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MastaG8r · 03-08-2013, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dangolegators

You actually think this meets the criteria?

Wellllllll actually when I came across that item yesterday and posted it, I sort of forgot that in this thread we'd been focusing on MSNBC'S deceptive use of video clips. So okay, it doesn't qualify as that. We'll file it under the broader category of deceptive or misleading broadcasting, but I'll grant you that it's not on par with the other examples posted here of doctored or misused video clips.

Gator_Tom66 · 03-08-2013, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MastaG8r

You seriously won't acknowledge that Chris Matthews is biased and favors the Liberal viewpoint on nearly every political issue, if not every?

Of course Matthews is a flaming liberal and has been for some time now. A good comment or two about W or Rudy does nothing to diminish his hard left leanings.

fredsanford · 03-08-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gator_Tom66

. Of course Matthews is a flaming liberal and has been for some time now. A good comment or two about W or Rudy does nothing to diminish his hard left leanings.

Feel free to counter with anything a Fox host that is on the air after 4pm has said about Obama or any other prominent Dem.

So what if MSNBC is lib after dark? At least they are not a 24 hour opposition attack machine like Fox is during their day parts.

Gator_Tom66 · 03-08-2013, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fredsanford

Feel free to counter with anything a Fox host that is on the air after 4pm has said about Obama or any other prominent Dem.

So what if MSNBC is lib after dark? At least they are not a 24 hour opposition attack machine like Fox is during their day parts.

Fox leans right
MSNBC leans left

MastaG8r · 03-08-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fredsanford

Feel free to counter with anything a Fox host that is on the air after 4pm has said about Obama or any other prominent Dem.

Ask and ye shall receive.

Bill O'Reilly is a FOX host who comes on the air every weeknight at 8 P.M.

Here are some things he had to say about Barack 0bama after his first interview of him during the 2008 campaign:

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Like him or not, you have to give Barack Obama credit for waging a smart, focused campaign. Destroying the Clinton machine was a major achievement and so was putting together a successful convention in Denver. Obama is now firmly a part of U.S. history, no matter what happens in the presidential election.
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The Barack Obama I witnessed is self-confident, determined and driven. He was acutely aware of his surroundings from the moment he entered the room. He looks you in the eye and touches your shoulder. He understands how to connect one-on-one.
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On the foreign policy front, Obama has convinced me that he is tough but cautious. He rose up quickly because he vehemently opposed the Iraq war. But now I see a man who understands the victory that has taken place in Iraq. I don't believe he wants to screw that up. I could be wrong.

After going mano-a-mano with Obama on television, I am also persuaded that he is a sincere guy-that he wants the best for all Americans. He's an ideologue, but not a blind one. He understands that his story is incredible, and, I have come to believe, he is grateful to the American system for allowing it happen.

It is true that we don't know whether Senator Obama has the ability to solve complex problems, but you can say that about all presidential contenders. Like most politicians, Obama has used guile and good luck to accumulate his power. He can be ruthless, kind, unfair, and generous. In short, he's a real person trying to achieve an unreal position-that of the most powerful person in the world. God help him.

Well? As Mr. O'Reilly would say...what say you, shabadoo?

neisgator · 03-08-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MastaG8r

Ask and ye shall receive.

Bill O'Reilly is a FOX host who comes on the air every weeknight at 8 P.M.

Here are some things he had to say about Barack 0bama after his first interview of him during the 2008 campaign:

Well? As Mr. O'Reilly would say...what say you, shabadoo?

You have a phone that calls outside of planet earth...??

rivergator · 03-25-2013, 08:59 PM

If you're looking for distortions. Anyone want to guess whether March last year was burning hot and this year freezing cold? The Fox graphic:

DaveFla · 03-26-2013, 07:25 AM

Huh?

rivergator · 03-26-2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveFla

Huh?

Fox used two completely different types of maps. The one on the right shows the minimum temperature. You really figure that last March was over 100 degrees over much of the country?
The map on the left showed where temperatures were above average.
Showing two different types of maps makes it look like we just entered the ice age compared to last year so global warming must not be happening, right?

oaklandroadie · 03-26-2013, 10:24 AM

Meanwhile, on MSNBC's Morning Joe yesterday, host Al Sharpton and contributor Mike Barnicle openly stated opposition to Mayor Bloomberg's nanny state policies was due to anti-semitism on the right.

**citygator** · 03-26-2013, 10:35 AM

I work in a retail business that is entirely weather driven. I can tell you with certainty that the last two winters were very warm and dry as was last spring. This spring was much cooler. Three winters ago was one of the coldest and snowiest. What I have learned in over 20+ years of weather reliant business.... It is never an average season and always unpredictable. Anyone who interprets a year/season as a trend is crazy.

rivergator · 03-26-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by oaklandroadie

Meanwhile, on MSNBC's Morning Joe yesterday, host Al Sharpton and contributor Mike Barnicle openly stated opposition to Mayor Bloomberg's nanny state policies was due to anti-semitism on the right.

That's not an opinion I would agree with. But the subject on this thread is more about distortion of fact, not opinions we disagree with.

DaveFla · 03-26-2013, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rivergator

Fox used two completely different types of maps. The one on the right shows the minimum temperature. You really figure that last March was over 100 degrees over much of the country?
The map on the left showed where temperatures were above average.
Showing two different types of maps makes it look like we just entered the ice age compared to last year so global warming must not be happening, right?

Again, Huh?

DaveFla · 03-26-2013, 01:35 PM

I saw no reference to ANY actual temperatures referred to in the FOX News screenshot you originally posted...

Looks like you are, again, trying to make something out of nothing...

rivergator · 03-26-2013, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveFla

I saw no reference to ANY actual temperatures referred to in the FOX News screenshot you originally posted...

Looks like you are, again, trying to make something out of nothing...

The map on the right shows minimum temperatures for the month.

DaveFla · 03-26-2013, 01:41 PM

And?

rivergator · 03-26-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveFla

And?

you really need it explained again? in order to exaggerate the difference between this month and last March, Fox used two maps that reflected entirely different things.

If it ran the same kind of map for last year, it would have been this one. But that wouldn't have look as radically different. So it used one that didn't show minimum temperature, it used that showed other data.

DaveFla · 03-26-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rivergator

you really need it explained again? in order to exaggerate the difference between this month and last March, Fox used two maps that reflected entirely different things.

If it ran the same kind of map for last year, it would have been this one. But that wouldn't have look as radically different. So it used one that didn't show minimum temperature, it used that showed other data.

That's a different chart then the one you originally bitched about...

Perhaps you should just provide me with the link to the MediaMatters story from which you received your marching orders? It seems that you may well have confused the issue...

rivergator · 03-26-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveFla

That's a different chart then the one you originally bitched about...

Perhaps you should just provide me with the link to the MediaMatters story from which you received your marching orders? It seems that you may well have confused the issue...

Yes, Dave. If you use a map for March 25 2012 using the same data as the one from March 25 2013, you will get a different map than the one Fox used.That's kind of the point.

DaveFla · 03-26-2013, 02:02 PM

Sounds like your beef is with the FOX graphics department... Or NOAA.