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Old 02-01-2013, 06:15 AM   #1
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Default The Hagel hearings show just how much Israel owns America

First, anyone that has watched or read about these hearings can see that the GOP wants an outright war against Iran. They want another Iraq and likely because AIPAC has been trying to push through bills that would prevent our politicians from having negotiations with Iran. How despicable is that? Why would they do that? Because they want Americans to fight Israel's war.

Second, I love how questioning his "support" for Israel is like questioning his love for America. That is beyond despicable and shows just how low the GOP has sunk these days as they continue to kiss AIPAC's butt so they can get their campaigns funded. Afterall, AIPAC is the second most powerful lobby in DC outside of the NRA and has a budget of over $70 million. Many AIPAC members have also been arrested for espionage and passing over documents to the Israelis. Great group that bunch is, eh?

I love how McCain questioned his opposition to the surge in the Iraq war. How delusional are the GOP these days? They still think this war was a success when the Iraq war from start to finish was a failure of epic proportions, has led to anarchy in the country, and no WMDs were found. Not too mention it left thousands of our troops dead. And for what? What did we gain? Just to get Saddam Hussein out of there?

Third, his infamous "Jewish Lobby" quote. Israel considers themselves a Jewish State. AIPAC is their lobby in the USA. Calling them a Jewish Lobby is what they are, but naturally, the bozos are trying to use the ole "anti-semitic" card on that one.

The facts on Israel:

- Killed American troops back in 1967 aboard the USS Liberty with the intention to blame it on Egypt and bring us into the conflict on Israel's side.
- The Lavon Affair - Israel intended to bomb our Embassy along with the UK's and blame it on The Muslim Brotherhood.
- They are relentlessly persecuting the Palestinians and continue to build thousands of illegal settlements (condemned by the UN) even after Palestine gained "non-member state" recognition by the UN just recently.
- They refuse to sign the NPT that Iran HAS signed.
- They refuse to declare that they have nuclear weapons when the world knows they do.
- They have never allowed UN inspections of their nuclear facilities.
- They have no desire to see nuclear weapons disappear from the region but to rather be one of the few countries in the region to have them.
- Numerous spy attempts in the USA, one of which being caught filming the 9/11 attack
- I can go on and on


Israel owns the USA. When Israel says jump, America says how high?



How can anyone here support them and call themselves an American? These GOP politicians are hammering a Vietnam war veteran, a man who fought in one of the worst (if not the worst) wars in American history and yet they're attacking him because he doesn't want to kiss Israel's butt? What country is this?


The GOP won't ever get votes from real conservatives like myself until they move toward the Libertarian side of the aisle, stop the nonstop war talk, and stop putting Israel's interests above our own.


http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ics-87040.html

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ion-87001.html

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Old 02-01-2013, 06:30 AM   #2
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More like FACT. You keep thinking those big bad Muslims in the Middle East are the problem without looking at how our government (via AIPAC) is labeling entire countries as "terrorist states" while refusing to even have a somewhat unbiased look at the destruction Israel is wreaking across the region.
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:17 AM   #4
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It's beyond ownership. It's complete and total domination.

Secretary of State John Foster Dulles:

"I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews..... terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen .... I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country"

Admiral Thomas Moorer, Joint Chiefs of Staff:

"I've never seen a president --I don't care who he is-- stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles your mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what's going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn't writing anything down. If the American people understood what grip those people have on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens don't have any idea what goes on."

Former Congressman Paul Findley:

"The Israeli Prime Minister has a lot more influence over the foreign policy of the United States in the Middle East than he has in his own country."

Senator J. William Fullbright:

"The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate ... somewhere around 80 percent of the senate of the United States is completely in support of Israel -- of anything Israel wants."

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Barack gets a whole lot of flack when he does anything that pushes up against Israel's power

The best part is the tizzy it gets Conservatives in...
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I am Team Mall, not Team Zombies. Israel is the mall in the Middle East.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:36 AM   #7
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I would never be confirmed as defense secretary. If I was sitting up there and Lindsey Graham had the balls to ask me to "name one person who is intimidated by the Israeli lobby", my answer?

"Senator, I could name about 535. You oughta know, you're one of them. Shall I start with the ones sitting right in front of me?"
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Israel is an outpost of civilization with homicidal religious savages on three sides of them.
Savages that hate the modern world and want to destroy it. This makes Israel our ally, people fighting our war.

Leftists and others here don't just hate the Israelis. They hate traditional
America and Western values, just as the Islamics do. They are allies.

