01-31-2013, 02:07 AM
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Is Obama turning America into a communist nation?
With the way things are going I don't think "Obama's America:2016" was far off.
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01-31-2013, 08:30 AM
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Yeah, we're super close to communism, other than having private property, privatized production, a market-driven economy and a class system.
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01-31-2013, 08:32 AM
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Heisman Candidate
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Keep an eye on that 22nd amendment repeal legislation. Someone will try to bury it in the soon to be 3000 page amnesty bill.
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01-31-2013, 08:46 AM
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That's a very good question. No, wait. Not that.
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01-31-2013, 09:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wgbgator
Yeah, we're super close to communism, other than having private property, privatized production, a market-driven economy and a class system.
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yeah, except for that. 
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01-31-2013, 09:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by g8trjax
Keep an eye on that 22nd amendment repeal legislation. Someone will try to bury it in the soon to be 3000 page amnesty bill.
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Legislation to repeal the 22nd Amendment has been introduced multiple times since 1991. Even in the extremely unlikely event that repeal legislation passes both Houses of Congress, 3/4 of the states would have to ratify it before the repeal would become effective.
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01-31-2013, 10:04 AM
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Yeah, we need a slightly sarcastic emoticon. That's not to say though, if these jokers could figure a way around it, they wouldn't give it a shot.
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01-31-2013, 10:06 AM
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considering nothing has changed other than passing a conservative born universal health care plan.........NO
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01-31-2013, 10:50 AM
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first SOCIALIST healthcare system then communism. Laugh at me now.
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01-31-2013, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by GatorPrincess8
first SOCIALIST healthcare system then communism. Laugh at me now.
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We don't even have that. You're buying private health insurance and being treated by private practicioners. The only things that are even vaguely "socialist" are Medicaid & Medicare, which have been around for decades.
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01-31-2013, 10:57 AM
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obamacare will MAKE people have to get insurance. tell me I am wrong.
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01-31-2013, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by GatorPrincess8
obamacare will MAKE people have to get insurance. tell me I am wrong.
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Well they don't have to, but they will be fined
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01-31-2013, 11:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorPrincess8
obamacare will MAKE people have to get insurance. tell me I am wrong.
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You are wrong.
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01-31-2013, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by wgbgator
You are wrong.
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But you will be hit in the pocket
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01-31-2013, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by gatorman_07732
But you will be hit in the pocket
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You already were, indirectly. Now there's a more direct tax on irresponsibility.
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01-31-2013, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by wgbgator
You already were, indirectly. Now there's a more direct tax on irresponsibility.
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Sorry but that is a stupid argument because you can't put a number to it.
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01-31-2013, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by gatorman_07732
Sorry but that is a stupid argument because you can't put a number to it.
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I don't even know what you mean by that. Unless you're saying that the social costs of not having insurance are more visible and quantifiable to everyone now. But that's a good thing.
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01-31-2013, 11:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorPrincess8
With the way things are going I don't think "Obama's America:2016" was far off.
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Make it stop!
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01-31-2013, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by wgbgator
I don't even know what you mean by that.
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You said I'm paying indirectly, so how much is it? Am I no longer going to pay indirectly and should expect a tax decrease as a result of Obamacare? I'm trying to see your logic.
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01-31-2013, 11:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gatorman_07732
You said I'm paying indirectly, so how much is it? Am I no longer going to pay indirectly and should expect a tax decrease as a result of Obamacare? I'm trying to see your logic.
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See my revision. That's exactly the point. Now the costs are more visible and quantifiable to people who don't purchase insurance, and they must contribute in the form of a tax.
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