Sarah Palin, a main cog of the "stupid party", dismissed.

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by gator10010

What did you expect Palin to say to the McCain campaign? No?

Running for VP was not a dumb decision by Sarah Palin....maybe John McCain but not Sarah Palin.

No, I would say the primary fault is not hers. She obviously made no effort to become informed enough to speak intelligently about much at all.
But the primary fault lies with the McCain campaign for putting her there in the first place. I can't blame Fox for putting her on TV. It's just looking for ratings, not intelligent insight.

[exiledgator]

Originally Posted by tegator80

How about trying on this one: anyone who HAS a party and allows silly people in high position to remain is either really stupid or can't understand that they are enabling this behavior. How about stop worrying about the "other" party's incompetents and focus on cleaning up yours...or leave and never return and help start up another one.

But that requires discerning thought and we are just too busy for that kind of effort.

Great point, but judging by the amount of time spent here, there are many that aren't too busy for discerning thought. Must be something else.

[rajinGator]

Coming out of glass houses. There is no shortage on dopey Dems.

[fredsanford]

Originally Posted by rajinGator

Coming out of glass houses. There is no shortage on dopey Dems.

Again, not the issue.

The issue is how the GOP seems to consider their fools to be their leaders.

No Dem is clamoring for Corinne Brown to lead the party.

[secgator]

To this day...Clinton is revered and damn near worshipped by the cult group typically known as Democrats. Even after the definition of "is"...the cigar...the blue dress..not to mention all the other women he had....questionable relationships with.

No, the Dems don't hold their tainted heroes in high regard. They friggin worship them.

[northgagator]

Originally Posted by fredsanford

Because their constituents vote for them. Same reason a doorknob like McConnell can stay in office. There's a big diff between that and being held up as a shining star like the GOP does with their wackos.

Fred, Fred, Fred where did we go wrong.., Zager and Evens Back to the topic

Pelosi endorses Rangel WASHINGTON — So much for “draining the swamp” of corruption in Congress. Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who delivered the censure to Rep. Charles Rangel (D-Harlem) for 11 ethics violations two years ago, endorsed his re-election to a 22nd term yesterday.

http://m.nypost.com/p/news/national/...GiFy3lkZuG6ZXP Are you telling me that Pelosi is a Rangel constituent? Or that Pelosi was not holding up Rangle as a shining star? Which one is it?

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, who said she spoke with Mr. Jackson and his father Wednesday afternoon, praised the congressman for his service and “his eloquent advocacy for his constituents’ views and interests.” “As he works to address his health, our thoughts and prayers are with him, his wife, Sandi, his children as well as his parents,” said Mrs. Pelosi in a prepared statement. “We are grateful to him and his family for their long-standing record of public service to our country.”

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/20...ress/?page=all Are you telling me that Pelosi is a Rangel constituent? Or that Pelosi was not holding up Rangle as a shining star? Which one is it?

Maryland AFL-CIO leader calls Che Guevara, Cynthia McKinney heroes In a video posted at The Blaze Wednesday, Fred Mason, President of the AFL-CIO in Maryland and the District of Columbia, called former Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-GA) and Communist guerilla Che Guevara heroes. "Without a person like Cynthia McKinney, there would not have been a Barack Obama," he said while speaking at Baltimore's Union Baptist Church in late August. Big Labor shining up the McKennet star

http://www.examiner.com/article/mary...ckinney-heroes.

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by northgagator

Fred, Fred, Fred where did we go wrong.., Zager and Evens Back to the topic http://m.nypost.com/p/news/national/...GiFy3lkZuG6ZXP Are you telling me that Pelosi is a Rangel constituent? Or that Pelosi was not holding up Rangle as a shining star? Which one is it? http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/20...ress/?page=all Are you telling me that Pelosi is a Rangel constituent? Or that Pelosi was not holding up Rangle as a shining star? Which one is it? http://www.examiner.com/article/mary...ckinney-heroes.

I think endorsing is a bit different than placing on the Pres-VP ticket.

[secgator]

Originally Posted by rivergator

I think endorsing is a bit different than placing on the Pres-VP ticket.

river, while Palin may not be the smartest woman to walk the earth or even remotely qualified to be VP--she has nowhere near the baggage of someone like Rangel. Even you know that much. Being unqualified is far cry different than being corrupt.

[northgagator]

Originally Posted by rivergator

I think endorsing is a bit different than placing on the Pres-VP ticket.

Wrong example Fred. You got the cart before the horse.

Hardly anyone knew Sarah Palin before McCain picked her for the VP spot. She never had a chance to earn the high\false praise that was beeped on her.
As for the Pelosi endorsing Rangle, Rangle had quite a few years of questionable activity before that endorsement.

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by northgagator

Wrong example Fred. You got the cart before the horse.

Hardly anyone knew Sarah Palin before McCain picked her for the VP spot. She never had a chance to earn the high\false praise that was beeped on her.
As for the Pelosi endorsing Rangle, Rangle had quite a few years of questionable activity before that endorsement.

