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HALLGATOR · 02-05-2013, 09:27 PM

When looking at the stat line you would expect their shooting percentage to be higher than ours, especially after they started out red hot and it was but not as bad as I would have thought...... 49.1% from them and 41.1% for us. Other stats such as rebounds, assists and steals were fairly even. The one biggie though is turnovers. We turned the ball over 16 times to their 8 tonight and a lot of those were not forces but rather careless handling of the ball. Erik really had a hard time tonight but he was not alone.

tommyuf21 · 02-05-2013, 09:32 PM

The problem with the stats is that it doesn't show how hot they were at the beginning in order to get the big lead. It certainly balanced itself over the course of the game and the 11 point final margin reflected it.

Turnovers hurt us when we were attempting a comeback. We sure left a lot of points out there with the missed bunnies, especially when Scottie whiffed those two early pull ups.

HALLGATOR · 02-05-2013, 09:36 PM

Missing those easy layups just killed any chance for a comeback we were working on. We would have gotten under 10 at one point had we made those. That would have been a big psychological boost for us.

akaGatorhoops · 02-05-2013, 09:36 PM

I do not have the numbers in front of me, but I am guessing we lost the rebounding margin... and that is inexcusable. This is a team that USC slaughtered on the boards, and we waxed USC by +14.

**hgators** · 02-05-2013, 09:37 PM

We never quit and that loss will help us more than a win would have.

gtr2x · 02-05-2013, 09:37 PM

When SW takes 15 shots and is the leading shot taker, it's not a good thing imo.

It sure seemed like there were a lot more than 16 turnovers. Team looked a step slow and lackadaisical all night. Of course that could be said of me also, since I forgot to turn the game on until we were down 20.

born2beagator · 02-05-2013, 09:38 PM

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We never quit and that loss will help us more than a win would have.

Meh. Would rather have not had to take the loss. and they sure look like they were moping in the first half. 2nd half was much better, but they had dug themselves too deep by then

HALLGATOR · 02-05-2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by akaGatorhoops

I do not have the numbers in front of me, but I am guessing we lost the rebounding margin... and that is inexcusable. This is a team that USC slaughtered on the boards, and we waxed USC by +14.

Not according to ESPN. We edged them 31-30 and there is no doubt they got a lot of lucky bounces off missed shots tonight.

gatordavisl · 02-05-2013, 10:17 PM

It seemed that most of the loose balls bounced their way. I would imagine that they took quite a few more shots than we did.

gogators73 · 02-05-2013, 10:19 PM

There's really not a lot stats taht can even tell about tonight.

They hit about 10 shots that normally go in about 10% of the time vs. us.

We certainly had defensive breakdowns but they hit really tough shots. Credit to them. Good luck doing it in Gainesville.

tommyuf21 · 02-05-2013, 10:21 PM

The got the 50/50 balls and started off 15-20 from the field. I think their early success led to some frustration and we definitely didn't play with the aggressiveness that was needed.

We had a couple of other opponents start off hot too, but they weren't the same caliber team as Arky.

**oragator1** · 02-05-2013, 10:28 PM

This game was exactly what I was talking about when I was critical after Ole Miss. It was inevitable, they were starting to not do the little things right because they had a false sense of security. Tonight it was 1 on 1 shot making, bad TO's leading to run outs, poor decision making on fouls (and yes we didn't get the benefit of the doubt tonight but we sure as heck didn't help with many we gave up), poor game awareness, not getting a hand up on a bunch of those threes (Billy mentioned that in his in-game), and generally failing to stay calm and play through the adversity. Hopefully it doesn't become a trend but rather something to give them motivation closing out the season.

tommyuf21 · 02-05-2013, 10:31 PM

The one on ones are what bother me the most. Rosario is our best finisher at the rim among our guards, but Boynton and Wilbekin have to be a little more careful than they were tonight. Noel will have a swat fest next Tuesday if they try it again.

gatorbogey · 02-05-2013, 10:36 PM

good time to get that 're-set' game. have an extra day to put in some practice before miss state and then get ready for UK coming into town next week.

re-focus. work on our weeknesses. strengthen our strengths.
get prather back to playing well. expand MF2's involvement. get yegeutte 'back' healthy?

InstiGATOR1 · 02-05-2013, 11:00 PM

Well certainly a lot of myth were punctured tonight and we learned a lot.

