btw, he completed 3 of them. I don't think it is a Trey issue, rather they just don't call passing plays for him. He runs the wildcat.

If he was able to throw they would throw more out of the wildcat. It is the only way to get the numbers truly in your favor.

GATORAZ · 02-07-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthanuf06

Not sure of your point. Results based analysis is an absolutely terrible to strategize. It is literally the worst thing you can do in sports. The fact that a play worked at some point means close to zero. You can go up and down sports, in any league, and find instances where bad process met good result. Yet, again look across sports, if you continue the bad process you get predictable results. The most obvious scenario is in bad fastball pitcher will get a swing and miss occasionally from a great fastball hitter...but over the long run he's going to get crushed if he relies on that pitch.

You know whats not a terrible way to strategize? Being multiple. The wildcat is another things other teams have to prepare for when they are about to play for Florida. If they dont prepare well then Florida will have great results in the package. UT was confused against the wildcat.

Matthanuf06 · 02-07-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GATORAZ

You know whats not a terrible way to strategize? Being multiple. The wildcat is another things other teams have to prepare for when they are about to play for Florida. If they dont prepare well then Florida will have great results in the package. UT was confused against the wildcat.

UT couldn't stop anyone.

I do not disagree about multiple looks. But then again, an extra look that is ineffective isn't really a good diversifier. I'm not against the Wildcat, mathematically a run only Wildcat is a great short yardage play. When you run it for other goals, it's terrible.

GATORAZ · 02-07-2013, 11:31 AM

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UT couldn't stop anyone.

I do not disagree about multiple looks. But then again, an extra look that is ineffective isn't really a good diversifier. I'm not against the Wildcat, mathematically a run only Wildcat is a great short yardage play. When you run it for other goals, it's terrible.

Nobody is expecting to get 80 yards runs on the wildcat. It is not an ineffective look. Other teams have to prepare for it if they dont they will get gashed. Like I said in my earlier post they run it a few times in the first half. If it doesnt work its scraped. If it does work they come back to it in the 2nd half.

rserina · 02-07-2013, 12:05 PM

I don't see what the issue is. Probably a third of the teams in the country run some version of the play provided they have a guy who is a threat to do it effectively. When Burton is gone, it may be a different story, but for now he is good on the iso runs, he sets up his blocks well, and when we run the zone read stuff he does a nice job reading the play and making a decision. It isn't like the single wing is our base offense or something.

geauxgator1 · 02-07-2013, 05:48 PM

Got to keep the wildact in to some extent. Other teams need to prepare for it.

GeomatGator · 02-07-2013, 07:43 PM

This makes no sense. If Purifoy is such a great playmaker with the ball in his hands, he should stay at DB. He would have a much greater chance of catching passes from opposing QBs than from Driskel.

geauxgator1 · 02-07-2013, 08:29 PM

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This makes no sense. If Purifoy is such a great playmaker with the ball in his hands, he should stay at DB. He would have a much greater chance of catching passes from opposing QBs than from Driskel.

Ouch... give Driskel some time. He'll be ok.

socraticsilence · 02-07-2013, 09:11 PM

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Ouch... give Driskel some time. He'll be ok.

If we could reverse the season I'd feel a lot more optimistic about Driskel's play-- how can a guy seem to develop a bit early on (the first 4 games) and then with only a few bright spots regress- he had 15 practices prior to the bowl and played arguably his worst game of the year (he looked acceptable when we went spread once the game was out of hand but lets face it we aren't going to go 4 and 5 wide too often for as long as Boom is the coach). I don't know I guess i just feel a lot like I felt going into 2011, when we were all hoping Brantley would make the leap but had that nagging feeling it wouldn't happen.

geauxgator1 · 02-07-2013, 09:57 PM

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If we could reverse the season I'd feel a lot more optimistic about Driskel's play-- how can a guy seem to develop a bit early on (the first 4 games) and then with only a few bright spots regress- he had 15 practices prior to the bowl and played arguably his worst game of the year (he looked acceptable when we went spread once the game was out of hand but lets face it we aren't going to go 4 and 5 wide too often for as long as Boom is the coach). I don't know I guess i just feel a lot like I felt going into 2011, when we were all hoping Brantley would make the leap but had that nagging feeling it wouldn't happen.

No, I hear ya'..but he's still young and has a lot of talent. I see him needing the offseason and another spring working with Pease. Oh, and some better OL play will help out a lot.

AFCyberGator · 02-07-2013, 11:19 PM

Now Purifoy needs to avoid marijuana for a while or else he may not get a shot to play receiver.

rserina · 02-07-2013, 11:27 PM

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If we could reverse the season I'd feel a lot more optimistic about Driskel's play-- how can a guy seem to develop a bit early on (the first 4 games) and then with only a few bright spots regress- he had 15 practices prior to the bowl and played arguably his worst game of the year (he looked acceptable when we went spread once the game was out of hand but lets face it we aren't going to go 4 and 5 wide too often for as long as Boom is the coach). I don't know I guess i just feel a lot like I felt going into 2011, when we were all hoping Brantley would make the leap but had that nagging feeling it wouldn't happen.

Outside of one bomb to Kight, Leak struggled against Iowa under the same conditions. Tebow barely hit 50% of his passes against Michigan in a loss. Both quarterbacks had far better playmakers around them than Driskel did against Louisville.

But I suspect nothing will get that nagging feeling out of your stomach until Muschamp is gone, so grab some Rolaids.

Tebowism0823 · 02-07-2013, 11:57 PM

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Uhhh...Chipper is from Pierson. The Fern Capital of Florida. Not even that close to Deland (the other side of Lake George State Forest). And he didn't sign with Florida because he knew essentially from his Sophomore year he was going to be a first round pick. But he most definitely grew up a huge Gator (one of my best friends is from Pierson and her family is close with the Joneses).

I personally like what Chipper tweeted. Chipper brought it every night for two decades and is headed for the HOF. In my book, he earned the right to give them shit. If the team didn't like it, they should endeavor to play better.

Chipper is from Deland but grew up in Pierson so you're both correct.

DangerDays10 · 02-08-2013, 12:00 AM

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Chipper is from Deland

Chipper is from Pierson. I live like five houses down from the house he grew up in. He's a family friend.

Tebowism0823 · 02-08-2013, 12:02 AM

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Chipper is from Pierson. I live like five houses down from the house he grew up in. He's a family friend.

I edited my post. He was born in Deland.

DangerDays10 · 02-08-2013, 12:04 AM

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Chipper is from Pierson. I live like five houses down from the house he grew up in. He's a family friend.

Washington Ave in Pierson, passed the high school. If any chipper-Pierson doubters want, I can go by and get the house number off the mail box lol

Tebowism0823 · 02-08-2013, 12:11 AM

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Washington Ave in Pierson, passed the high school. If any chipper-Pierson doubters want, I can go by and get the house number off the mail box lol

No need to stalk

DangerDays10 · 02-08-2013, 12:26 AM

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No need to stalk

Touche