01-23-2013, 08:41 PM
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Why is there anger when people leave a state for tax reasons???
Or at least boldly state their plans to leave a state because the taxes are terrible?
Phil Mickelson is tonight apologizing for making it clear that he plans to leave California for Texas in order to relieve himself of California's awful taxes.
The debate isn't whether California's taxes are in fact worse than those of Texas. People are acting as if Mickelson owes it to everybody to incur California's smothering taxes? Why? Is this really how deep seeded the fairness doctrine has become? That you have to check the political-correctness of anything you do with your money? Does it really need to be stated that just because it seems "fair" it doesn't mean it will work?
No wonder the few people I know who are wealthy keep quiet about it.
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01-23-2013, 08:53 PM
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Envy!
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01-23-2013, 09:05 PM
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do what you want, but a millionaire shouldn't expect to get any love by being vocal about it
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01-23-2013, 09:10 PM
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only because of envy on y'alls part
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01-23-2013, 09:12 PM
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All you folks who said he was whining and that he was a p..sy, now you can call him that for apologizing
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01-23-2013, 09:17 PM
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I doubt there would be any anger if he just did it, instead of talking about in public or in the media.
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01-23-2013, 09:23 PM
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I could care less what any athletes, Hollywood types, stars, etc... say or believe but when they say something stand behind it or shut the hell up to begin with
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01-23-2013, 09:23 PM
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I fail to see why it should bother anyone if someone famous speaks up about the punitive tax code- you libs seem to have no problem when some rich hollywood type speaks up about the environment or other liberal causes-tells me that class envy is alive and well on too hot
and 108 in my not so humble opinion-you sir are leading the pack
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01-23-2013, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by g8orbill
only because of envy on y'alls part
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who is "y'all" here? I don't see it saying "liberals"
some people don't want to hear about a millionaire athlete bitching about his taxes being too high, especially when most of the people who pay for their inflated salaries indirectly, don't have the option of just moving out of a state whenever they'd like
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01-23-2013, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by g8orbill
I fail to see why it should bother anyone if someone famous speaks up about the punitive tax code- you libs seem to have no problem when some rich hollywood type speaks up about the environment or other liberal causes-tells me that class envy is alive and well on too hot
and 108 in my not so humble opinion-you sir are leading the pack
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Yeah it probably doesnt bother you when people publically make statements you agree with. In turn, I doubt you are applauding Hollywood types when they speak about something in public. I mean, there's a whole conservative cottage industry in getting pissed off about it:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood
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01-23-2013, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 108
do what you want, but a millionaire shouldn't expect to get any love by being vocal about it
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Being vocal about it does however possibly give a nice visual aid for how the increase is in his case going to cost CA money. I mean, when a kid burns himself on a stove, we don't apologize for pointing out it was the stove that was hot and not some unknown, unidentifiable mystery.
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01-23-2013, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 108
who is "y'all" here? I don't see it saying "liberals"
some people don't want to hear about a millionaire athlete bitching about his taxes being too high, especially when most of the people who pay for their inflated salaries indirectly, don't have the option of just moving out of a state whenever they'd like
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you are a liberal based solely on what you post
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01-23-2013, 09:51 PM
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So the rich really do relocate if they are taxed too much .....well I'll be....who would have ever thought?
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01-23-2013, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by g8orbill
I fail to see why it should bother anyone if someone famous speaks up about the punitive tax code- you libs seem to have no problem when some rich hollywood type speaks up about the environment or other liberal causes-tells me that class envy is alive and well on too hot
and 108 in my not so humble opinion-you sir are leading the pack
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personally i could give a chit what Mickelson feels, but if you are asking why, then im giving you the answer
in my not so humble opinion, this "envy" accusation is often used when one doesn't want, or can't use critical thinking
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01-23-2013, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by g8orbill
you are a liberal based solely on what you post
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this story isn't about me Bill, i'm just responding to the question asked
you have no idea who personally made a stink, or what their political affiliation is
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01-23-2013, 09:58 PM
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108-my comments are strictly about those on this board who have had a conniption fit
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01-23-2013, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wgbgator
I doubt there would be any anger if he just did it, instead of talking about in public or in the media.
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I agree. It is the sad reality of envy.
Yet I think it is important to inform people of reality...
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01-23-2013, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by g8orbill
108-my comments are strictly about those on this board who have had a conniption fit
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im guessing you think this is part of that
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do what you want, but a millionaire shouldn't expect to get any love by being vocal about it
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01-23-2013, 11:00 PM
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He apologized because:
A- he sponsors products and his clients don't want him dipping in political waters.
B- because as he eloquently said today, many of his fans who can't find work or are underemployed living paycheck to paycheck and he doesn't want to alienate them.
If you are going to do it then just do it, but avoid the public political displays of anger.
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01-23-2013, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by QGator2414
I agree. It is the sad reality of envy.
Yet I think it is important to inform people of reality...
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since we are using those terms, one could easily say he is being "greedy"
but that sounds ridiculous right
you guys and your platitudes
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