And Americans need to understand that.
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The left soured on Israel because its become less secular & socialist and more right-wing and fanatically religious.
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Israel is an outpost of civilization with homicidal religious savages on three sides of them.
Savages that hate the modern world and want to destroy it. This makes Israel our ally, people fighting our war.

Leftists and others here don't just hate the Israelis. They hate traditional
America and Western values, just as the Islamics do. They are allies.

And Americans need to understand that.
Tell me you're not serious.
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:30 AM   #11
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I think Burke's first paragraph is pretty much true, with the qualification that it isn't that every man, woman, and child in the Arab Muslim world is a 12th century throwback, just that that is the trend with the most influence. It doesn't take all, most, or even a plurality necessarily to lock a society in that sort of cycle.
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Tell me you're not serious.
If he's not serious, he's been incredibly consistent in his unseriousness, having posted a version of that many, many times.
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The left soured on Israel because its become less secular & socialist and more right-wing and fanatically religious.
Actually, I don't know if the left soured on Israel as much as the right, which used to criticize Democrats' close ties to Israel, became completely zealous in its support for the country. Some of it seems based on the idea that anyone who opposes Muslims deserves complete support. But some of it also seems religious - that it's all part of Christ's return to Earth.
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First, anyone that has watched or read about these hearings can see that the GOP wants an outright war against Iran. They want another Iraq and likely because AIPAC has been trying to push through bills that would prevent our politicians from having negotiations with Iran. How despicable is that? Why would they do that? Because they want Americans to fight Israel's war.

Second, I love how questioning his "support" for Israel is like questioning his love for America. That is beyond despicable and shows just how low the GOP has sunk these days as they continue to kiss AIPAC's butt so they can get their campaigns funded. Afterall, AIPAC is the second most powerful lobby in DC outside of the NRA and has a budget of over $70 million. Many AIPAC members have also been arrested for espionage and passing over documents to the Israelis. Great group that bunch is, eh?

I love how McCain questioned his opposition to the surge in the Iraq war. How delusional are the GOP these days? They still think this war was a success when the Iraq war from start to finish was a failure of epic proportions, has led to anarchy in the country, and no WMDs were found. Not too mention it left thousands of our troops dead. And for what? What did we gain? Just to get Saddam Hussein out of there?

Third, his infamous "Jewish Lobby" quote. Israel considers themselves a Jewish State. AIPAC is their lobby in the USA. Calling them a Jewish Lobby is what they are, but naturally, the bozos are trying to use the ole "anti-semitic" card on that one.

The facts on Israel:

- Killed American troops back in 1967 aboard the USS Liberty with the intention to blame it on Egypt and bring us into the conflict on Israel's side.
- The Lavon Affair - Israel intended to bomb our Embassy along with the UK's and blame it on The Muslim Brotherhood.
- They are relentlessly persecuting the Palestinians and continue to build thousands of illegal settlements (condemned by the UN) even after Palestine gained "non-member state" recognition by the UN just recently.
- They refuse to sign the NPT that Iran HAS signed.
- They refuse to declare that they have nuclear weapons when the world knows they do.
- They have never allowed UN inspections of their nuclear facilities.
- They have no desire to see nuclear weapons disappear from the region but to rather be one of the few countries in the region to have them.
- Numerous spy attempts in the USA, one of which being caught filming the 9/11 attack
- I can go on and on


Israel owns the USA. When Israel says jump, America says how high?



How can anyone here support them and call themselves an American? These GOP politicians are hammering a Vietnam war veteran, a man who fought in one of the worst (if not the worst) wars in American history and yet they're attacking him because he doesn't want to kiss Israel's butt? What country is this?


The GOP won't ever get votes from real conservatives like myself until they move toward the Libertarian side of the aisle, stop the nonstop war talk, and stop putting Israel's interests above our own.


http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ics-87040.html

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ion-87001.html



How can anyone defend the socialist, Isreali-hating Obama administration and call themselves an American is more the question.
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:40 AM   #15
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Actually, I don't know if the left soured on Israel as much as the right, which used to criticize Democrats' close ties to Israel, became completely zealous in its support for the country. Some of it seems based on the idea that anyone who opposes Muslims deserves complete support. But some of it also seems religious - that it's all part of Christ's return to Earth.
I meant the "left" in a more general, global sense. US Democrats are a notable exception, as their support is as solid as ever, and only seems lacking given the American right's recent drum beating on Israel, and their natural affinity with Bbi.
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I would never be confirmed as defense secretary. If I was sitting up there and Lindsey Graham had the balls to ask me to "name one person who is intimidated by the Israeli lobby", my answer?

"Senator, I could name about 535. You oughta know, you're one of them. Shall I start with the ones sitting right in front of me?"


