01-31-2013, 07:54 PM
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Oh, Chris Matthews is a raging liberal, assuming you can ignore all the times he's blasted Democrats and praised Republicans.
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01-31-2013, 08:08 PM
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Matthews, while liberal, appears to have a kind of hacky integrity. In other words he only says what he actually believes to be true, although what he believes to be true is filtered through a liberal prism for which precious little allowance is made.
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01-31-2013, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rivergator
Oh, Chris Matthews is a raging liberal, assuming you can ignore all the times he's blasted Democrats and praised Republicans.
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That's right, continue denying that Chris Matthews is a raging Liberal even though you already claimed you don't actually watch him. If he blasted a Democrat it was probably because he perceived them as doing damage to the brand, and if he praised a Republican it was most likely for some sort of concession they made to the Left. With regard to George Bush, many people who detested him as a political figure found him to be a likable guy on a personal level, so that means nothing if Matthews said something to that effect.
I notice that no other posters are joining you in questioning Chris Matthews' Liberal bias. Don't be shy, folks. Speak up if you think river is onto something.
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01-31-2013, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MastaG8r
That's right, continue denying that Chris Matthews is a raging Liberal even though you already claimed you don't actually watch him. If he blasted a Democrat it was probably because he perceived them as doing damage to the brand, and if he praised a Republican it was most likely for some sort of concession they made to the Left. With regard to George Bush, many people who detested him as a political figure found him to be a likable guy on a personal level, so that means nothing if Matthews said something to that effect.
I notice that no other posters are joining you in questioning Chris Matthews' Liberal bias. Don't be shy, folks. Speak up if you think river is onto something.
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No, I don't watch him. Honestly find him fairly unwatchable. But I've read a good bit about what he says. I would think the amount of time he's spent praising Republicans and bashing Democrats would remove him from the 'raging liberal' category. But I could be wrong about categorization.
So I'll ask again, can you point to someone who might be considered a raging conservative who has gushed over Obama the way Matthews did over Bush? Who made it clear that his choice for president was a Democrat?
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01-31-2013, 09:00 PM
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You want partisanship? Watch MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell. A truly disgusting person.
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01-31-2013, 09:11 PM
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Particularly despicable of MSNBC considering the sensitivity of this matter. but don't if it's worse than the hatchet editing by NBC on George Zimmerman 911 recording.
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01-31-2013, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rivergator
No, I don't watch him. Honestly find him fairly unwatchable. But I've read a good bit about what he says. I would think the amount of time he's spent praising Republicans and bashing Democrats would remove him from the 'raging liberal' category. But I could be wrong about categorization.
So I'll ask again, can you point to someone who might be considered a raging conservative who has gushed over Obama the way Matthews did over Bush? Who made it clear that his choice for president was a Democrat?
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No "could be" about it. As for your question, I'll save keystrokes and say Chris Christie rather than argue the irrelevance of the question.
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01-31-2013, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MastaG8r
No "could be" about it. As for your question, I'll save keystrokes and say Chris Christie rather than argue the irrelevance of the question.
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you really think Christie is considered an extreme conservative? Aren't you the one who claimed he was going to run for president as a Democrat?
Let's see, Christie saying something nice about Obama means he's a Democrat, so Matthews saying something nice about Bush must mean .....
kinda screwed that one, didn't you?
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02-01-2013, 06:06 AM
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It is really funny how so many on this board have such strong opinions of Fox,Msnbc,Limbaugh, Hannity, etc.... But hardly no one on here will admit that they watch them. I could care less what you watch but when opinions are voice as fact from "what you read" rather than forming your own opinion from experience it makes you no better than any other partisan. I watch and or listen to most all of them and it is easy to say: Fox leans conservative but has liberal view points from contributors, Msnbc is very left and hardly no view point on any shows that stray, Hannity is partisan, Limbaugh conservative and uses absurdity to make points. All those view points from my experience rather than some talking points I read on a partisan web site.
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02-01-2013, 08:43 AM
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lol at the Fox crowd
MSNBC is using Fox's playbook
partisan politics makes for good ratings, ratings = advertising $$$
i personally don't watch these talking heads, and those who do, need others to tell them what to think or to agree with their own opinions
its no coincidence that Fox wins that battle despite the humorous claim that so-called conservatives are "free-thinkers"
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02-01-2013, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rivergator
you really think Christie is considered an extreme conservative? Aren't you the one who claimed he was going to run for president as a Democrat?
Let's see, Christie saying something nice about Obama means he's a Democrat, so Matthews saying something nice about Bush must mean .....
kinda screwed that one, didn't you?
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I was the one who thinks Christy will run as a dem shab
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02-01-2013, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by g8orbill
I was the one who thinks Christy will run as a dem shab
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Shab?
Anyway, MastaG8r started a thread on Too Hot claiming that Christie would run as a Democrat and added:
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02-01-2013, 08:51 AM
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Sorry river- I do not know how to edit from mh iphone
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02-01-2013, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by rivergator
you really think Christie is considered an extreme conservative? Aren't you the one who claimed he was going to run for president as a Democrat?
