Randy Moss: "I'm the greatest receiver to ever play this game."

[Minister_of_Information]

Jerry Rice is the greatest ever, Moss is the prototype.

[sleeze]

Oh yeah and for the sake of more argument.

Chris Carter had the Best Hands ..all time.

Discuss

[gatordee]

Jerrys awards:
1995
- Pro Bowl MVP
1993
- AP Offensive Player of the Year
1988
- Super Bowl MVP
1987
- AP Offensive Player of the Year
- Bert Bell MVP Trophy (Maxwell Club)
- PFWA MVP
- UPI NFC Offensive Player of the Year
1985
- UPI NFL-NFC Rookie of the Year

[gatordee]

Randy Mosses awards:
Randy Moss Awards

Profile
Famous as :
Football player
Birth Name :
Randall Gene Moss
Birth Date :
February 13, 1977
Birth Place :
Rand, West Virginia, USA
Claim to fame :
Parade All-American (1994)

NFL Anual Awards

1998
Won NFL Anual Award
category Associated Press Offensive Rookie of the Year

Quarter Awards

2002
Won Quarter Award
category Most Disappointing Player


Read more: http://www.aceshowbiz.com/celebrity/...#ixzz2JQ8v7wgg

[Juggernautz]

I think Fitzgerald will surpass them both.

[RayUF07]

Just Google "Jerry Rice Records"


That should tell you all you need to know.

[corpgator]

Guess who holds the single season record for receiving yards?

[GatorJeff]

Originally Posted by mikehev

Grant it, there were times that Moss seemed unstoppable, but there were also times that Marcus Dupree and Boobie Miles seemed unstoppable.

Potential and being the greatest of all time are two different things. I think I understand your point (though I probably can't agree with it), but for Randy to claim that he is the GOAT is crazy IMO.


In Christ forever,
Mike
John 3:16

Mike,

Isn't it "granted" (meaning "admittedly") rather than "grant it"? They both make sense in your usage context, I suppose. Perhaps they are both commonly used.

Back to the discussion.......if it's a lifetime achievement award, it goes to Rice. If it's for sheer talent and physical prowess, it goes to Moss.

[rounds]

Only thing Moss wins is "Most Sullen".

[RayUF07]

Originally Posted by corpgator

Guess who holds the single season record for receiving yards?

And?

Rice has about 100 others.

Rice also didn't play in an era where QB's can't be hit and WR can't be touched. Just about every top QB is throwing for 5,000 these days.

This really isn't an argument. Moss was a great player, Rice is the greatest ever.

PERHAPS Moss could have been, had he applied himself. We'll never know. I'd say if Moss had 1/2 the drive and work ethic of Rice, he would have been the best...

[statesborogator]

T.O. And Moss are a better comparison. Rice trumps them all.

[RayUF07]

Rice is one of if not the best player at any position to play the game. In fact, NFL Network ran a special 2 years ago where a panel picked the 100 best players ever to play.

Rice came in at #1. I don't think I can argue against that.

[GATORAZ]

Originally Posted by Juggernautz

I think Fitzgerald will surpass them both.

Nobody was better than Prime Moss

[Sylez_G_Koolaid]

Originally Posted by Juggernautz

I think Fitzgerald will surpass them both.

Fitz don't got a QB to throw it to him, bro.

[Sylez_G_Koolaid]

Randy Moss was the greatest of all time at running over police women!

[RayUF07]

Originally Posted by GATORAZ

Nobody was better than Prime Moss

You might change that to "Nobody was better than Moss when he wanted to play," and I might agree. But that doesn't make one the best ever. Moss was a 1 trick pony...granted he was very good at that trick. But he also could get taken out of games more easily, either by himself or by teams by simply taking away the go route. Obviously, he could still beat it at times, but he also took plays off often and gave up when things weren't going his way. For as good as Moss was, he could have been MUCH better had he had the work ethic and drive of a guy like Rice. I might put Moss at #2, but no way he passes Rice...it's not even really that close.

Rice reached 1,000 yards receiving 14 times. Moss did it 10 times. Rice scored at least nine touchdowns in a season 12 times. Moss did it nine times. Each had nine seasons with at least 10 touchdowns. Rice had four seasons with at least 1,500 yards. Moss had one. Rice had six seasons with at least 1,400 yards. Moss had four. And yes, Rice played longer, but let's be honest those extra years are far from glory years...and hell, look at Moss now...he could play 10 more years and still NEVER catch Rice. Moss was VERY good, for about 6-8 years, when he wanted to be. That's not greatest ever.

[corpgator]

Originally Posted by RayUF07

And?

Rice has about 100 others.

Rice also didn't play in an era where QB's can't be hit and WR can't be touched. Just about every top QB is throwing for 5,000 these days.

This really isn't an argument. Moss was a great player, Rice is the greatest ever.

PERHAPS Moss could have been, had he applied himself. We'll never know. I'd say if Moss had 1/2 the drive and work ethic of Rice, he would have been the best...

I wasn't talking about Moss; it's Calvin Johnson. He has Moss's height, speed, and leap with more strength. He's also more disciplined with his routes, doesn't give up on plays, always goes all out and isn't a head case.

He's basically the best of both Rice and Moss. If he ever actually gets a great QB, he'll break all the records.

[gatordavisl]

Originally Posted by corpgator

Guess who holds the single season record for receiving yards?

Has very little to do with it. Is Eric Dickerson even considered in the top five backs all time? I would put at least six above him.

Emmitt Smith
Barry Sanders
Adrian Peterson
Jim Brown
Walter Payton
Earl Campbell
OJ

[RayUF07]

Originally Posted by corpgator

I wasn't talking about Moss; it's Calvin Johnson. He has Moss's height, speed, and leap with more strength. He's also more disciplined with his routes, doesn't give up on plays, always goes all out and isn't a head case.

He's basically the best of both Rice and Moss. If he ever actually gets a great QB, he'll break all the records.

I know you were talking about Calvin....but he has one record, in an era where passers and receivers are allowed free reign.

A great QB? How many 5,000 yard passers did Rice ever have? Just goes to show, the difference in eras.

I'd agree, Calvin should be able to top some of Rice's records if he stays healthy and productive like Rice did late in his career. But don't toss around the QB and ignore the fact that Calvin is playing in the most prolific era ever for a WR...and for a losing team who can afford to just throw it to him every play late to pad stats.


I love Calvin, great player and wish he could've been a Buc...but he has a LONG way to catch Rice...but certainly has the potential.

[GATORAZ]

RayUF07 please stop with all the career stats you have eyes you know who the better player was. One guy was Cunnigham and Brad Johnson and Aron Brooks Andrew Walter Dante Culpepper throwing him the football the other has Young and Montana

Moss did have a great time with Brady though