Why is there anger when people leave a state for tax reasons???

[wargunfan]

Mikelson is merely the canary in the coal mine. For every one who speaks out there are thousands leaving California for greener pastures. By the time the politicians in Cali realize what has happened it will be a giant bankrupt barrio. There is a tipping point wherein the negatives outweigh the positives. California, if it continues to drive away productive businesses and individuals, is well on the way there.

[QGator2414]

Originally Posted by 108

since we are using those terms, one could easily say he is being "greedy"

but that sounds ridiculous right

you guys and your platitudes

Who is greedy?

Government? Individual? Etc?

[secgator]

Originally Posted by QGator2414

Who is greedy?

Government? Individual? Etc?

You are asking one of the most liberal posters in here if it's the GOVT or individual who is greedy???

C'mon Q....you already know what kind of answer you'd get.

The govt? Greedy? In the opinion of a 'critical thinker'????

[108]

Originally Posted by QGator2414

Who is greedy?

Government? Individual? Etc?

i didn't say he was greedy, i said since we are throwing around empty words like envy, with no proof of it, he could easily be called that by some

personally i could give a chit what he does, but it was a dumb move on his part to state his views publicly, given much of his income indirectly comes from folks who make much much less, as he said

i haven't seen yet how this relates to liberals other than conservatives trying to tie it in

[108]

this notion that liberals are envious is the epitome of low effort thinking

just because one speaks out against the inherent inequality of a rigged system, doesn't mean they are envious of success

amassing lots of wealth is not on the top of my totem pole, and even if it were, i would not be envious of others for their individual ability to create wealth

[DieAGator]

Who is angry? Is it implied anger from beneficiaries of the confiscation or politicians who would allocate another's?

[gator10010]

Originally Posted by 108

just because one speaks out against the inherent inequality of a rigged system, doesn't mean they are envious of success

Just because one speaks out honestly about his personal tax rate does not make him stupid.

Everyone claims to be tired of people being "politically correct". Here we have a golfer who says openly and honestly, "I'm leaving Cali because the taxes are unbearable " and this makes people mad why?

[gatorman_07732]

Liberals believe they are entittled to your money

[g8orbill]

Originally Posted by gator10010

Just because one speaks out honestly about his personal tax rate does not make him stupid.

Everyone claims to be tired of people being "politically correct". Here we have a golfer who says openly and honestly, "I'm leaving Cali because the taxes are unbearable " and this makes people mad why?

because he is rich and they aren't

makes little difference if he worked hard and used his talents to get ahead

[MichiGator2002]

Originally Posted by g8orbill

because he is rich and they aren't

makes little difference if he worked hard and used his talents to get ahead

Pathetic that they can't be arsed even to think "because he can golf and I can't", because the common rationalization is "well, I could have been as good as him, if I had just done the work", as if 'doing the work' was just a trite formality.

[QGator2414]

Originally Posted by 108

i didn't say he was greedy, i said since we are throwing around empty words like envy, with no proof of it, he could easily be called that by some

personally i could give a chit what he does, but it was a dumb move on his part to state his views publicly, given much of his income indirectly comes from folks who make much much less, as he said

i haven't seen yet how this relates to liberals other than conservatives trying to tie it in

And why is it dumb?

Because people are...wait for it...Envious.

Otherwise they would not care that he said it...

But hey I get people are blinded by their envy.

[QGator2414]

Originally Posted by 108

this notion that liberals are envious is the epitome of low effort thinking

just because one speaks out against the inherent inequality of a rigged system, doesn't mean they are envious of success

amassing lots of wealth is not on the top of my totem pole, and even if it were, i would not be envious of others for their individual ability to create wealth

I need to learn more about this "rigged system". Then maybe I can make millions playing golf...or at least provide the tips to my kids...

[108]

Originally Posted by gator10010

Just because one speaks out honestly about his personal tax rate does not make him stupid.

Everyone claims to be tired of people being "politically correct". Here we have a golfer who says openly and honestly, "I'm leaving Cali because the taxes are unbearable " and this makes people mad why?

i said his actions were stupid from a PR perspective, where your public image is the most important aspect when it comes to sponsorships, advertisements, etc

[QGator2414]

Originally Posted by secgator

You are asking one of the most liberal posters in here if it's the GOVT or individual who is greedy???

C'mon Q....you already know what kind of answer you'd get.

The govt? Greedy? In the opinion of a 'critical thinker'????

Yep. And a few posts down we learn about the "rigged system"...

[108]

is anyone going to attempt to even show how "liberals" were the reason Mickelson issued an apology, or is this circle jerk gonna go on without proving causation?

"hey, Phil issued an apology about taxes, it must be liberals fault"

[QGator2414]

Originally Posted by 108

is anyone going to attempt to even show how "liberals" were the reason Mickelson issued an apology, or is this circle jerk gonna go on without proving causation?

"hey, Phil issued an apology about taxes, it must be liberals fault"

Envy is not just a liberal issue. Though liberals have more severe cases of it and tend to struggle with it more than others IMO...

[108]

Originally Posted by QGator2414

Envy is not just a liberal issue. Though liberals have more severe cases of it and tend to struggle with it more than others IMO...

i tend to find people project their own issues

wealth accumulation seems much more of a conservative obsession than a liberal one

hence why taxes are such a big issue for them

i never think about my taxes...it's just like rent to me

sure I wouldn't complain if they were lowered, or I was able to put it towards areas I agree with, but much of it is out of my control, and its not something i spend precious time on

[g8trjax]

For all the Phil haters, oops. http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwo...t-about-taxes/

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by 108

i tend to find people project their own issues

wealth accumulation seems much more of a conservative obsession than a liberal one

hence why taxes are such a big issue for them

i never think about my taxes...it's just like rent to me

sure I wouldn't complain if they were lowered, or I was able to put it towards areas I agree with, but much of it is out of my control, and its not something i spend precious time on

Don't fool yourself there are a ton of rich liberals. that are extremely greedy. Warren Buffett for example refuses to pay his fair share.

[108]

Originally Posted by g8trjax

For all the Phil haters, oops. http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwo...t-about-taxes/

the issue isn't him moving, he could have done that with no fan fair like Tiger did back then