Let's see, Christie saying something nice about Obama means he's a Democrat, so Matthews saying something nice about Bush must mean .....
kinda screwed that one, didn't you?
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Kinda screwed what one? You mean the nonsensical, petulant thrashing around on the floor you've been doing in response to this thread undermining your quixotic little campaign against FOX News? That one? That...tantrum?
The subject of the thread is the latest evidence that MSNBC's Liberal bias is more egregiously blatant than the Conservative bias on FOX that you and other Libs on the forum regularly harp on. Your response? To question whether Chris Matthews is really a Conservative or not, as if that has anything to do with the price of tea in China.
First of all it's a totally ridiculous question, made all the more ridiculous by your admission (or more likely, false claim) that you don't watch Chris Matthews. EVERYBODY knows the guy is as Liberal as they come, but since he's apparently committed the unpardonable offense of occasionally saying something nice about a Republican or critical of a Democrat, as far as you're concerned his Liberal Card is revoked. Absurd.
And to cap it off, you demand names of Conservatives who have made favorable comments about Democrats, as if that somehow supports your denial of Chris Matthews' Liberalism. It doesn't. Just to humor you I name Chris Christie, and you predictably deny that he's a Conservative.
So in rivergator's world, Chris Matthews is not a Liberal and Chris Christie is not a Conservative.
The former may have had a kind word for a Republican or a critique of a Democrat from time to time, but that makes him no less of a flaming, far-Left Liberal. And the latter may be a disloyal Republican for his passive-aggressive undermining of Mitt Romney, but that makes him no less of a Conservative. And ultimately, none of those things have anything to do with the fact that is the topic of this thread: MSNBC broadcasts false Liberal propaganda and their bias is worse than FOX's.
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02-01-2013, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 108
lol at the Fox crowd
MSNBC is using Fox's playbook
partisan politics makes for good ratings, ratings = advertising $$$
i personally don't watch these talking heads, and those who do, need others to tell them what to think or to agree with their own opinions
its no coincidence that Fox wins that battle despite the humorous claim that so-called conservatives are "free-thinkers" 
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Actually Fox is attempting to counteract CNN, which is partisan via an incompetent imitation of network news, by deliberately presenting conservative editorial content along with a lesser degree of liberal editorial content. MSNBC interprets that approach as open season for bias which they indulge in from the left, though some conservative thought is occassionally allowed in the building. Given their connection to NBC news proper many times their content is superior to Fox, but on balance their bias is significantly worse.
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02-01-2013, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 108
lol at the Fox crowd
MSNBC is using Fox's playbook
partisan politics makes for good ratings, ratings = advertising $$$
i personally don't watch these talking heads, and those who do, need others to tell them what to think or to agree with their own opinions
its no coincidence that Fox wins that battle despite the humorous claim that so-called conservatives are "free-thinkers" 
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108, lets take partisanship out if the equation.
Don't you have a problem with a member of the 4th Estate manipulating the fact to advance their agenda?
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02-01-2013, 09:51 AM
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In the course of reading about this latest episode of MSNBC's misleading editing practices, I came across yet another instance of it that I missed the first time around back in June:
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MSNBC's Selectively Edited Romney Video, Andrea Mitchell's Non-Apology Illustrate Network's Dishonesty
Barack Obama’s adoring cheerleaders at NBC are back in the editing room distorting the truth, and, not surprisingly, Andrea Mitchell has the gall to make no apologies for it. First it was their vile attempt to make George Zimmerman sound like a racist to gin up racial conflict, and now they’ve set their sights on Mitt Romney who they’re desperately trying to paint as an out-of-touch, silver spoon Republican wowed by Wawa sandwiches.
This is a brazen attempt by NBC’s Andrea Mitchell to create a modern “supermarket scanner” moment for Mitt Romney where one clearly does not exist. This “gaffe” is a complete fabrication deliberately perpetrated by MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell Reports. Her attempt to right this wrong by playing a few more seconds of video today is a slap in the face. Romney was making a valid point about the efficiency of private sector innovation. He was not amazed that he could order a sandwich with a touchscreen. His message is clear as day to anyone who watches the full video of his stump speech, and should sicken anyone who compares it to Mitchell’s sensational hatchet job.
This isn’t journalism. This is make believe. Barack Obama has been damaged by his careless comment that "the private sector is doing fine" – exposing how out of touch he is with reality – and his friends in the liberal media are busy dicing up video clips to pin the "out of touch" label on his Republican rival. Several media outlets picked up on Mitchell’s "report" – including CNN and Politico – and now have to eat crow as her deception has come to light. This is another outrageous example of how NBC will do anything to help Obama in 2012, no matter how unethical, irresponsible, and dishonest it is.
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Here's the video:
And here is Andrea Mitchell's uncontrite non-apology for the misleading editing:
 Good ol' MSNBC.
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02-01-2013, 10:09 AM
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02-01-2013, 10:20 AM
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Please stay on topic:
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02-01-2013, 11:30 AM
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108, lets take partisanship out if the equation.
Don't you have a problem with a member of the 4th Estate manipulating the fact to advance their agenda?
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i have a problem with all of it, and i wish people would just stop watching the propaganda channels
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