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02-04-2013, 10:49 PM
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Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
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Originally Posted by rserina
What kind of designed plays for the paint do you have in mind? We Young and Murphy a ton of looks on the blocks. Wilbekin and Beal both run the pick and roll well and that results in some good shots for Young and Yeguete. Boynton has that jump stop, Wilbekin has his floater, and Rosario has a nice runner. We don't run a ton of isos for individual players and we don't do much out of the high post, as we did in the past with Wright and Noah, but I don't see that phase of our game as weak at all. Turnovers bother me far more.
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Maybe you're right. When I think of our designed offense in the paint, I think of a PY hook shot that's not always reliable, and that's about it. Murphy and Yeguette score inside on putbacks mostly, which is great against physically inferior teams.
Not knocking our guys, trust me. And maybe I just haven't been paying enough attention to the detail of the game as it flows. Just seems like we're gonna need more than a Rosario floater or PY to hit all his hook shots as we get deeper in the tourney.
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02-04-2013, 10:59 PM
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#42
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Heisman Finalist
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posts: 4,696
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Originally Posted by rserina
Bennett plays mostly four and some five at UNLV. I don't see how he could have played the three for us. He has no handle, he can't run a pick and roll, and he doesn't pass the ball. Good spot up shooter, great around the rim, outstanding post player, all of which would have made him an ideal four in this system.
But I like the guy we have right now.
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My bad, thought we were looking at him mostly at the three. No matter!
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Originally Posted by misha
As they say, no point in letting the facts get in the way of tupacbiff's opinion.
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02-04-2013, 11:40 PM
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#43
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Gator Country Gold
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 23,289
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Originally Posted by fubar1
Maybe you're right. When I think of our designed offense in the paint, I think of a PY hook shot that's not always reliable, and that's about it. Murphy and Yeguette score inside on putbacks mostly, which is great against physically inferior teams.
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True on Yeguete, though we have featured him far more prominently in the pick and roll game this year, but Murphy has been scoring in a variety of ways. In addition to the pick and pops, he has been scoring on pick and rolls, post ups on the low blocks, and even his little dribble drive game from the wing where he posts his man up off the bounce.
The reason I asked the question in my response was that sometimes we conflate specific play calls and our basic ball action, which consists largely of ball screens. Donovan is not a huge fan of calling specific plays, especially in late game situations, because his offense is so effective and he teaches it so well that he would mostly rather roll the dice with something the kids know well and can execute based upon the defense than go with something pretermined. That being said, he has integrated a ton of new looks this year, like the little pindown screen for Wilbekin last week or some of the high staggered screens we have been running.
In any event, we aren't going to call a bunch of half court plays dedicated to getting the ball into Young or Murphy, but those guys are always options in our basic sets. If the defense does certain things (as Ole Miss did with their zone), then it takes that option away because Donovan doesn't want them to force the ball into a guy who doesn't have a shot when you can take advantage of the defense elsewhere.
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02-05-2013, 01:29 AM
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#44
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Heisman Winner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,817
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Originally Posted by GatorsGators
The Big 12 and the Pac-12 aren't exactly basketball powerhouses. The Big 12 has Kansas and nothing else, while the Pac-12 has been awful for a while now (although it's mediocre this season). The SEC is bad this season, but it's usually a decent basketball conference. It was the #3 conference in the RPI last year.
The fact that Middle Tennessee is our second best RPI win isn't exactly a problem. They do have an RPI of 26.
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Plenty of legitimate reasons for this:
Mississippi State lost everyone.
Vandy lost everyone.
South Carolina is rebuilding, with a new coach.
Kentucky lost everyone, well almost.
Missouri has had some injury problems as well as UT. Bowers and Maymon would make both of those teams much more competitive and in Mizzou's case, Top 20.
Factor that and then consider all of the upperclassmen that we have and it makes everyone look even worse.
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02-05-2013, 04:23 PM
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#45
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Heisman Finalist
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,210
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Originally Posted by traubgator
not worried about it. anyone who has watched this team play knows that we play defense like no other team in the country. add in our ability to shoot the ball, we will be a 1-3 seed in the dance.
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I think we're awesome on D but I do worry that we might be getting the FSU in football effect- I mean who exactly tests us- UK is the only team with similar athletes and they can't play this year (finally the stupid all freshman crap is catching up to Cal).
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02-05-2013, 04:27 PM
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#46
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Heisman Finalist
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,210
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Originally Posted by steve6137
All BS until tourney time.
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This is why ultimately even though I love football more, College Basketball is a better sport- none of this hypothetical BS- no one Notre Dame's it to the Final Four, you earn it.
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