1. Defense does NOT in fact show up every day. UF scored enough to win most nights with its normal points allowed.

2. I really do not think it was defense as much as their shots were falling. Sometimes the other guys just shoot well, usually in their gym.

3. I said in a post in the last couple of days, I was worried that UAR might regress to their mean in outside shooting. Since they were shooting under 30% from the arc as a team and BJ Young was shooting 25% and I suspected their true values were not that low, regression to the mean meant above those season values. I feared this kind of shooting night for them.

4. If you get a rep for getting into people's grills on defense, the other teams may feel they must play defense that well to win against you. That certainly seemed the case with UAR. So UF better expect that kind of defensive effort against them all the time.

5. If officials want to call a cheap screen foul for Young for his second first half foul, they can probably do it every game.

6. As others have said, Yeguete is the biggest worry about this game. Young bounced back from knee tendonitis last year but it took an off season. I fear Yeguete will not be himself again this season.

7. It is a shame win or lose that Prather did produce during the extra minutes due to Yeguete essentially not playing. As other said, it may come from him as he plays minutes in more games up coming.

WESGATORS · 02-05-2013, 11:05 PM

Arkansas is a terrible 3-point shooting team, and they hit 8 of 18 tonight. They usually get out-rebounded, so them out-rebounding us tonight was another big problem.

Of course Yeguete playing only 1 minute didn't help.

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

ATL_Gator · 02-06-2013, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1

Well certainly a lot of myth were punctured tonight and we learned a lot.

1. Defense does NOT in fact show up every day. UF scored enough to win most nights with its normal points allowed.

2. I really do not think it was defense as much as their shots were falling. Sometimes the other guys just shoot well, usually in their gym.

3. I said in a post in the last couple of days, I was worried that UAR might regress to their mean in outside shooting. Since they were shooting under 30% from the arc as a team and BJ Young was shooting 25% and I suspected their true values were not that low, regression to the mean meant above those season values. I feared this kind of shooting night for them.

4. If you get a rep for getting into people's grills on defense, the other teams may feel they must play defense that well to win against you. That certainly seemed the case with UAR. So UF better expect that kind of defensive effort against them all the time.

5. If officials want to call a cheap screen foul for Young for his second first half foul, they can probably do it every game.

6. As others have said, Yeguete is the biggest worry about this game. Young bounced back from knee tendonitis last year but it took an off season. I fear Yeguete will not be himself again this season.

7. It is a shame win or lose that Prather did produce during the extra minutes due to Yeguete essentially not playing. As other said, it may come from him as he plays minutes in more games up coming.

I would agree with most of that except the defense part. I also agree that people my try to get in our face the rest of the season, I just do not think that automatically means success on their part. IMO, if we simply didn't commit the un-forced turnovers, and those become shots.. this is a different game. Even with Arky being hot in the beginning.

That said, isn't it weird how the night we play the worst complete game we have played all year coincides with Arkansas playing just about their best game, nearly all the bounces going Arkansas' way, and the Refs calling too much ticky-tack crap on us.... (not that it was all the refs fault).

**DuPontGator** · 02-06-2013, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gtr2x

When SW takes 15 shots and is the leading shot taker, it's not a good thing imo.

It sure seemed like there were a lot more than 16 turnovers. Team looked a step slow and lackadaisical all night. Of course that could be said of me also, since I forgot to turn the game on until we were down 20.

So you missed the first 5 mins?

gatorich · 02-06-2013, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by WESGATORS

Arkansas is a terrible 3-point shooting team, and they hit 8 of 18 tonight. They usually get out-rebounded, so them out-rebounding us tonight was another big problem.

Of course Yeguete playing only 1 minute didn't help.

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

They started the game 7-9 from he 3 point line, hit line drive 3's, and finished 1-9 the rest of the way. I think their fast start kind of put us in a panic mode early and we rushed shots instead of just letting them come. Hate to get the loss but I think it will make us better in the long run.

GatorMcCluskey · 02-06-2013, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by born2beagator

Meh. Would rather have not had to take the loss. and they sure look like they were moping in the first half. 2nd half was much better, but they had dug themselves too deep by then

agreed - effort and focus were poor in the first half. Combine that with the Hogs being red-hot from outside, and it put us too far behind the eight-ball to get back in it on the road.