As I said, my point was about taking someone as ill-equipped as Palin and putting her at the forefront of the party. That obviously didn't happen with Rangel. So what are you trying to compare?

[JerseyGator01]

How many first-term governors would have done well in that situation who had never resided in DC? McCain, like he showed with the debates, showed poor planning by not picking her sooner to give her more prep time.

She's not dumber nor smarter, unless you believe in sound bytes, than the average politician in DC. I love how the CNN headline labels losing a job as a contributor as a "fall." Media hype at its finest.

She's way too much of an independent thinker to be a puppet in America's extremely corrupt media. She's one of the few politicians I know who has long had enemies in both parties because of stands she has taken.

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by JerseyGator01

How many first-term governors would have done well in that situation who had never resided in DC? McCain, like he showed with the debates, showed poor planning by not picking her sooner to give her more prep time.

She's not dumber nor smarter, unless you believe in sound bytes, than the average politician in DC. I love how the CNN headline labels losing a job as a contributor as a "fall." Media hype at its finest.

She's way too much of an independent thinker to be a puppet in America's extremely corrupt media. She's one of the few politicians I know who has long had enemies in both parties because of stands she has taken.

what stands are those?

[JerseyGator01]

Her pro-life stand for one, which is 90% of why she is hated. She also ticked off the then governor (same family as current senator) Murkowski.

From her Wiki page regarding her work prior to being Governor:

Governor Murkowski offered other jobs to Palin, and in February 2003, she accepted an appointment to the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which oversees Alaska's oil and gas fields for safety and efficiency.[67] While she had little background in the area, she said she wanted to learn more about the oil industry, and was named chair of the commission and ethics supervisor.[1][67][69] By November 2003 she was filing non-public ethics complaints with the state attorney general and the governor against a fellow commission member, Randy Ruedrich, a former petroleum engineer and at the time the chair of the state Republican Party.[67] He was forced to resign in November 2003.[67] Palin resigned in January 2004 and put her protests against Ruedrich's "lack of ethics" into the public arena[19][67] by filing a public complaint against Ruedrich,[70] who was then fined $12,000. She also joined with Democratic legislator Eric Croft[71] in complaining that Gregg Renkes, then the attorney general of Alaska,[72] had a financial conflict of interest in negotiating a coal exporting trade agreement.[73][74] Renkes also resigned his post.[19][69]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

I don't know of one politician in Jersey on ANY level who had a career more than a few months who went against her party establishment like she did. Another reason why the puppets in the media hate her. She didn't play the game.

[rivergator]

I don't know that being anti-abortion makes her particularly unique in the Republican Party.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Oh yeah I thought this was the thing that people on the left don't do to females on the other side of the aisle.

[DeanMeadGator]

Originally Posted by fredsanford

Looks like Fox is casting off the dumbest of the dumb or the most corrupt: Palin, Morris and Rove.

Kindly specify the corruption that the 3 engaged and/or conspired to engage in. Please identify those who are dumb so we can determine whether the 3 are the dumbest of that group.

Once againg, I am amazed how much time and energy people spend talking about Fox News despite their intense dislike of it.

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

Oh yeah I thought this was the thing that people on the left don't do to females on the other side of the aisle.

I assume you're talking about the Hillary sexiest thread where I started that particular train of thought with:

Are there any prominent Democratic women who aren't attacked for their looks by Republicans? Nancy Pelosi is about to turn 72 and conservatives are constantly attacking her looks.
It's what they do.

Read more: http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas...#ixzz2JJL1SK9P

Is that what this thread is, nothing but criticizing Palin's looks?

[JerseyGator01]

Palin had a downs syndrome child that made her talk equal her walk ... yet again.

[JerseyGator01]

Can anyone else name one politician who has the head of her state's party and an attorney general or similar high ranking state official resign because of their work. Plus she defeated Murkowski in the gov primary and a former Dem gov in the general.

Has anyone ticked off so many elites in such a short period of time? I can't think of anyone in our so-called age of hyper-partisanship.

[DeanMeadGator]

Originally Posted by rivergator

No, I would say the primary fault is not hers. She obviously made no effort to become informed enough to speak intelligently about much at all.
But the primary fault lies with the McCain campaign for putting her there in the first place. I can't blame Fox for putting her on TV. It's just looking for ratings, not intelligent insight.

Television networks all look for ratings. Do advertisers prefer to run their advertisements on shows that draw small audiences or large audiencies?

Please advise what network provides intelligent insight and discourse. What about Honey Boo Boo?

For that matter, what politicians engage in intellingent discourse and possess intelligent insight? Is that not more of a problem than a television network and the programs it airs?

What television network has a $16 trillion debt? Is there any intelligent discourse among politicians about reduction of the suffocating and ever increasing deficit? Is that more or less important than what a network broadcasts?