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DrewLaing · 02-03-2013, 10:00 PM

I don't think it helps very much...Tebow doesn't have as strong of an arm as Kaepernick. That's what helps set CK apart, I think

dakcman · 02-03-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DrewLaing

I don't think it helps very much...Tebow doesn't have as strong of an arm as Kaepernick. That's what helps set CK apart, I think

Kaepernick has a stronger arm, is more accurate, has a quicker release, can read a defense, and is faster than Tim.

That's about it, though.

ib4ut1 · 02-03-2013, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gandergator

Tim expresses his moral and spritual values, This sports world can't stand that.

I disagree. If Tim could produce in the NFL, they wouldn't care if he were a high priest of Satan.

I love Tebow. I am a Christian and I admire him greatly. But to believe that there is this giant conspiracy against Tebow involving the whole NFL is not too likely.

He was the greatest college quarterback in college in mho. But there is a huge difference between college and the NFL. I played college football (D2), and talking to a couple of guys I know that are playing/have played in the pros, there is no comparison. The speed is vastly greater in the NFL. It is similar to playing in a small high school (me) and trying to adjust even to D2 speed. It was very diffcult and honestly, I didn't do too well.

Tebow will do well in life, I have no doubt. Great young man!

geauxgator1 · 02-03-2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DrewLaing

I don't think it helps very much...Tebow doesn't have as strong of an arm as Kaepernick. That's what helps set CK apart, I think

Tebow has a very strong arm. that's never been his problem.

UFreak · 02-03-2013, 11:00 PM

It does help Tebow's chances. The read option almost won the Super Bowl. Teams will be using it more and more and if Tim doesn't get to start for a team, he will at least be a good back up option for teams. He is a system guy who can allow for continuity in an offense if the starter goes down.

geauxgator1 · 02-03-2013, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UFreak

It does help Tebow's chances. The read option almost won the Super Bowl. Teams will be using it more and more and if Tim doesn't get to start for a team, he will at least be a good back up option for teams. He is a system guy who can allow for continuity in an offense if the starter goes down.

That's the point exactly.

GATORDONE · 02-03-2013, 11:11 PM

No cause one can throw the other cant in the nfl . It's unfortunate

whitelakegator · 02-03-2013, 11:12 PM

Read option? San Fran runs the Pistol. They may run the read out of the pistol but they are running the pistol. And no offense to Tim but CK throws way better than Tim.

And those that try to rationalize Tebow's completion percentage by bringing up ancient QBs. Do you think the game is anywhere close nowadays especially in the passing area? This was CK's tenth start and he looked pretty darn good vs a pretty great defense.

**Gatuar** · 02-03-2013, 11:20 PM

Only thing Tim does better than Kap is run with power

Tims intermediate and short passing skills never really progressed

Think he can win some games in a system like San Fran's but he simply can't make the tight window throws on most of the route tree

UFreak · 02-03-2013, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by whitelakegator

Read option? San Fran runs the Pistol. They may run the read out of the pistol but they are running the pistol. And no offense to Tim but CK throws way better than Tim.

And those that try to rationalize Tebow's completion percentage by bringing up ancient QBs. Do you think the game is anywhere close nowadays especially in the passing area? This was CK's tenth start and he looked pretty darn good vs a pretty great defense.

Yes, they run A LOT of read option out of the pistol formation. So much so, that it's read option as much as anything else. I mean, one of the advantages of the pistol is to specifically allow the QB to run the read option effectively because of where he receives the snap from the shotgun.

Not saying Tim will land a starting job next year. But there is enough of what Tim can do in the league now that it may net him a backup role somewhere.

geauxgator1 · 02-03-2013, 11:35 PM

RGIII and Kaepernick's successes with the read option can only help, not hurt TT's chances. All teams are using it to some degree at this time, it seems.

ufgator4ever · 02-03-2013, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gandergator

Tim expresses his moral and spritual values, This sports world can't stand that.

Unless you are involved in murders, like Ray Lewis.

1984Gator · 02-04-2013, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bazza

All this talk about the option-read system - why isn't Tim in the discussion?

Colin arguably has the edge in passing skill - but other than that I would think the same system could be used with Tim as QB.

With the 49ers in the Super Bowl I would think this is a valid POV.

Thanks for any input.

Edit: Of course he would have to have a good head coach and staff that supported him and the system, like the 49ers do.

Tim's next gig is most likely going to be in Canada!

VanNoord · 02-04-2013, 12:16 AM

Tim would do best with a supporting cast built around his unusual skill set. So you'd need another like him, or the team would suffer if he were injured. Hey, maybe the 49ers. ...

CK is a terrific quarterback, check back with him in two years. He had that deer in headlights thing on the sidelines tonight. Give Tim the edge in that dept.

TheSchmidt · 02-04-2013, 12:56 AM

The 49ers almost won the SB because CK has elite arm talent, not from the read option. The read option can be used in spots, but San Fran was here because CK can absolutely sling it with unreal velocity and accuracy.

Spurffelbow833 · 02-04-2013, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ib4ut1

I disagree. If Tim could produce in the NFL, they wouldn't care if he were a high priest of Satan.

I wasn't aware that it was established that he can't produce in the NFL.

Jonas · 02-04-2013, 02:55 AM

I don't even think Kapernick really runs the read option. I'm pretty sure I read that they'll do a "zone-read" play, but it is predetermined that he will hand off the ball. Only a couple of times, does he actually read the DE and holds on to it if the DE crashes. They want to limit the hits he takes, and rightfully so.

He also has a much better arm than Tebow. Not sure Tebow could have made some of the throws that Kapernick made tonight.

gatorbogey · 02-04-2013, 07:52 AM

copy cat league. w/ RGIII and kaepernick's success, you'd think nfl teams would take a serious look at tebow

**gatordowneast** · 02-04-2013, 08:03 AM

Tim needs to go to Canada as several other QBs have done. Prove himself, win a championship or two, come back to NFL. Warren Moon and Doug Flutie come to mind. Both had as many doubters as Timmy.

gatorbogey · 02-04-2013, 08:04 AM

one thing that tebow does bring to the read/zone option is that he can run inside. RGIII and Kaep - their runs are designed to go outside predominately. kaep had one run to the inside and was rightfully stoned in his tracks, at least tebow could take on a tackler and deliver a blow back. having that added dimension could help in regards to how the DC's design their counter schemes