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Old 01-26-2013, 05:40 PM   #41
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And the advantage is a stronger economy and more wealth. The jobs you mentioned may be lost, but more open up. I hate to say it, but tough shit if you are in an obsolete area of the economy. Adapt or move. Protecting jobs where you do not have the comparative advantage hurts the nation dramatically. In fact you probably lose more jobs that way (bc they aren't created), but that isn't a nice sob story on CNN.

But in a round about way you hit the nail on the head. Americans want an upper middle class lifestyle regardless of their productivity. We need a realization that if you aren't productive and are poor then you need to live a poor lifestyle
I don't really think protecting jobs is the way to go nor have I ever been a proponent of this. One of the main reasons is I just don't think it works in the long run. However the loss of jobs can have a dire affect on the whole nation if it is in a large enough quantity and there are not jobs enough to take their place. It really matters little how much education you have if there is no market for your skills or the market is over saturated.

One of the most important driving forces behind a vibrant economy, in my opinion, is a strong work force. People with money to spend create demand for products. When they earn this money they are not a burden on society but rather a benefit. Once again I am not convinced an education in and of itself is any guarantee of a job. I am also far from convinced all people are cut out for higher education.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:18 PM   #42
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There needs to be better education steering people in the right direction to industries that are starving for good people and they are out there.
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I don't really think protecting jobs is the way to go nor have I ever been a proponent of this. One of the main reasons is I just don't think it works in the long run. However the loss of jobs can have a dire affect on the whole nation if it is in a large enough quantity and there are not jobs enough to take their place. It really matters little how much education you have if there is no market for your skills or the market is over saturated.

One of the most important driving forces behind a vibrant economy, in my opinion, is a strong work force. People with money to spend create demand for products. When they earn this money they are not a burden on society but rather a benefit. Once again I am not convinced an education in and of itself is any guarantee of a job. I am also far from convinced all people are cut out for higher education.
Good post.

I agree with much of this. What are your thoughts on the "work force"?

There is a whole lot of supply out there but I was extremely disappointed in the options wrt our one hire since we started our business (we started with 6 full time and one part time employee and had to replace one person since2008). We ended up getting a great employee who was not even applying for the job as they were still going to school for the credentials (we ended up paying for the necessary certificates and had flexibility with another employee to make it work until they were able to do everything) but shadowing in our office.

I know people do not like the word "entitlement" but that is the word that comes to mind with a good portion of the work force in that I think people feel entitled to certain positions whether it is because of education achieved or just because we have created that sense in this country IMO.
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Old 01-26-2013, 09:25 PM   #44
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108, your graph obviously proves that the evil pubs are at fault and especially Bush, since we know they have been in total charge since 1979!!!!
Except per 108's graph the biggest jump for the 1% was during the Clintion years!
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Let me get this straight... We go out and print a whole bunch of money. Then, those in charge can't figure out why inflation is running away and all they can come up with is to complain that wages aren't keeping up?

Whose running this show? The three stooges?
How long you been waiting to use that one!
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Two of the top 3 cities with the greatest income disparity are Boston and DC, bastions of liberalism. Enough said.
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We are in 2013 BTW why does the chart stop in 2009? Curious as to what has happened under the current admin.( if the up trend continued)
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Two of the top 3 cities with the greatest income disparity are Boston and DC, bastions of liberalism. Enough said.
You usually have pretty good backup for what you post, but I took a quick look online and saw this:

http://www.usnews.com/news/best-citi...-inequality/14

Neither of those cities is even in the top 15, where did you get your info?
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Good post.

I agree with much of this. What are your thoughts on the "work force"?

There is a whole lot of supply out there but I was extremely disappointed in the options wrt our one hire since we started our business (we started with 6 full time and one part time employee and had to replace one person since2008). We ended up getting a great employee who was not even applying for the job as they were still going to school for the credentials (we ended up paying for the necessary certificates and had flexibility with another employee to make it work until they were able to do everything) but shadowing in our office.

I know people do not like the word "entitlement" but that is the word that comes to mind with a good portion of the work force in that I think people feel entitled to certain positions whether it is because of education achieved or just because we have created that sense in this country IMO.

I'm not exactly sure what your question is. I'm not ignoring it.
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108 is the king of class envy/warfare on too hot

what he fails to understand is there are a group of people out there who are willing to do what ever is necessary to get and maintain a certain lifestyle- my wife and I worked 2 jobs for years to save enough to start our own business- we lived a meager lifestyle so we could get to where we wanted to be- we used our education and our work ethic to our advantage
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I'm not exactly sure what your question is. I'm not ignoring it.
I was looking for your thoughts on the "work force". I agree we need a strong Work force but it feels like the work force is volume based rather than quality based at this time.

I was curious is you agreed?

Unfortunately I think we have done a huge disservice to many in not preparing them to use their skills in a productive way. The you need to go to college mentality.
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I was looking for your thoughts on the "work force". I agree we need a strong Work force but it feels like the work force is volume based rather than quality based at this time.

I was curious is you agreed?

Unfortunately I think we have done a huge disservice to many in not preparing them to use their skills in a productive way. The you need to go to college mentality.
Yes, I would agree with it and it hits at the heart of one of our bigger problems. gatorman also bring this up and it is an issue that could grow larger if we don't figure our a way to address it. Simply have an available pool of workers doesn't mean these workers fit the needs of the job market.
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And the advantage is a stronger economy and more wealth. The jobs you mentioned may be lost, but more open up. I hate to say it, but tough shit if you are in an obsolete area of the economy. Adapt or move. Protecting jobs where you do not have the comparative advantage hurts the nation dramatically. In fact you probably lose more jobs that way (bc they aren't created), but that isn't a nice sob story on CNN.

But in a round about way you hit the nail on the head. Americans want an upper middle class lifestyle regardless of their productivity. We need a realization that if you aren't productive and are poor then you need to live a poor lifestyle
I don't totally disagree with this post: there will certainly be casualties in a shifting job market, however I thought I'd point out that the 'move' part of 'adapt or move' has been quite difficult in recent times. In areas hit hardest w/ job loss even responsible homeowners find it hard to move as they watch their home equity disappear.

This is just one of the side/multiplying effects of having a crash driven by real estate plummeting: we do not have a mobile workforce.
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of course--the other HUGE driver of these lower wages was MASSIVE influx of moslty unskilled labor from S of the border. This ensured little labor pressure on employers and decreased wages throughout unskilled labor market.

The only solution is education.
That does NOT have to be a 4 year school---education can be industrial welding, underwater construction, electrician, wind turbine repair, high end machining, etc etc--then when entire labor force is more educated, can manufacture and produce more goods that have more added value----while low value production is outsourced.

If you cant learn the skills of 21st century labor force or are to lazy, or smoke too much dope, or had 7 kids and have no time now-----dont say i didnt tell you WHY you are poor.

The idea that society should subsidize activity that does not benefit great society is a path to poverty for all. SO do invest in re-training---but limit benefits for having kids and smoking dope at home.
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