So Major Applewhite hooked up with a student

[Go2gtr]

Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

Is that how you fight an argument by just making things up? You can pretend to sit on some pedestal if it makes you feel better but I doubt you are any better then anybody here. You're naive because you're CLUELESS to what a coaches job is. If he wasn't married this isn't even an issue. The fact that he is married is what makes it wrong. You can sit there and try and throw your pathetic attempts at humor and question my morals all you want. I could care less what you hope I am or what I'm not. Please point out where my argument is everybody else is doing it. You can't because I never said that.

I think this conversation is over.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by Go2gtr

I think this conversation is over.

Figured as much

[gulfgator]

Originally Posted by GatorNorth

Sounds like a bit of a double standard in Bevotown.

10 years ago as well? On the surface, it does look like she got railroaded somewhat.
Now, with their official statement as to the firing, the admin for UT is going to have a few issues NOT firing a coach who had an intimate relationship with a student.

[gatordavisl]

Originally Posted by LimeyGator

Hmm...Sheesh. I'm no moral zealot but this bunch of replies is outright embarrassing to me.

"Only" marital infidelity can wreck people's lives. If your viewpoint is that it's nothing to do with the university, I'd contend it is. Not only is he a highly paid professional with standards of conduct that are expected by his employers, doesn't he owe it to his wife to be better than this? "Just" an affair seems to be scraping the barrel of decency to me but perhaps I hold myself to a higher level of accountability.

This 'indiscretion' took place in Fiesta Bowl Week, Jauary 2009. For the record, that is (according to various online sources) the same MONTH his wife gave birth to their daughter Lila. Giving him a pass is disgusting. I don't care how fantastic the guy is off the record - having a fling whilst your wife is 9 months pregnant is about as morally deplorable as I can stomach...

It's an interesting debate, but I do not see the university dictating the morality of extra-marital affairs. Of course, there could be more connected circumstances, in which the affair directly impacts the quality of the program (i.e. if she were an employee also). Otherwise, infidelity is a matter for the family and potentially, the courts, to handle.
BTW - The University of Florida discourages, but does not have a policy against professors having relationships with students. The institution for which I currently work is the same.

[1984Gator]

Originally Posted by GCNumber7

These coaches are public figures and represent the university. The standard is a little different than any Joe Blow.

Poor choice of last names!

[gatordavisl]

Originally Posted by Spurffelbow833

As long as there isn't a teacher-student relationship and both parties are consenting adults, it's nobody's business.

See my post above. I'm not saying I agree with the policy (or lack thereof), but public universities often have no rule against it.

[gatordee]

Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

Besides the fact he was married I don't personally see the big deal. If she's of age and consenting there should be no issue. He's a coach, not a teacher.

This.

[Go2gtr]

Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

Figured as much

Don't argue with idiots, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[qwghlmgator]

Originally Posted by Go2gtr

That's why moral turpitude provisions exist in contracts with certain employees. The organization has a legitimate concern with this issue. Like it or not.

If it was in his contract he's got no one to blame but himself. If it wasn't in his contract it's none of Bevo's business. The discipline was probably meted out under a "conduct detrimental to the University" clause. Philosophically, morality, on its face can neither be legislated nor explicitly enforced in contracts because it completely subjective. So what you end up with is a world where we work under the "don't embarrass me or I'll fire you" world. Privacy is a thing of the past, unfortunately, and your private life can get you fired (like the pot smoking math hottie). This is something us parents of college-age children are trying to drill into their heads.

Also:"Cheating" in a marriage is a misuse of the word. The word typically (and exclusively in sports) used to denote activities providing a competitor an unfair advantage. It is intellectually disingenuous to equate the two. Cheating in a marriage is nothing like cheating in football.

And as a point of clarification President Clinton got in hot water for lying, not cheating on his wife. If you're trying to use a president's philandering as a moral compass for the nation, that list has a lot more than one name on it.

[Chompsuey]

This is off topic a bit but apparently he is married to Ricky Williams ex girlfriend. Just thought I would share that lil nugget.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by Go2gtr

Don't argue with idiots, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Or you realized you were losing but I'll let you save face

[Go2gtr]

Originally Posted by qwghlmgator

If it was in his contract he's got no one to blame but himself. If it wasn't in his contract it's none of Bevo's business. The discipline was probably meted out under a "conduct detrimental to the University" clause. Philosophically, morality, on its face can neither be legislated nor explicitly enforced in contracts because it completely subjective. So what you end up with is a world where we work under the "don't embarrass me or I'll fire you" world. Privacy is a thing of the past, unfortunately, and your private life can get you fired (like the pot smoking math hottie). This is something us parents of college-age children are trying to drill into their heads.

Also:"Cheating" in a marriage is a misuse of the word. The word typically (and exclusively in sports) used to denote activities providing a competitor an unfair advantage. It is intellectually disingenuous to equate the two. Cheating in a marriage is nothing like cheating in football.

And as a point of clarification President Clinton got in hot water for lying, not cheating on his wife. If you're trying to use a president's philandering as a moral compass for the nation, that list has a lot more than one name on it.

Don't need a lecture. I am done with this issue. There are no absolutes. People see things the way they want to.

[Go2gtr]

Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

Or you realized you were losing but I'll let you save face

Oh yeah? You're the loser you big loser. Is that childish enough for you? BTW, last word. HA!

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by Go2gtr

Oh yeah? You're the loser you big loser. Is that childish enough for you? BTW, last word. HA!

Simmer down POPS, I put a smiley face. I figured that'd be easy enough for you to comprehend. Prozac brother, Prozac!

[Go2gtr]

Loser!

[Tebowism0823]

lol....I think your feelings got hurt. It's ok man, people won't always agree with you. Take a nap, it'll get better.

[SoonerDean]

Link to OU board that has her photo. Caution - This board allows profane language, so the photo will contain NSFW words.



http://www.landthieves.com/board/sho...=1#post1066290

[247brother]

Originally Posted by Matthanuf06

He's an adult, she's an adult. Who cares besides his wife? Perception wise if she's 18, it feels more like he took advantage of her (which is disagree with). But the sounds of it make it seem like she was older, so it's just an extra marital affair. Now if he got her a job....and owned a motorcycle...

Bingo.....they have to protect the product that is Texas...this is all pr

[gtr2x]

Major must have the same taste in women as Schwarzenegger. He deserves to be fired on that alone.

[Go2gtr]

Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

lol....I think your feelings got hurt. It's ok man, people won't always agree with you. Take a nap, it'll get better.

I was a bit over your head in this exchange. Don't worry, you'll mature in time.