Yeah, my big problem with Hagel is the fact that he didn't fight back and stand his ground on those comments he made during his hearing. He backtracked a bit as if he was wrong for saying it when all he did was say what millions of Americans really believe. AIPAC uses the weapon of labeling a politician an anti-semite and then pours millions and millions of dollars into the campaign of the opponent that will bow down to Israel. They tried to get Ron Paul out of there for years and years. Glad the voters in Texas had more sense than that.

In today's America, supporting Israel is more important than supporting America and that's why all of Israel's enemies are our enemies and we're stuck in a region where war has been going on for thousands of years. The USA these days might as well be located smack-dab in the Middle East.

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Israel is an outpost of civilization with homicidal religious savages on three sides of them.
Savages that hate the modern world and want to destroy it. This makes Israel our ally, people fighting our war.

Leftists and others here don't just hate the Israelis. They hate traditional
America and Western values, just as the Islamics do. They are allies.

And Americans need to understand that.


My idea of America is a country that leads the world as opposed to being a slave to a foreign entity on the other side of the world. To say that Israel is an "outpost of civilization" is absurd beyond words. Some of the most disgusting racism today is seen in Israel where they're kicking Palestinians out of their homes, destroying their water supply, controlling their economy while keeping it close to collapsing, and attacking them with phosphorus bombs IE: chemical weapons.

They don't want peace. They've never wanted peace. Israel no longer matters on a global scale if peace is ever achieved. They thrive on instability, which is why they carry out the most false-flag attacks in the world today.


If they wanted peace, they wouldn't be pushing for war against Iran.
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How can anyone defend the socialist, Isreali-hating Obama administration and call themselves an American is more the question.


It's easy to defend a stance against a particular country when they suck taxpayer dollars and billions at that from hardworking Americans while also dragging us into their conflicts in the Middle East. Did I also mention that they've attacked Americans abroad as part of their false-flag attacks?




If you believe the USA should be Israel's slave, that's your opinion.
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First, anyone that has watched or read about these hearings can see that the GOP wants an outright war against Iran. They want another Iraq and likely because AIPAC has been trying to push through bills that would prevent our politicians from having negotiations with Iran. How despicable is that? Why would they do that? Because they want Americans to fight Israel's war.

Second, I love how questioning his "support" for Israel is like questioning his love for America. That is beyond despicable and shows just how low the GOP has sunk these days as they continue to kiss AIPAC's butt so they can get their campaigns funded. Afterall, AIPAC is the second most powerful lobby in DC outside of the NRA and has a budget of over $70 million. Many AIPAC members have also been arrested for espionage and passing over documents to the Israelis. Great group that bunch is, eh?

I love how McCain questioned his opposition to the surge in the Iraq war. How delusional are the GOP these days? They still think this war was a success when the Iraq war from start to finish was a failure of epic proportions, has led to anarchy in the country, and no WMDs were found. Not too mention it left thousands of our troops dead. And for what? What did we gain? Just to get Saddam Hussein out of there?

Third, his infamous "Jewish Lobby" quote. Israel considers themselves a Jewish State. AIPAC is their lobby in the USA. Calling them a Jewish Lobby is what they are, but naturally, the bozos are trying to use the ole "anti-semitic" card on that one.

The facts on Israel:

- Killed American troops back in 1967 aboard the USS Liberty with the intention to blame it on Egypt and bring us into the conflict on Israel's side.
- The Lavon Affair - Israel intended to bomb our Embassy along with the UK's and blame it on The Muslim Brotherhood.
- They are relentlessly persecuting the Palestinians and continue to build thousands of illegal settlements (condemned by the UN) even after Palestine gained "non-member state" recognition by the UN just recently.
- They refuse to sign the NPT that Iran HAS signed.
- They refuse to declare that they have nuclear weapons when the world knows they do.
- They have never allowed UN inspections of their nuclear facilities.
- They have no desire to see nuclear weapons disappear from the region but to rather be one of the few countries in the region to have them.
- Numerous spy attempts in the USA, one of which being caught filming the 9/11 attack
- I can go on and on


Israel owns the USA. When Israel says jump, America says how high?



How can anyone here support them and call themselves an American? These GOP politicians are hammering a Vietnam war veteran, a man who fought in one of the worst (if not the worst) wars in American history and yet they're attacking him because he doesn't want to kiss Israel's butt? What country is this?


The GOP won't ever get votes from real conservatives like myself until they move toward the Libertarian side of the aisle, stop the nonstop war talk, and stop putting Israel's interests above our own.


http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ics-87040.html

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ion-87001.html

We get it already, you hate the Jews. Interesting side note is that the Jewish vote went almost 70% to President Obama.
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