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[diehardgator1]

This is one of the best explanation I have heard on obamas share the wealth


https://www.youtube.com/embed/rEM4NK...tailpage%3E%20.

[malligator]

To expand upon the 2nd question in the video...just imagine if there was a flat tax low enough the more people felt they could freely give to charity. Imagine if just half the people gave 10% of their income directly to charities. Just imagine how much more money would go directly to the truly needy. There is no doubt that Capitalism works better with moral, freely-given, well-used charity. The problem is once a person is giving 40% of their income to income taxes, FICA, sales taxes, excise taxes, sin taxes, etc how can they be expected to give more?

[gatorpa]

Originally Posted by malligator

To expand upon the 2nd question in the video...just imagine if there was a flat tax low enough the more people felt they could freely give to charity. Imagine if just half the people gave 10% of their income directly to charities. Just imagine how much more money would go directly to the truly needy. There is no doubt that Capitalism works better with moral, freely-given, well-used charity. The problem is once a person is giving 40% of their income to income taxes, FICA, sales taxes, excise taxes, sin taxes, etc how can they be expected to give more?

That is just the way the GOV wants it, take the cash handout as they like and create a group beholden to them. Then tell the dependents they are stuck in that lot because greedy people stole their money....Sound familar

[QGator2414]

Thanks for sharing. That was Fantastic!

[108]

"Obama's" share of the wealth

that's funny and myopic

all Presidents have shared the wealth, both downwards and upwards

and "Obamacare" was a conservative idea to achieve universal healthcare while keeping the private sector in-tact....if you guys were so damn beholden to a pretend "free-market", we could drastically reduce the cost of health care with Single Payer

[G8trGr8t]

He left out the part where 0 takes 35% of the sandwich to feed the horse

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by 108

"Obama's" share of the wealth

that's funny and myopic

all Presidents have shared the wealth, both downwards and upwards

and "Obamacare" was a conservative idea to achieve universal healthcare while keeping the private sector in-tact....if you guys were so damn beholden to a pretend "free-market", we could drastically reduce the cost of health care with Single Payer

Care to explain that statement?

[108]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

Care to explain that statement?

Government spending is currently around 25% of GDP, there is no area not covered

Please tell me you don't think it all goes to the poor

[malligator]

Originally Posted by 108

"Obama's" share of the wealth

that's funny and myopic

all Presidents have shared the wealth, both downwards and upwards

and "Obamacare" was a conservative idea to achieve universal healthcare while keeping the private sector in-tact....if you guys were so damn beholden to a pretend "free-market", we could drastically reduce the cost of health care with Single Payer

When Obamacare passed it was Obama's shining moment. His legacy. His masterpiece.

Now that it's rolling out and isn't looking so good it's the conservative's fault?

You can't make this stuff up.

[G8trGr8t]

Originally Posted by 108

"Obama's" share of the wealth

that's funny and myopic

all Presidents have shared the wealth, both downwards and upwards

and "Obamacare" was a conservative idea to achieve universal healthcare while keeping the private sector in-tact....if you guys were so damn beholden to a pretend "free-market", we could drastically reduce the cost of health care with Single Payer

really, are you serious

let me understand this, you think 0care is a conservative republican creation? really, you can't be serious...wow

now if you want to argue that 0's legacy will be a big gubmnt bill written by the healthcare special interests and blessed by the democratic party machine to push an ever increasing percentage of the GDP into healthcare I can understand that but no true conservatives were on board with this monstrosity

[fredsanford]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

Care to explain that statement?

22 of the last 30 years prior to Obama, it was the government's role to assist in the transfer of wealth from the lower and middle classes to the upper.

[MichiGator2002]

Originally Posted by fredsanford

22 of the last 30 years prior to Obama, it was the government's role to assist in the transfer of wealth from the lower and middle classes to the upper.

Thus ending even the thinnest possibility you understand what wealth even is, let alone how and why it ends up where it does. What wealth do you imagine... and I do mean imagine... was transferred? What was its origin and the mechanism of its transfer?

[108]

Originally Posted by malligator

When Obamacare passed it was Obama's shining moment. His legacy. His masterpiece.

Now that it's rolling out and isn't looking so good it's the conservative's fault?

You can't make this stuff up.

im not saying its conservatives fault, but nothing conservatives offered in the process would have helped to any meaningful degree

Single Payer is inevitable, but I know we will have to play this game for a while until everyone realizes it

im not making any conclusions yet though, as Romneycare seems to have stopped the growth of spending in Mass....and i do commend Obama for trying, given what he had to work with

hopefully it can be improved on, though I know conservatives will have no part in it

[diehardgator1]

Originally Posted by 108

im not saying its conservatives fault, but nothing conservatives offered in the process would have helped to any meaningful degree

Single Payer is inevitable, but I know we will have to play this game for a while until everyone realizes it

im not making any conclusions yet though, as Romneycare seems to have stopped the growth of spending in Mass....and i do commend Obama for trying, given what he had to work with

hopefully it can be improved on, though I know conservatives will have no part in it

The Rep offered 180 changes to obama care and the liberals would not bring the first one up for debate

[dudehead]

Originally Posted by G8trGr8t

really, are you serious

let me understand this, you think 0care is a conservative republican creation? really, you can't be serious...wow

now if you want to argue that 0's legacy will be a big gubmnt bill written by the healthcare special interests and blessed by the democratic party machine to push an ever increasing percentage of the GDP into healthcare I can understand that but no true conservatives were on board with this monstrosity

Two key elements of the ACA - the individual mandate and health care insurance exchanges - are policies that various Republican and conservative leaders have been proposing for health care reform over the last two decades.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by 108

Government spending is currently around 25% of GDP, there is no area not covered

Please tell me you don't think it all goes to the poor

Really?

[fredsanford]

Originally Posted by diehardgator1

The Rep offered 180 changes to obama care and the liberals would not bring the first one up for debate

When pubs made it clear they would not vote for it under any circumstances, why should they get a chance to make changes to it?

[108]

Originally Posted by diehardgator1

The Rep offered 180 changes to obama care and the liberals would not bring the first one up for debate

can you give some detail other then tort reform that was shown would only put a tiny dent in health care spending?

[gatorpa]

Originally Posted by 108

can you give some detail other then tort reform that was shown would only put a tiny dent in health care spending?

Please give examples where the Gov has made any industry, cheaper and more efficient.

[mocgator]

I posted this last month. It's a perfect analogy.